Dispelling two myths on Roy Williams

NickZepp

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Myth 1: His numbers went down after Darren Woodson left

WRONG they went up in every part of his game. His 2nd to worst year in the NFL was Woodson's last year in 2003. Woodson's numbers were the ones that took a sharp downward turn after Roy came in.

Myth 2: Roy Williams is bad in coverage

Despite being a bad coverage safety as most here think. Which isn't really true. A safety is probably the most difficult DB spot to play now because TEs and slot WRs are getting so much better and so much harder to scheme against. The 3-4 probably doesn't fit against it well unless there is pressure at the QB. And that's what Roy Williams should be doing more of yet he doesn't because the 3-4 really doesn't allow that.

Despite all that every year of his career he's had at least 2 INTs. His worst statistical year in number of tackles, in 2006 he had 5 INTs and he had the most pass deflections of his career in that year also. I would say the 3-4 has probably hurt him more than any other member of the defense. He isn't a guy that should be in pass coverage that much. He wasn't at OU. It's not that he's really bad in pass coverage. His stats show he can cover. But you can't put him in coverage all the time. He's one of the best players in the NFL if he's near the line of scrimmage. That's where he needs to be utilized the most. And I don't think that's happened since the switch to the 3-4.
 

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"Please, sir, might I have some more Roy threads?"
 

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bbgun;2090295 said:
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"Please, sir, might I have some more Roy threads?"

Nice ...
 

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Well I think the OP has put this issue to bed, time to lock the forum.
 

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As for Roy's coverage skills...they are fine. Where he gets in trouble is by totally blowing his assignments. He is frequently seen making bad decisions on which guy to try and cover or he has that deer in the headlights look and is completely indecisive. When he actually makes the right read he is not bad in coverage. It is his inability to make the right read that fuels his reputation for being bad in coverage.
 

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NickZepp;2090280 said:
He's one of the best players in the NFL if he's near the line of scrimmage. That's where he needs to be utilized the most. And I don't think that's happened since the switch to the 3-4.

I've always been a big RW supporter. One of the things that I respected the most was his closing speed and tackling ability. Last year he was a shell of his former self. He missed more takles and played more timid than I've seen him. He looked like he lost his passion. He was very inconsistent around the line of scrimmage.
Hopefully he will use all the criticism as motivation to bring his game back to the lofty level it used to be.
 

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Piss off with this.

Clearly, his play in the last two years has dropped off and is a
liability in coverage. It's known. He's admitted to it.
Over.

He's on a short leash and has to prove himself.
 

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bbgun;2090295 said:
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"Please, sir, might I have some more Roy threads?"

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"No Roy for you!!!"
 

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JackMagist;2090368 said:
As for Roy's coverage skills...they are fine. Where he gets in trouble is by totally blowing his assignments. He is frequently seen making bad decisions on which guy to try and cover or he has that deer in the headlights look and is completely indecisive. When he actually makes the right read he is not bad in coverage. It is his inability to make the right read that fuels his reputation for being bad in coverage.

And the problem in making the right decisions seem to be because he doesn't spend enough time in the film room studying and preparing himself mentally.
 

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I'm not bashing or supporting Roy, but getting INT's doesn't necessarily equate to good coverage. Sometimes the ball is over or under thrown, tipped in the air, or just thrown in the wrong spot.
 

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jdub2k4;2090480 said:
I'm not bashing or supporting Roy, but getting INT's doesn't necessarily equate to good coverage. Sometimes the ball is over or under thrown, tipped in the air, or just thrown in the wrong spot.

coverage is sometimes being where the ball is
 

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Its funny... there have been sooooo many Roy thread and I actually have a NEW response to post.

"If Woody had gone straight the police... none of this ever would have happened"


replace "Woody" with "Roy"
replace "had gone straight to the police" with "was still hitting hard"
 

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bbgun;2090295 said:
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"Please, sir, might I have some more Roy threads?"



:laugh2: :bow:
 

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It's well known all around the NFL that if Roy is put on an island in center field, he will get torched by most FBs'.

Hear he lost 28 lbs, maybe this will make a difference. But, I will never understand why exactly he doesn't use his hitting instincts, like he once did.


Unless there is an undisclosed injury.
 
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