Diet Help Needed

[TheSport78]

The guy is talking about weight loss, not "health".

Those that are arguing lean meat over fatty meat, it absolutely does not matter what you eat in the context of weight gain, if the calories are kept the same. Consumption of fat does not mean, your body will gain fat, just like consumption of muscle from a bird, will not cause one to gain muscle. It's amazing how much common sense is thrown out the door when it concerns food.

The arguments against a 'fatty' diet are actually rooted in issues of 'health' ( ogus or not), not weight gain.

Certain diets can cause deficiencies in nutrients. This may, possibly, cause an urge within to demand a particular food that possesses that nutrient, based upon knowledge of past experience, causing the eating of more calories, but....

The weight gain is because of the extra calories taken in, not because one is eating protein, as opposed to a carb or vice verse.

Again, one can simply google the "Twinkie Diet", as one of many evidences about this point.

What good is temporary weight loss if it's not a lifestyle change? Sure, you can "lose weight" on the "Twinkie Diet" for example, but watch how fast you become a diabetic and develop other problems such as heart disease and cancer.

 

[rickjameschinaclub]

What good is temporary weight loss if it's not a lifestyle change? Sure, you can "lose weight" on the "Twinkie Diet" for example, but watch how fast you become a diabetic and develop other problems such as heart disease and cancer.

And the ironic thing about the "Twinkie Diet" is that all the markers of the professor who demonstrated it improved.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

Haub was monitoring his markers everyday, and they continually imrpvoed despite the fact, he was previously eating what many construe as a healthy diet.

To quote once again,

"It's a great reminder for weight loss that calories count," she said. "Is that the bottom line to being healthy? That's another story."

Nobody really knows, but to claim that their is a metabolic advantage to certain types of nutrients causing one to lose weight is simply hogwash. It's really all about the calories.

 

[TheSport78]

And the ironic thing about the "Twinkie Diet" is that all the markers of the professor who demonstrated it improved.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

Haub was monitoring his markers everyday, and they continually imrpvoed despite the fact, he was previously eating what many construe as a healthy diet.

To quote once again,



Nobody really knows, but to claim that their is a metabolic advantage to certain types of nutrients causing one to lose weight is simply hogwash. It's really all about the calories.

We can agree to disagree on your last paragraph.

 

[Stryker44]

Yup. Since last September I have gone from 376 (maybe more) down to 230 doing just that. I still eat the things I like, I just keep track of how much. And lots of exercise.

Still 40-50 lbs. to go I think.

You lost 140 lbs in 4 months?

 

[vlad]

With all the advice that has been given I think you just need to clarify you goal:

Is it losing weight or living healthy?

As an example:

If its losing weight as somone pointed out you can still take a can of soda, etc just as long as your in a calorie deficit.

If its living healthy - cut out the soft drinks, wake up with a good attitude, cut out red meat, eat fish like salmon instead, and just condition yourself to not eat processed/boxed foods, don't take stuff like the Dallas Cowboys so seriously, sleep with regular patterns, don't stare at a monitor all day, etc.

good luck!

 

[vlad]

What good is temporary weight loss if it's not a lifestyle change? Sure, you can "lose weight" on the "Twinkie Diet" for example, but watch how fast you become a diabetic and develop other problems such as heart disease and cancer.

This.

I don't think losing weight should ever be the goal. Getting healthy should be the goal.

 

[Kevinicus]

You lost 140 lbs in 4 months?

Sept. 2011

 

[TheSport78]

This.

I don't think losing weight should ever be the goal. Getting healthy should be the goal.

 

[Stryker44]

Sept. 2011

Was going to say that was nuts...still though...great job!

 

[CATCH17]

With all the advice that has been given I think you just need to clarify you goal:

Is it losing weight or living healthy?

As an example:

If its losing weight as somone pointed out you can still take a can of soda, etc just as long as your in a calorie deficit.

If its living healthy - cut out the soft drinks, wake up with a good attitude, cut out red meat, eat fish like salmon instead, and just condition yourself to not eat processed/boxed foods, don't take stuff like the Dallas Cowboys so seriously, sleep with regular patterns, don't stare at a monitor all day, etc.

good luck!

Thing is nobody can stay perfect all of the time so the way I explained how to diet is usually what people do anyways.

It's the consistency of it all that makes a difference and there is no way you can cut out everything that isn't "clean".


Just eat the best you can daily within a calorie deficit and take a Multi vitamin and you'll be good to go.

 

[Kevinicus]

Was going to say that was nuts...still though...great job!

Thanks. Still working on it though.

But I went from this:

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- Jan 2010 playoff game.

And this:

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-On the left (November 2010).

To this:

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- Not the best Picture (except for the obvious eye candy).

And this:

http://i110.***BLOCKED***/albums/n114/ChldsPlay/2013-01-25-13-48-05_zpscd013dd2.png
- The hoodie is a size Large, compared to the 5XL's I was wearing.

 

[basstapp]

Look into Paleo - I was 290 LBS and dropped to 230 in 4 months. It limits the food groups you can eat, but you can eat as much as you want of the food groups they allow. Its pretty much a caveman diet. Meat, Nuts, Fruit Vegetables and Eggs.

 

[TheCowboy]

Wow congrats Chldsplay! Definitely a good inspiration.

 

[Stryker44]

Thanks. Still working on it though.

But I went from this:

http://i110.***BLOCKED***/albums/n114/ChldsPlay/facebook_1615393162_zps09bfcb2b.jpg
- Jan 2010 playoff game.

And this:

http://i110.***BLOCKED***/albums/n114/ChldsPlay/kevinbig.jpg
-On the left (November 2010).

To this:

http://i110.***BLOCKED***/albums/n114/ChldsPlay/P1000275_zpsef7d8ac0.jpg
- Not the best Picture (except for the obvious eye candy).

And this:

http://i110.***BLOCKED***/albums/n114/ChldsPlay/2013-01-25-13-48-05_zpscd013dd2.png
- The hoodie is a size Large, compared to the 5XL's I was wearing.

That is ballin dude. Keep up the great work! I have about 40-50 I want to still lose myself.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I will first discuss the embarrassing truth. I am fat and need to diet lol. I am 17 years old, just got done with my football career and I am left with this 6' 300 lb body. Now it's not all fat, I have big arms and huge calves from 4 years of lifting, but the gut and the love handles really bother me. Plus hopefully it will give me more energy going into college.

I want to shed body fat, but I am worried if I lose weight I will also lose some of my strength and muscle. I will be honest and come up front that I know nothing about dieting. I don't eat junk food, but I am the type of man that will eat a lot of whatever you put in front of me. My current diet consists of lots of red meat.

Exercising isn't an issue. I work out 3 times a week, a lot more focused on lifting though. The food part is an issue.

For breakfast it is always cereal. Oatmeal squares, cinnamon squares, ect. Lunch's main food is a sandwich (PB&J, Ham, Turkey, Salami), some fruit and maybe crackers. Dinner is a variety of foods that really isn't a consistent plan.

Is there a specific plan you guys have done in the past to lose weight, or are currently on? What is the best way to lose weight? Cheerios in the morning, with whey protein shake as the milk? Don't take shakes? no sandwich at lunch? No snacks? No soda, just water? What's your plan?

Thank you for your help!

I struggle with a weight issue myself.


Now, dont laugh.

I bought nutribullet.

http://www.nutribullet.com/

Now, I dont eat a "solid" meal for dinner. I cram fruits and greens and nuts into the bullet and it fills me up. After about 5 days my stomach started to lose its roundness and started towards flatness.

No, not 6 pack abs... but it was a great jumpstart for me.


I believe its $120 on tv
but at Bed, Bath and Beyond its $100
THEN you print a 20% off coupon and its only $80


Most infomerical stuff is crap! This isnt one of them. You can clean it in less than 30 seconds. Only 2 pieces.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I will first discuss the embarrassing truth. I am fat and need to diet lol. I am 17 years old, just got done with my football career and I am left with this 6' 300 lb body. Now it's not all fat, I have big arms and huge calves from 4 years of lifting, but the gut and the love handles really bother me. Plus hopefully it will give me more energy going into college.

I want to shed body fat, but I am worried if I lose weight I will also lose some of my strength and muscle. I will be honest and come up front that I know nothing about dieting. I don't eat junk food, but I am the type of man that will eat a lot of whatever you put in front of me. My current diet consists of lots of red meat.

Exercising isn't an issue. I work out 3 times a week, a lot more focused on lifting though. The food part is an issue.

For breakfast it is always cereal. Oatmeal squares, cinnamon squares, ect. Lunch's main food is a sandwich (PB&J, Ham, Turkey, Salami), some fruit and maybe crackers. Dinner is a variety of foods that really isn't a consistent plan.

Is there a specific plan you guys have done in the past to lose weight, or are currently on? What is the best way to lose weight? Cheerios in the morning, with whey protein shake as the milk? Don't take shakes? no sandwich at lunch? No snacks? No soda, just water? What's your plan?

Thank you for your help!

PM me if you want. I was in a similar position - I played football for a few years, got a fractured spine and then got sick and put on prednisone. I went from 170 pds pure muscle to 140 muscleless to 200+ just fat to 160 looking average back on medicine to 210+ and now being cured from UC due to surgery I was able to cutdown to 130. (was at 120 but was far too thin so put on 10 pounds, ice cream is the easiest weight gainer when your not looking for "Good weight" lol, all this was in a 1 and a half year period)

We have different builds but the techniques I used would probably apply similarly due to the age similarity.