DISH Is Threatening Lawsuits Against IPTV Subscribers

Stealing is stealing and those caught should be punished. Like the Kodi users here.
 
Used to strictly steal all media content but keeping up with it was annoying so went legal. I still have a service for movies when I get overly bored with what's legally streaming tho.
 
YosemiteSam said:
I stream any TV I watch, but I'm 100% legal. Are you? :)
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Yep. Pay for everything except OTA but that's free to everyone who can get it. Now I did put Kodi on my Fire Stick as it was collecting dust and I was bored. Got it up and running but just browsed through stuff. Pretty much everything is out there so I can see why it would be tempting to do that. But it's not for me. FS has been collecting dust again since.

Reminds me of how the RIAA starting going after the downloader. I don't think it will stop it but it may deter some that were on the fence.
 
Back in the 90s, I used to download cracked software, but if I ever kept using. I always went back and paid for a full licensed copy. For me, it was like shareware from back in those days. I had gotten burned on more than one occasion buying software only to find out it sucked or didn't do what I needed it to do.

So, I would warez it and if I liked it; I would pay for it.

Most software I use today is either free, or there is a free version of it that I get to try out. If I like it and want more of the features. Then I pay for it. That said, the only software I've purchased in the last couple of years is ham radio software (RT Systems, and Ham Radio Deluxe), Astrophotography camera software. (BackyardEOS, and Nebulosity), and finally a Python programming IDE called PyCharm. (I renew that yearly)

I look at it like this. If it's a good product and you want to keep using it with new versions. You should support it's development. That would go for media too. (music, TV shows, movies, etc)

Great actors and directors and stuff. If they couldn't make a living making the content you love, they wouldn't make it and you wouldn't have anything.

If you use it, pay for it. Don't be a bum.
 
I'm 100% legal and plan to stay that way, but I could care less if people stick it to cable companies who for years colluded with each other and bought politicians to get exclusive access to areas, forcing customers to go with them without any choice if they wanted more than broadcast tv. So they held monopolies and charged whatever they wanted for often-times shoddy product but it was their way or nothing. That's anti-capitalism and illegal, yet they (more or less legally) got away with it.

Also the fine print on some of their contracts is downright shady. When I had DirecTV, we bought (from Best Buy) another box to put in our bedroom. Nowhere on the packaging did it say anywhere about mandatory contract time, nor did it state anything about it being a box rental. So when fiber optic finally came to our neighborhood, I called to cancel DirecTV. They stated that since we had got the new box six months previously (again, from Best Buy), we had agreed (merely by purchasing said box) to at least a year of service and we would have to pay a $400 early termination fee as well as send all of the equipment back. I didn't mind sending the equipment back, but I was pissed about the termination fee since I had already completed the original 2 year contract and was on month-to-month. After being on the phone with them, I opened the box the DirecTV box we bought came in and there was a sheet with super tiny print specifying what they were saying....Bought you'd had to have purchased the box to know it since it stated it nowhere else.

I sent the equipment back, paid the fee, and told them never to contact me again. (They still contact me all the time and I simply tell them it will be a cold day in hell before I ever did business with them again....to which they reply that they no longer use such tactics and have changed, but I still say "Don't contact me again." They still do.)

I bet Dish did the same things, so none of those businesses get my sympathy.


Unethical companies whining about people being unethical amuses me.
 
DeathMonkey said:
I'm 100% legal and plan to stay that way, but I could care less if people stick it to cable companies who for years colluded with each other and bought politicians to get exclusive access to areas, forcing customers to go with them without any choice if they wanted more than broadcast tv. So they held monopolies and charged whatever they wanted for often-times shoddy product but it was their way or nothing. That's anti-capitalism and illegal, yet they (more or less legally) got away with it.

Also the fine print on some of their contracts is downright shady. When I had DirecTV, we bought (from Best Buy) another box to put in our bedroom. Nowhere on the packaging did it say anywhere about mandatory contract time, nor did it state anything about it being a box rental. So when fiber optic finally came to our neighborhood, I called to cancel DirecTV. They stated that since we had got the new box six months previously (again, from Best Buy), we had agreed (merely by purchasing said box) to at least a year of service and we would have to pay a $400 early termination fee as well as send all of the equipment back. I didn't mind sending the equipment back, but I was pissed about the termination fee since I had already completed the original 2 year contract and was on month-to-month. After being on the phone with them, I opened the box the DirecTV box we bought came in and there was a sheet with super tiny print specifying what they were saying....Bought you'd had to have purchased the box to know it since it stated it nowhere else.

I sent the equipment back, paid the fee, and told them never to contact me again. (They still contact me all the time and I simply tell them it will be a cold day in hell before I ever did business with them again....to which they reply that they no longer use such tactics and have changed, but I still say "Don't contact me again." They still do.)

I bet Dish did the same things, so none of those businesses get my sympathy.


Unethical companies whining about people being unethical amuses me.
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LOL, they are much worse now with AT&T.

I still use them though for one reason only - Sunday Ticket. I have to do the negotiations every year, but oh well. Once a year isn't too bad. Looking at other legal streaming methods, and I figure I'd still pay $75 a month to get what I want and then have to do something for Sunday ticket. That's really not much of a discount (if any) from what I negotiate, so it's not worth the bother to cut the cord at this time.
 
Rockport said:
Stealing is stealing and those caught should be punished. Like the Kodi users here.
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This comment is funny. So only Kodi users is being labeled as stealing? We see or hear free tv or music on Youtube, Dailymotion etc. Isn't that in a way stealing since we are viewing the content? I mean we can watch old football games on Youtube that isn't uploaded by the NFL. I guess that is ok because it is a trusted site. The reality is that everyone viewed something that wasn't purchased by us that wasn't uploaded by the company who owns the file.

In other words, if anyone wants to stop piracy, you have to start from the top. The top are the companies and people that provides the "illegal" content and then the viewers will have no other choice but to go OTA or pay for service. Hell, YouTube basically encourage piracy on their own website which allows anyone to get free content.
 
Reality said:
Why would anyone "subscribe" to (as in pay) an illegal streaming service when there are several reasonably priced legal subscription-based streaming services available?
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#1, because sports still isnt easy to get "legally".
 
Reality said:
Why would anyone "subscribe" to (as in pay) an illegal streaming service when there are several reasonably priced legal subscription-based streaming services available?
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Because for a very low price you get access to all media instead of having to subscribe to dozens of separate steaming services.
 
65fastback2plus2 said:
#1, because sports still isnt easy to get "legally".
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That is not what the article is about.

I did not ask why people subscribe to services they cannot get elsewhere.

I asked why would someone pay for an illegal service when there are multiple services just like it available for a reasonable price.
 
Denim Chicken said:
Because for a very low price you get access to all media instead of having to subscribe to dozens of separate steaming services.
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There are several all-in-one services available though. Just because some services have their own streaming service does not mean their programming is not available in other AIO services.

Again though, we're talking DISH network channels here.
 
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