Dilfers Top 40 QBs

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I'm interested in reading the article, unfortunately (and proudly) I'm not an ESPN insider.

Anybody have access?
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4401699 said:
Who cares? He's just another former player who doesn't have a clue.

Trent Dilfer is one of the best analysts out there.
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4401699 said:
Who cares? He's just another former player who doesn't have a clue.

The guy actually has a fairly unbiased analytic approach to his work, unlike most of ESPN.

Who has a clue then? Only Cowboy fans who claim Romo is unanimous top 3 year after year?
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4401699 said:
Who cares? He's just another former player who doesn't have a clue.
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I couldn't disagree anymore. He is a great analyst.
 
He put Romo in a category titled "Ring Away". 8th on the list behind Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Big Ben, Eli, & Rivers.

Here's his write up for Tony.

Tony Romo (Cowboys): Wildly underrated, mostly based on overblown "clutch" questions, Romo just finished a season with 31 TD passes against 10 INTs. He was behind only Rodgers, Brees and Brady from a statistical standpoint, while playing dinged up. Want to know where Romo stands, just ask fellow quarterbacks.

"Ring Away" was described as: this category reflects quarterbacks who have the shown the ability play at an elite level or are winning at an elite level and need a Super Bowl win to validate the perception of them. They don't have job-security questions and have proven vital within their offenses. Most display a solid career trajectory and have proven themselves as winners, if not title winners.

Sounds pretty fair to me.
 
Dmoore Esq;4401707 said:
He put Romo in a category titled "Ring Away". 8th on the list behind Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Big Ben, Eli, & Rivers.

Here's his write up for Tony.

Tony Romo (Cowboys): Wildly underrated, mostly based on overblown "clutch" questions, Romo just finished a season with 31 TD passes against 10 INTs. He was behind only Rodgers, Brees and Brady from a statistical standpoint, while playing dinged up. Want to know where Romo stands, just ask fellow quarterbacks.

"Ring Away" was described as: this category reflects quarterbacks who have the shown the ability play at an elite level or are winning at an elite level and need a Super Bowl win to validate the perception of them. They don't have job-security questions and have proven vital within their offenses. Most display a solid career trajectory and have proven themselves as winners, if not title winners.

Sounds pretty fair to me.

Sounds pretty stupid to me. Anyone that puts Phillip Rivers in the top 10 after his terrible season loses all credibility.
 
Dmoore Esq;4401707 said:
He put Romo in a category titled "Ring Away". 8th on the list behind Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Big Ben, Eli, & Rivers.

Here's his write up for Tony.

Tony Romo (Cowboys): Wildly underrated, mostly based on overblown "clutch" questions, Romo just finished a season with 31 TD passes against 10 INTs. He was behind only Rodgers, Brees and Brady from a statistical standpoint, while playing dinged up. Want to know where Romo stands, just ask fellow quarterbacks.

"Ring Away" was described as: this category reflects quarterbacks who have the shown the ability play at an elite level or are winning at an elite level and need a Super Bowl win to validate the perception of them. They don't have job-security questions and have proven vital within their offenses. Most display a solid career trajectory and have proven themselves as winners, if not title winners.

Sounds pretty fair to me.

Is Rivers in Ring Away?

Eli should also be in "ring away". One ring away from being remembered as a mediocre QB.
 
How is Rivers still ranked above Romo? The guy was horrendous last year, and at the same lvl as Romo every other year.
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4401712 said:
Sounds pretty stupid to me. Anyone that puts Phillip Rivers in the top 10 after his terrible season loses all credibility.

1 bad season does not define an entire career...Rivers has been steady his whole career and very good.....this list isnt just the top 40 QBs of 2011 is it?
 
DragonCowboy;4401713 said:
Is Rivers in Ring Away?

Eli should also be in "ring away". One ring away from being remembered as a mediocre QB.

Eli is in a tier by himself, called the Eli Zone. I think the reasoning is if he wins another ring he moves up (to Hall of Fame level), and if he loses he goes down (to ring away level).

I think the rankings are fair. Rivers had a terrible year, but he's still in the conversation. I don't think the point of the article is to say, "this guy is #7, and better than #8", but instead to group QBs into tiers of similar skill level. If you're discrediting an article because a guy is #7 and not #8, you're kinda missing the point.
 
dadymat;4401717 said:
1 bad season does not define an entire career...Rivers has been steady his whole career and very good.....this list isnt just the top 40 QBs of 2011 is it?

It's just a ranking of QBs currently in the NFL. Some teams have 2 guys on the list (TEN with Hasselbeck/Locker, KC with Cassell/Orton). He also lists some wildcards that were back-ups that could be starters (Flynn).

In the wildcard section he mentioned Brian Hoyer of NE (former MSU QB). I completely forgot the guy existed. Guess he's a restricted FA. Maybe NE would let him go since they already have Mallett to develop as well. I really liked him in college.
 
Wait, so Eli needs two rings to reach elite while Romo needs one?

Is that the nonsense I'm reading here?
 
Risen Star;4401722 said:
Wait, so Eli needs two rings to reach elite while Romo needs one?

Is that the nonsense I'm reading here?

There are certain QB's who won superbowls without having to play at an elite level during the season, post-season, or superbowl.

Big Ben, Eli, Dilfer himself, all qualify.
 
Risen Star;4401722 said:
Wait, so Eli needs two rings to reach elite while Romo needs one?

Is that the nonsense I'm reading here?
A QB having a ring doesn't make him better than someone who doesn't. Just that QB's team.
 
SDCowboy85;4401715 said:
How is Rivers still ranked above Romo? The guy was horrendous last year, and at the same lvl as Romo every other year.

He turned it around.

4600 yards
27 TDs
20 INTs

Not really terrible, slightly above average. The last half of the season he played pretty well.
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4401699 said:
Who cares? He's just another former player who doesn't have a clue.

If he has Romo in the top 5 you'll be singing his praise. :D
 
Cowboys&LakersFan;4401699 said:
Who cares? He's just another former player who doesn't have a clue.

CowboyMike;4401701 said:
Trent Dilfer is one of the best analysts out there.

It is a sad but accurate commentary on the state of sportswriting that these are both true statements.
 
Risen Star;4401722 said:
Wait, so Eli needs two rings to reach elite while Romo needs one?

Is that the nonsense I'm reading here?

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if Crayton or Fasano catch those passes in the '07 playoff game, Eli would be universally considered a worse QB than Romo (hence one ring away).

The guy does step his game up when the game's on the line, but dude also gets a ton of breaks and a lot of help from his defense.
 
Dmoore Esq;4401707 said:
He put Romo in a category titled "Ring Away". 8th on the list behind Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Big Ben, Eli, & Rivers.

Here's his write up for Tony.

Tony Romo (Cowboys): Wildly underrated, mostly based on overblown "clutch" questions, Romo just finished a season with 31 TD passes against 10 INTs. He was behind only Rodgers, Brees and Brady from a statistical standpoint, while playing dinged up. Want to know where Romo stands, just ask fellow quarterbacks.

"Ring Away" was described as: this category reflects quarterbacks who have the shown the ability play at an elite level or are winning at an elite level and need a Super Bowl win to validate the perception of them. They don't have job-security questions and have proven vital within their offenses. Most display a solid career trajectory and have proven themselves as winners, if not title winners.

Sounds pretty fair to me.

Dang near brought a tear to this Cowboys' fan's eye. Romo is highly underrated. Even by his peers which is offensive if you ask me. Only the moronic fans and mediots believe otherwise. Fools!

I still believe Romo "helps" win a Super Bowl for the Cowboys before he hangs em' up. I believe this with every fiber of my being. Get this damn O-line fixed and things will turn around. Semi-fix the D and things will be looking up as well.

The "happy fan" that I am thinks we'll get their next season too. How ya like dem apples? Choke on em' for all I care!!!
 

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