DJ Fluker vs Anthony Davis

Manwiththeplan

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How would any of you guys compare DJ Fluker to Anthony Davis? On paper they seem similar


DJ Fluker
Height: 6'5
Weight: 339 lbs
36.5 inch arms
21 Bench Press
?? inch vertical
5.28 40 yard time
3.06 20 yard time
1.90 10 yard time
??? short shuttle
??? 3 cone drill


Anthony Davis
Height: 6'5
Weight: 323 lbs
34 inch arms
21 Bench Reps
33 inch vertical
5.36 40 yard time
3.01 20 yard time
1.82 10 yard time
4.97 short shuttle
8.17 3 cone drill

Anthony has been a pretty successfull RT for SF and I want to know why everyone completely writes off Fluker (I admittedly did for a while). Davis has similar size (shorter arms, tad lighter) and athleticism (numbers are only a few hundreths of a second off), so I don't see why Fluker can't be a good RT.

And if you compare them collegiately, Fluker played in the SEC, Davis played in the Big East. On top of that, Davis' play at Rutgers never equaled the hype he generated as a prospect. He was guy that you *hoped* would mature and play consistently, and he has. Fluker may have struggled some against speed rushers in college, but I think if he keeps his weight under control he could be a very good RT, if not, I still think he can be a very good guard.
 

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I don't think those two compare at all other than their position. Fluker is more like Andre Smith and Phil Loadholdt to me.
 

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SF is a run heavy team and not much of a drop back and pass. Alex Smith passed the ball very few times and same for Kaepernick.

I wouldn't want Davis in this system either.
 

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supercowboy8;5042134 said:
SF is a run heavy team and not much of a drop back and pass. Alex Smith passed the ball very few times and same for Kaepernick.

I wouldn't want Davis in this system either.

havent we determined all offseason that we need to establish a running game.
A strong like bull RT will help immensely with that aspect of helping tony romo.
 

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I think Fluker compares more to James Carpenter.

Not because both went to Alabama but size speed and power are about the same. Both are heavy footed, power run OL.

6'4"
321
34 inch arms
5.28 40
23 on the bench

Pro day
3 cone 7.56
20 yard shuttle 4.75
 

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I think Leonard Davis is a better comparison to be honest. Obviously Big has about 20 lbs on Fluker, but playing style is very similar. And just like Big I believe Fluker will have his most success at OG in the NFL.
 

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supercowboy8;5042138 said:
I think Fluker compares more to James Carpenter.

Not because both went to Alabama but size speed and power are about the same. Both are heavy footed, power run OL.

6'4"
321
34 inch arms
5.28 40
23 on the bench

Pro day
3 cone 7.56
20 yard shuttle 4.75

I'm fairly confident that Fluker is better than Carpenter. Maybe not enough to play RT (Crapenter plays guard now I think), but he was better in college and has a much better reach.

I mainly like the idea of Fluker because I think he could possibily be a good RT if we commit to running a lot more, but am sure he'll be a good guard, no matter the scheme and play calling.
 

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tm1119;5042139 said:
I think Leonard Davis is a better comparison to be honest. Obviously Big has about 20 lbs on Fluker, but playing style is very similar. And just like Big I believe Fluker will have his most success at OG in the NFL.

Bigg wasn't a horribile OT early in his career, although I agreee playing him at guard his whole career would've been better. He played guard the first 3 years before switching to LT. Had he switched to RT instead he would've had even more success (still not worth resigning if u r Arizona and saw what we were offering).

But as with most guys his size, they drop off quickly. If he were a harder worker, I think he could've been a quality RT for most of his career.
 

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Manwiththeplan;5042174 said:
I'm fairly confident that Fluker is better than Carpenter. Maybe not enough to play RT (Crapenter plays guard now I think), but he was better in college and has a much better reach.

I mainly like the idea of Fluker because I think he could possibily be a good RT if we commit to running a lot more, but am sure he'll be a good guard, no matter the scheme and play calling.

I'm against drafting a good OG at 18.
Cooper and Warmack are the only OGs I want at 18.
I can find a good OG in the 2nd and 3rd
 

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supercowboy8;5042188 said:
I'm against drafting a good OG at 18.
Cooper and Warmack are the only OGs I want at 18.
I can find a good OG in the 2nd and 3rd

I can easily see Fluker being better than both. I would take them first because they actually played guard, but I think he can be better. Was really saying worst case scenario, he's a good guard.
 

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supercowboy8;5042188 said:
I'm against drafting a good OG at 18.
Cooper and Warmack are the only OGs I want at 18.
I can find a good OG in the 2nd and 3rd

You may find a good guard in the second or third round. The problem with this team's scouting department is that they can't. As much as I believe in having a top oline, I don't like to see guard picked in the first. With the poor olineman evaluations, they may have to draft a guard in the first to hit on the pick.
 

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Fluker scares me. There is no doubt that he is overweight. The fact that he lost so much weight to get ready for the combine is a little alarming. Why didn't he try to lose weight in college as he as always played tackle? Surely he could have gotten down to 330 lbs with so many years at a school like Alabama. His playing at 360 lbs tells me two things: One he likes to eat, and two he is lazy. Is he talented, absolutely...but I wouldn't risk a premier pick on a lazy person.
 

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neosapien23;5042219 said:
Fluker scares me. There is no doubt that he is overweight. The fact that he lost so much weight to get ready for the combine is a little alarming. Why didn't he try to lose weight in college as he as always played tackle? Surely he could have gotten down to 330 lbs with so many years at a school like Alabama. His playing at 360 lbs tells me two things: One he likes to eat, and two he is lazy. Is he talented, absolutely...but I wouldn't risk a premier pick on a lazy person.

Fluker is just a very thick, huge lineman. Scouts commented that he was not fat at 339lbs and that he looked like he was in good shape. His playing weight was a few pounds more, but he doesn't appear to have extra weight. He is not a fatty. His size is legit.
 

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I'd be fine if all our top OL targets are gone (Lane Johnson, Cooper, Warmack) and we did a slight trade down to gain an additional pick somewhere and took Fluker in Rd 1. I don't find much reason to think he won't be a monster in the NFL. He's big and powerful and nasty. I think he may actually do well at RT but may be pro-bowl at G. My biggest concern, and I say this cuz I honestly don't know where Fluker is at in this dept, would be his intelligence/awareness and whether or not he's a true student of the game. If he's a smart, studious guy, I'm sure he could transition to G no problem if he was a little slow at RT. I think he's a fairly safe pick in that scenario knowing that if RT is a struggle you still end up with a likely pro bowl G that will collapse a DL consistently.
 

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I'm not sure he is quite as athletic but he reminds me of mankins and especially iupati. I think he would make a decent tackle. But I don't think he has the length of loadholdt to get the edge. I think he could play tackle for some run heavy teams but I would not like 45 pass attempts a game with him as my tackle. I'd be pretty happy with him as my right guard.
 

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Isn't Davis a failed LT? I don't think he was drafted as a RT only prospect.
 

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TheCount;5042319 said:
Isn't Davis a failed LT? I don't think he was drafted as a RT only prospect.

When they drafted him they were not sure Staley was going to become competent is pass protection. Davis was not good At all his first year or two.
 

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TheCount;5042319 said:
Isn't Davis a failed LT? I don't think he was drafted as a RT only prospect.

Staley was a first rounder a year or two before Davis, and I think he has always been the LT.
 

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cowboysooner;5042340 said:
Davis was not good At all his first year or two.

He's only played for 3 years and was just rewarded with a 5 year extension, so I think you may be mistaken.
 
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