Dilemma: Marion Barber or DMAC?

[JBS]

alright guys, I just got done reading an article on MBIII and the exceptional year that he is having. All year long I, along with many others have dreamt about the possibility of acquiring darren mcfadden from arkansas and teaming him up with MBIII. Here is the situation - Let's just pretend that we can move up and get mcfadden because that is obstacle #1. Are we going to conveivably be able to afford to re-sign MBIII to a potential top 5-7 RB contract along with DMACs top 3-5 even potentially #1 overall pick in the upcoming draft.

I dont know how much sense that would make. So the question is this - spend 2 #1s and more money and sign mcfadden or just keep MBIII. Up until recently all I have wanted in the upcoming draft was mcfadden but as of right now I am not sure if he is even worth going after because we do have MBIII. what do you guys think? I know another DMAC thread....sorry guys...I just have not seen this scenario brought up - maybe it has though.

 

[Hostile]

It has come up a couple of times.

 

[big dog cowboy]

McFadden won't be a Cowboy.

End of discusson.

 

[Mavs Man]

I vote to bring back Barber, let Jones walk (unless he wants to return and it won't cost much), draft a change of pace back in the middle rounds (using our 1st day picks on BPA), and then give MB3 the majority of the carries in '08.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

There is no dilema.

If McFadden is to be a Cowboy then it will be a RunDMC/MB3 combo 1-2 punch.


DMC replaces Julius.

 

[03EBZ06]

Forget DMac, get Ray Rice and I'd be happy.

 

[skinsscalper]

In all honesty, I don't think we NEED McFadden. We NEED MBIII. We can find a back that does what Jones does in any round between 2 and 4. That doesn't even factor in FA. What we are doing with Jones and MBIII is working. It will work even better if we find someone more productive than Jones (which shouldn't take an act of God OR a #1 overall pick).

We have two #1s and we should get the most out of them that we can. I was heavily on the McFadden bandwagon for a long time. I'm just not as sold as I used to be that he's what we truly NEED. With the exceptions of Tomlinson and Alexander (who's no more effective than Julius Jones at this point), there's not a highly drafted RB in the entire playoff scenario. The Pats have done well with JAGS for years. To be honest, if we were to "sell the farm" for a RB it should have been done last year for Peterson. McFadden boosters will say that he is just as good as Peterson. I don't buy it for one minute. Mcfadden has ONE aspect to his game. It's speed. Peterson has speed AND power.

We have Newman, Ware, Hamlin, Canty, and Flo to get re-signed on this team. Taking the cap hit of the #1 overall pick virtually guarantees that half of those guys are walking sooner rather than later. I'm not sure that there's a SINGLE player out there worth risking losing half of that group (especially Newman, who is going to demand some serious coin). Let alone a kid that hasn't taken a single snap in the NFL.

I say we take care of NEEDS in FA and draft the best WRs and CBs with our first two picks. But that's just me. I'm certain that others will disagree.

 

[ZeroClub]

Replacing Julius Jones should be a top priority and one that I'd like to see addressed in the 1st or 2nd round. Keep MBIII, of course.

Depending on cost, I'd love to see the Cowboys roll the dice on McFadden.

You never know. McFadden forcing 8 men in the box might do as much for the Cowboys' passing offense as would a first round rookie WR.

 

[Sarge]

McFadden won't be a Cowboy.

End of discusson.

Correct - and here's another newsflash - RB is not even an area of need when compared to other positions.

 

[twa]

Replacing Julius Jones should be a top priority and one that I'd like to see addressed in the 1st or 2nd round. Keep MBIII, of course.

Depending on cost, I'd love to see the Cowboys roll the dice on McFadden.

You never know. McFadden forcing 8 men in the box might do as much for the Cowboys' passing offense as would a first round rookie WR.

Agreed we likely need to replace Jones,but (with the lack of emphasis on our running game) it could be done 2-3.

Unless we intend to change offensive philosophy investing two #1's + and a large chunk of money is pure foolishness.

Is McFadden worth a first round receiver,cornerback and another high round runningback?...Not too mention tying up a lot of gold on one player?

Is he really that good?

 

[tyke1doe]

Replacing Julius Jones should be a top priority and one that I'd like to see addressed in the 1st or 2nd round. Keep MBIII, of course.

Depending on cost, I'd love to see the Cowboys roll the dice on McFadden.

You never know. McFadden forcing 8 men in the box might do as much for the Cowboys' passing offense as would a first round rookie WR.

Agreed.

 

[tyke1doe]

Agreed we likely need to replace Jones,but (with the lack of emphasis on our running game) it could be done 2-3.

Unless we intend to change offensive philosophy investing two #1's + and a large chunk of money is pure foolishness.

Is McFadden worth a first round receiver,cornerback and another high round runningback?...Not too mention tying up a lot of gold on one player?

Is he really that good?

Is he really that good? My question is this: Do you think he's better than Julius Jones and whether he's a better open-field runner?

I think he is, and I believe he'll add another dimension to the Cowboys offense. Right now, teams don't stack eight men in the box to defend the Cowboys, even with Marion Barber.

Having said that, I would be only willing to give two No. 1s and possibly a player (Carpenter) to take McFadden. Anything more than that, then we should just draft another running back.

But evven with McFadden, money is going to be a big issue. We're doing a good job re-signing our current players. I don't know how paying McFadden and re-signing MBIII is going to fit into the monetary scheme of things.

 

[sporadic]

I get awful nervous about rookie RBs...they have all sorts of trouble in pass protecton. That is the exact reason I do not like JJ...he is AWFUL in third down pass protection (he almost always looks outside in instead of vice-versa). If you take a rookie really high, you have to pay them a whole bunch of money not knowing exactly how complete of a back they will end up being. Make Barber the work horse and replace JJ in the 3rd or 4th round...the draft will be filled with capable change of pace backs.

 

[ZeroClub]

Is he really that good? My question is this: Do you think he's better than Julius Jones and whether he's a better open-field runner?

I think he is, and I believe he'll add another dimension to the Cowboys offense. Right now, teams don't stack eight men in the box to defend the Cowboys, even with Marion Barber.

Having said that, I would be only willing to give two No. 1s and possibly a player (Carpenter) to take McFadden. Anything more than that, then we should just draft another running back.

But evven with McFadden, money is going to be a big issue. We're doing a good job re-signing our current players. I don't know how paying McFadden and re-signing MBIII is going to fit into the monetary scheme of things.

Yeah. That's pretty much where I am.

I know that nearly everyone is saying that it'll take much more than two 1st round and one 2nd round draft picks to get the overall #1 pick. And the draft value charts support that kind of idea.

But Parcells is a different kind of guy. He's so conservative and motivated by avoiding failure, that he's going to be extremely concerned (obsessed) about how horrible it would be if the 1st overall pick busted on him.

I think there is a great chance that Parcells thinks that the current draft value charts overestimate the true value of the 1st overall pick. When push comes to shove, I think he'd be willing to take less than those charts suggest.

Of course, even if Parcells were willing to take less, his discounted price could be too high.

 

[YosemiteSam]

There is no dilemma, let it go. McFadden is going to be a New York Jet and good for them and damn good for us too!

Next.

 

[This is Our Year]

I don't want to pay 35 million for a guy who on this team would be a 12-15 carry a game back.

 

[Big Country]

McFadden will slide all the way into the second round...

Book it!!!

You heard it here first!!

 

[skinsscalper]

McFadden will slide all the way into the second round...

Book it!!!

You heard it here first!!

You're smoking crack

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I don't want to pay 35 million for a guy who on this team would be a 12-15 carry a game back.

If those 12-15 touches resulted in TD's more time than not. Then yeah I want him.

You talk of quantity of carries... I talk of quality of carries resulting in TD's

Imagine Barber with 12-15 TD's / season
and
DMC with 15-20 TD's / season

Thatsa nice

 

[Big Country]

You're smoking crack

He is a finesse runner, he bounces everything to the outside...

With this upcoming draft being deep in RBs, another top flight RB will leapfrog him to lay claim to the first RB taken. Or maybe even more than one.

Book it.