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rockj7

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What Michael Irvin did to Randy Moss and make us afraid of drafting a potential Super Star
 

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We need to just stay away from players with substance abuse problems regardless of their talent. If you're stupid enough to hurt your draft spot in college by getting high, chances are you will be stupid enough in the pros as well.
 

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It seems like these red-flag guys have a very high rate of screwing up with the team that drafted them. They spend their whole rookie contract getting it together or getting out of the league. Why take the chance anymore?
 

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Are you insinuating that the Cowboys didn't draft Moss because Irvin made them afraid to? That's so far off base it's impossible to qualify.
 

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Are you insinuating that the Cowboys didn't draft Moss because Irvin made them afraid to? That's so far off base it's impossible to qualify.

Michael Irvin believes it. He even apologized to Moss for it.
 

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Are you insinuating that the Cowboys didn't draft Moss because Irvin made them afraid to? That's so far off base it's impossible to qualify.

Jerry clearly passed on Moss due to all of the problems going on at that time and yes Irvin was clearly one of the issues. Jerry went with the safe and clean pick, he knew all along that Moss would be a superstar.
 

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I can absolutely guarantee Jerry would pick Irvin every year if he had a chance.

Moss didn't get drafted because of his own huge red flags. Which is why numerous teams passed on him.
 

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I can absolutely guarantee Jerry would pick Irvin every year if he had a chance.

Moss didn't get drafted because of his own huge red flags. Which is why numerous teams passed on him.

I don't think OP is arguing this point with you. Besides, Irvin was drafted by Landry/Schramm.
 

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I don't think OP is arguing this point with you. Besides, Irvin was drafted by Landry/Schramm.

If one could agree Jerry would take Irvin every year, then saying Irvib scared him away from taking Miss would make no sense. If anything, Moss scared Jerry away from taking Moss. Ramsey Moss had, at that point, a historic amount of baggage.

I just find it ridiculous that the guy who took Gregory, signed Hardy and wanted Manziel (and that's just the last two years) would shy away from Moss due to Irvin. It doesn't make any sense or fit his character or extensive history.
 

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If one could agree Jerry would take Irvin every year, then saying Irvib scared him away from taking Miss would make no sense. If anything, Moss scared Jerry away from taking Moss. Ramsey Moss had, at that point, a historic amount of baggage.

I just find it ridiculous that the guy who took Gregory, signed Hardy and wanted Manziel (and that's just the last two years) would shy away from Moss due to Irvin. It doesn't make any sense or fit his character or extensive history.

But Jerry has never made sense.
 

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We need to just stay away from players with substance abuse problems regardless of their talent. If you're stupid enough to hurt your draft spot in college by getting high, chances are you will be stupid enough in the pros as well.

AMEN!!!!!!!!! Character matters.
 
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