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I believe we have a quarterback and enough talent on offense , to run any three of these offenses. The bus driver. In my opinion is, take what the defense gives you style of quarterback. I think Prescott is more than capable of running any offense that is Presented to him by the coordinator . I remember in the early 70s, the Oakland Raiders opening up almost every game with the Deep Pass . I remember the 49ers scoring early and never letting up. I remember the smash mouth. Run it down their throat John Riggins style. I like the offense, to dictate to the defense. It’s coming try to stop it. Dink and dunk methodical balanced football. I don’t like using it until the second half , and only if you have a lead . I don’t know what kellen Moore has up his sleeve this season. Let’s hope it’s innovative and effective. What’s your favorite style of Offense,?
 
Tom Brady has been winning rings dinking and dunking for along time. Like grappling in the UFC, it can be boring to watch.... but it definitely gets the job done.

My favorite offensive scheme (kinda a homer post because it's what JG's system was too) was the Rams offense during the greatest show on turf... that was Air Coryell under Mike Martz. They had the pieces to fit the system perfectly and damn was it fun to watch.
 
Tom Brady has been winning rings dinking and dunking for along time. Like grappling in the UFC, it can be boring to watch.... but it definitely gets the job done.

My favorite offensive scheme (kinda a homer post because it's what JG's system was too) was the Rams offense during the greatest show on turf... that was Air Coryell under Mike Martz. They had the pieces to fit the system perfectly and damn was it fun to watch.

Agree completely. One of the best offenses I've ever seen. Even rivals the 2007 Patriots. Like you said, they had the pieces. You couldn't even blitz them.
 
I believe we have a quarterback and enough talent on offense , to run any three of these offenses. The bus driver. In my opinion is, take what the defense gives you style of quarterback. I think Prescott is more than capable of running any offense that is Presented to him by the coordinator . I remember in the early 70s, the Oakland Raiders opening up almost every game with the Deep Pass . I remember the 49ers scoring early and never letting up. I remember the smash mouth. Run it down their throat John Riggins style. I like the offense, to dictate to the defense. It’s coming try to stop it. Dink and dunk methodical balanced football. I don’t like using it until the second half , and only if you have a lead . I don’t know what kellen Moore has up his sleeve this season. Let’s hope it’s innovative and effective. What’s your favorite style of Offense,?

From what I can see, Dak does best in a wide open spread offense with lots of shotgun and hurry up stuff. That is where he thrives. We also have the talent for that. I dont believe we have the personnel anymore to line up and win playing smash mouth football. Against certain opponents, yes, at times in games, yes, but its no longer our bread and butter. But I do agree we can play it all if our Oline is healthy.
 
Tom Brady has been winning rings dinking and dunking for along time. Like grappling in the UFC, it can be boring to watch.... but it definitely gets the job done.

My favorite offensive scheme (kinda a homer post because it's what JG's system was too) was the Rams offense during the greatest show on turf... that was Air Coryell under Mike Martz. They had the pieces to fit the system perfectly and damn was it fun to watch.

I agree 100%, but he has also been the recipient of an offense (in New England) with a passing game almost totally reliant on the pick play, and a league full of refs willing to look the other way.
 
I believe we have a quarterback and enough talent on offense , to run any three of these offenses. The bus driver. In my opinion is, take what the defense gives you style of quarterback. I think Prescott is more than capable of running any offense that is Presented to him by the coordinator . I remember in the early 70s, the Oakland Raiders opening up almost every game with the Deep Pass . I remember the 49ers scoring early and never letting up. I remember the smash mouth. Run it down their throat John Riggins style. I like the offense, to dictate to the defense. It’s coming try to stop it. Dink and dunk methodical balanced football. I don’t like using it until the second half , and only if you have a lead . I don’t know what kellen Moore has up his sleeve this season. Let’s hope it’s innovative and effective. What’s your favorite style of Offense,?
all the above..need balance need to be unpredictable why one or the other,.you react and adjust to what the defense gives you or doesn't..you have to be able to do it all and thats on the green KM OC ..
 
I lean to a good balance of passing and advancing the ball on the ground. Of course, the available offensive talent tends to favor one of those methods over the others, in most cases. I think the Cowboys have a healthy blend of both running and passing. There's surely a good reason why they've been proven successful. Let's hope the OL rebounds favorably from an awfully unhealthy situation last season. If so, we're good to go.
 
From what I can see, Dak does best in a wide open spread offense with lots of shotgun and hurry up stuff. That is where he thrives. We also have the talent for that. I dont believe we have the personnel anymore to line up and win playing smash mouth football. Against certain opponents, yes, at times in games, yes, but its no longer our bread and butter. But I do agree we can play it all if our Oline is healthy.
I think the league tends to have gone to shot gun, hurry up type offense, because that's what's coming out of colleges. most colleges run that offense, with multiple WR (4 or even 5), fast paced offense and dare the defenses to stop them and bet that's their 3rd, 4th or 5th WR is better than their 3rd, 4th or 5th DB....most often is the case....

a lot of young QBs today come from that type of offense, including mahomes, dak, murray, etc. lamar jackson is also a great example as he is a rushing QB making some throws.....so the NFL has adapted to what these guys can do best. there aren't that many QBs coming out that can effectively play under center...

and smash mouth football doesn't work any more.....rules changed to make it more passer friendly. its better highlights and more scoring catering to the more fringe casual fans and ESPN highlights....you have to pass effectively to succeed.
 
I believe we have a quarterback and enough talent on offense , to run any three of these offenses. The bus driver. In my opinion is, take what the defense gives you style of quarterback. I think Prescott is more than capable of running any offense that is Presented to him by the coordinator . I remember in the early 70s, the Oakland Raiders opening up almost every game with the Deep Pass . I remember the 49ers scoring early and never letting up. I remember the smash mouth. Run it down their throat John Riggins style. I like the offense, to dictate to the defense. It’s coming try to stop it. Dink and dunk methodical balanced football. I don’t like using it until the second half , and only if you have a lead . I don’t know what kellen Moore has up his sleeve this season. Let’s hope it’s innovative and effective. What’s your favorite style of Offense,?
I prefer an offense that features a TE that attacks the defense. Like when Witten was in his prime. Run the RB and hit quick passes and move chain. This helps the defense stay fresh going into 4th Qt
 
I think we should mix all the types of offense together. The biggest factor supporting success is to disguise formations to keep the defense guessing and keep them that 0.5 second slower in their read. KM is key.

As the OP says we should be more than capable to play all 3 styles. What can we add? Gotta make the D think to slow reaction time. Gotta run out of passing formations and pass out of running formations. Deception is key.

Now personally I like the wide open, pedal to the metal offenses and don't think we can play 60 minutes of mostly smash-mouth every game like we did in 2016. We can still play power football but we gotta mix it up.

Please stay healthy is all I ask, especially the OL !
 
kinda a homer post because it's what JG's system was too) was the Rams offense during the greatest show on turf.

I argued for years that an offense like the Rams could be ran successfully. No one wanted to hear it. It was "outside the box" and couldn't be done according to ... everyone.

I have seen people refer to JG's system as the GSoT philosophy. I don't think that is accurate at all. The GSoT attacked relentlessly at every level. You have to have a dynamic dual threat back & slot guy to approach the GSoT. He never focused on those areas.
 
We appear to have the offensive pieces (assuming health) to run anything we want. Whether it be ground & pound, feature the TE's, feature the WR's, dink & dunk, receiving backs, jet sweeps, etc..

For God's sake, run your offense to take advantage of the opponent's weakest link. Nothing ticks me off like JG's attitude of "Well it's the best run defense in the league but we are going to run it cause that's what we do."
 
I think the league tends to have gone to shot gun, hurry up type offense, because that's what's coming out of colleges. most colleges run that offense, with multiple WR (4 or even 5), fast paced offense and dare the defenses to stop them and bet that's their 3rd, 4th or 5th WR is better than their 3rd, 4th or 5th DB....most often is the case....

a lot of young QBs today come from that type of offense, including mahomes, dak, murray, etc. lamar jackson is also a great example as he is a rushing QB making some throws.....so the NFL has adapted to what these guys can do best. there aren't that many QBs coming out that can effectively play under center...

and smash mouth football doesn't work any more.....rules changed to make it more passer friendly. its better highlights and more scoring catering to the more fringe casual fans and ESPN highlights....you have to pass effectively to succeed.
smash mouth maybe not but teams like say the Titans are using what looks very familiar to DC 2014-2018 pre KM era, the ravens are running a run style offense but you have to have player that can do this, both having success not being pass happy teams..

SF used a 3 headed run attack to get to sb and yes it was run first pass second

really the RB is as important now as it was in the 60s, 70s, 80, 90s etc. etc they are just used differently at times but you have to have a good Rb a great rb to have threat there or teams will find way to slow a offense at some point in drive if they dont have to look at RB threat..

the say this is passing league when like offense from the air coreal, terry Bradshaw, Johnny unitus etc etc they threw and slung it with 3 wrs back then as well..yet other ran smash mouth..nothings changed IMO you tlir an offense to your talent..run and hoot mean anything to you? i mean offenses like this existed in the 80s , like i said its teams looking at their talent and that what they run..greatest show on turf? just like theri were running qbs back the day like Roger, young etc

KM need to grow up and find balance. Doesnt mean prefect balance some games you throw more some you run some are in balance..you cant just have passed based offense with no run threat that wont work..NE made living using Rbs both run and inthe pass game with safe passing game but TB12 cold open it up when needed as Troy and our 90s teams could..

the best teams can do it all and adjust to any defense and dictate to the defenses..if not the defense will win..

lastly as i mentioned in the first line teams like the titans have realized , YOU ACTUALLY CAN RUN NOW AND TEAMS FIGURING THAT SMALL LBS AND SAFTYS ETC DL IN PASS RUSH MODE AND NOT GREAT AGAINST THE RUN , WELL LIKE MOST ERAS, TEAMS FIGURE THIS OUT AND COUNTER, SAY OK RUN NICKLE ALL THE TIME AND ILL RUN IT DOWN YOUR THROATS..

you know like the rams did to us in that playoff game, Seatle has Wilson but they are pretty balanced in the run game when they were at their very best etc etc

i think its an overblown narrative that this is pass happy league and run game is out of date..nah the sets they run out of the way you run , maybe ;liots of offense dont get qbs who can come from under center and no longer line up in the traditional run formations but is still very important.. we can use Zeke and pollard as weapons if KNM figures out how to use them properly within his passing schemes..

remember the MIA game with zeke and pollard and the revenge game against the rams i mean we ran it down their throats and with an OC that can do this more find times to exploits these faster smallish defenses set to Match against the pass game, well you can win..
 
YOU ACTUALLY CAN RUN NOW AND TEAMS FIGURING THAT SMALL LBS AND SAFTYS ETC DL IN PASS RUSH MODE AND NOT GREAT AGAINST THE RUN , WELL LIKE MOST ERAS, TEAMS FIGURE THIS OUT AND COUNTER, SAY OK RUN NICKLE ALL THE TIME AND ILL RUN IT DOWN YOUR THROATS..

It's a perfectly legitimate strategy to zig when you see a majority of the league zagging. You know there will be a supply\demand issue if you are trying to find the same type players as everyone else. Makes sense to feast on the abundance of players who can run a different scheme & take advantage of the mismatches you can create.

One caveat is that an offensive line built for a power running game is generally not replaceable if issues occur. IMO that was the Titans biggest issue last year. They lost one of their starters in FA & had injuries to Lewan. They were not quite as dominant in run blocking as the year before and it also exposed them to the pass rush.

It's a little easier to replace pieces on a passing offense.
 
And I like offenses that are just as good in the first half as they are in the second. They don't need to fall behind 3 scores so the opponent is playing prevent.
The reality is Moore has to adjust as the defense reveals its scheme. Moore has to dink and dunk as its given. Throw depending on personnel. Moore has not shown he can do that in the same game. That's something he must do to help Dak elevate his play.
 

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