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That Garrett told him that the entire playbook was open for Johnson. If so, why? This thing needs to be dumbed down to what Johnson does best. Even if that's done, he needs to put our guys in position to run after the catch. We saw too many balls thrown behind the receivers. We saw balls where guys made catches that took them out of position to do anything with it. Johnson has to be more accurate. No more throwing deep down field. No more throws to the sidelines. Please, Garrett, take that draw play from the shotgun out of the playbook. It drives me insane.
 

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Could this have been a product of Romo and Johnson splitting time at quarterback?

BJ needed all the reps he could get.
 

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Brad as a Vet, 40 years old here two years can handle the playbook, he just can't physically execute it. Two different discussions.
 

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Garrett isn't playcalling to Brad johnsons strengths, hes playcalling to Romos strengths. Which usually leads to incomplete passes or interceptions.
 

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BlueStar22;2356909 said:
That Garrett told him that the entire playbook was open for Johnson. If so, why? This thing needs to be dumbed down to what Johnson does best. Even if that's done, he needs to put our guys in position to run after the catch. We saw too many balls thrown behind the receivers. We saw balls where guys made catches that took them out of position to do anything with it. Johnson has to be more accurate. No more throwing deep down field. No more throws to the sidelines. Please, Garrett, take that draw play from the shotgun out of the playbook. It drives me insane.

This is a good post. Except for screens and go routes, they shouldn't have any routes with receivers outside the numbers--he doesn't have the arm strength to put enough zip on the ball. They need to give up any 17-30 yard passes that require zip on the ball. That leaves basically a limited west-coast offense.

Johnson can loft the ball 45-50 yards down the field (probably half the guys reading this board can do that--it doesn't require a lot of arm strength). The problem is that safeties can out-run those lofted passes.

Johnson needs to be more accurate or be cut. Having a pathetically weak arm, being immobile, and horribly inaccurate ain't a recipe for success. My guess is that they will average 13-17 points a game until Romo returns.
 

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bpfred;2357756 said:
This is a good post. Except for screens and go routes, they shouldn't have any routes with receivers outside the numbers--he doesn't have the arm strength to put enough zip on the ball. They need to give up any 17-30 yard passes that require zip on the ball. That leaves basically a limited west-coast offense.

Johnson can loft the ball 45-50 yards down the field (probably half the guys reading this board can do that--it doesn't require a lot of arm strength). The problem is that safeties can out-run those lofted passes.

Johnson needs to be more accurate or be cut. Having a pathetically weak arm, being immobile, and horribly inaccurate ain't a recipe for success. My guess is that they will average 13-17 points a game until Romo returns.

With this defense, that is not enough points.

I said the day Romo got hurt we would not win a single game with Brad and I still think that.
 

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Nors;2357080 said:
Brad as a Vet, 40 years old here two years can handle the playbook, he just can't physically execute it. Two different discussions.

:hammer:
 

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Uhm, don't you think the opposing defensive coordinators are smart enough to know what Brad Johnson's weaknesses are, and will defend the short stuff?
 

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BlueStar22;2356909 said:
That Garrett told him that the entire playbook was open for Johnson. If so, why? This thing needs to be dumbed down to what Johnson does best. Even if that's done, he needs to put our guys in position to run after the catch. We saw too many balls thrown behind the receivers. We saw balls where guys made catches that took them out of position to do anything with it. Johnson has to be more accurate. No more throwing deep down field. No more throws to the sidelines. Please, Garrett, take that draw play from the shotgun out of the playbook. It drives me insane.

I have watched Johnson for many of yrs here in Minnesota and the guy has no arm strength at all...And as far as a touch pass he needs more time then what he had for that...To me Johnson is a Bledsoe with a weak arm...He needs to retire and the Cowboys need a better Backup Qb...IMO
 

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Johnson is a vet, and he's not new to the Cowboys this year. Of course the playbook was 100% open to him mentally....he knows it.

However, he can't actually run more than about 70% of it, I'm guessing. He doesn't have the arm for the deep out patterns, and he doesn't have the mobility to run the plays designed to roll QB out on bootlegs or to move the pocket much.

There's a big difference between knowing the whole playbook and being able to execute the whole playbook. Not many backup QB's are going to be able to run all the plays the starter does, not even if they know them.
 

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boyz04;2358005 said:
I have watched Johnson for many of yrs here in Minnesota and the guy has no arm strength at all...And as far as a touch pass he needs more time then what he had for that...To me Johnson is a Bledsoe with a weak arm...He needs to retire and the Cowboys need a better Backup Qb...IMO

I agree that it's time, but he has been a great backup in the past. Remember, Tony hasn't been starting very long...he needed security and a calm veteran voice and friend on the sideline during games, not a guy who was trying to take his job...Johnson provided that.

Now Tony needs a better backup...maybe one who does want his job.
 
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