DMN Blog: A case for Jason Garrett

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Hostile;2560362 said:
Do it yourself. I'm no friggin' secretary for you.

It's true. He can't type or collate worth a damn. I only hired him because of his looks.
 

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Hostile;2560383 said:
Garrett in 2008 was not good enough. I am saying he is smart enough and driven enough to figure it out. I want him here [strike]when[/strike] if he does, not in Denver, Detroit, or Death Valley.

The difference, as I see it, is in bold.
 

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bbgun;2560404 said:
It's true. He can't type or collate worth a damn. I only hired him because of his looks.
Please tell that to jterrell so he won't tell me not to wear my Daisy Dukes.
 

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Hostile;2560307 said:
The thing that confuses me is if Tony Sparano is such an instrumental part in how potent our Offense was in 2007, why wasn't he that instrumental from 2003-2006?

How about he was not even involved with heavily in 2003-2005 when Carthon was aboard? He did not even become running game coordinator until 2005. 2006 was his first year as a playcaller and that was with Bledsoe as the QB for part of the year and a green Romo. Our offense was nearly as explosive as 2007 despite that.

And perhaps it is the little things. It is a fact he was the resident "butt-kicker" on the staff and that was acknowledged wholesale when he left. Given Garrett's inability to handle all the mouths to feed, who is to say his help didn't contribute in this regard?

Garrett arrives and suddenly Sparano is a genius? Or is it that he wasn't a genius until he went to Miami with Parcells who was the reason fro everything right in the Universe?

One way or the other, it will be proven eventually. But two of our most prolific offenses of the last decade were in 2006 and 2007, the common link between both did not go to Princeton.
 

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Alexander;2560456 said:
How about he was not even involved with heavily in 2003-2005 when Carthon was aboard? He did not even become running game coordinator until 2005. 2006 was his first year as a playcaller and that was with Bledsoe as the QB for part of the year and a green Romo. Our offense was nearly as explosive as 2007 despite that.

And perhaps it is the little things. It is a fact he was the resident "butt-kicker" on the staff and that was acknowledged wholesale when he left. Given Garrett's inability to handle all the mouths to feed, who is to say his help didn't contribute in this regard?



One way or the other, it will be proven eventually. But two of our most prolific offenses of the last decade were in 2006 and 2007, the common link between both did not go to Princeton.
The "butt kicker" on the staff was Todd Haley.
 

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We need a leader of men for this team not simply an offensive mind.

The question is not how would Garrett do elsewhere as a head coach?

The substantive question is how would Jason Garrett do in Dallas as a head coach?

Based on the small sample that we have and thus the only sample that we have, not so well.

Dallas is not just any club, it eats poor coaches alive and brings quality coaches to retirement.

Before you want to anoint Jason Garrett as the potential "one that got away", one would do well to review his overall performance particularly in Dallas as a leader of men (even simply his squad).

Even offensively, Garrett has earned mixed reviews, with his most recent work questioning whether Tony Sporano was the brains behind the 2007 season in terms of offensive production.

Injuries are always part of the game but you do not need to be a red genius to identify the entire offense was: simplistic, out of sync constantly, without leadership and failed to integrate new talent in addition to make proper adjustments both in games and after games.

I can honestly live without the hope of potential offensive promise but I can not live with the fact that this team will NEVER win a championship much less a play off game without a true leader of men as head coach.

We must consider what Dallas needs now contextually speaking not just what we hope would be the case for the future on the offensive side of the ball.
 

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WoodysGirl;2560072 said:
11:49 AM Wed, Jan 07, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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I realize we are supposed to sit and rip Jason Garrett for everything that went wrong with the Cowboys' offense in 2008. Sorry, I'm not ready to do that.

I think Garrett is still a quality offensive coordinator with a ton of potential, and he didn't have his best season. Last year he was a genius. Now he has no clue? I don't get that line of thinking.

Clearly the offense wasn't the same in 2008 as it was in '07. Garrett was a believer in Brad Johnson and that didn't work out, but he was also in favor of the team going after Chris Simms on draft weekend. Garrett was Hudson Houck's supporter, and the offensive line wasn't as good in '08 as it was in '07. That's on Garrett, too.

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Injuries played a part in the downfall. While that can't be used as an excuse, it's also a real reason. Tony Romo missing three games with a fractured pinky cost the Cowboys a ton.

In the 13 games Romo started, the Cowboys averaged 25.1 points and gained 370.5 yards. In 2007 when he started every game the Cowboys averaged 28.4 points and 365.7 yards per game. Those numbers are similar.

And people don't want to hear this either, but the Cowboys' final four opponents last season had some of the best defenses in the league. Pittsburgh, the Giants, Baltimore and Philadelphia had the Nos. 1, 5, 2 and 3 ranked defenses.

Should it not be pointed out that no team moved the ball against those teams and that's why all four are playing this weekend?

Except for the Pittsburgh (13) and Philly (6) games, the Cowboys scored more points against New York and Baltimore than what it had allowed on average during the season.

The Cowboys had more rushing yards against three of the four than they had allowed on average during the season. The 87 yards vs. the Eagles were 5 below what they had given up. Romo passed for more yards against those defenses than they had allowed on average during the season.

I'm not saying Garrett is flawless, but I think people need to take a breath and think about things for a second. Let the emotion of the season subside and analyze it.

Say Garrett leaves. Who replaces him? Ray Sherman has two years of playcalling experience (same as Garrett) and he would be the most logical in-house candidate. And if you look outside the building, it might be difficult to get a top coordinator to take a gig knowing Wade Phillips will be on the hottest of hot seats in 2009.

Remember this too: Jerry Jones has seen offensive coaches Sean Payton and Tony Sparano leave in the last four years and become successful head coaches in New Orleans and Miami. Do you think he wants to see Garrett become a successful head coach somewhere else, too?


No, he does not want to see that, and that is why he paid him that 3 million dollars.
 

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WoodysGirl;2560072 said:
11:49 AM Wed, Jan 07, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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I realize we are supposed to sit and rip Jason Garrett for everything that went wrong with the Cowboys' offense in 2008. Sorry, I'm not ready to do that.

I think Garrett is still a quality offensive coordinator with a ton of potential, and he didn't have his best season. Last year he was a genius. Now he has no clue? I don't get that line of thinking.

Clearly the offense wasn't the same in 2008 as it was in '07. Garrett was a believer in Brad Johnson and that didn't work out, but he was also in favor of the team going after Chris Simms on draft weekend. Garrett was Hudson Houck's supporter, and the offensive line wasn't as good in '08 as it was in '07. That's on Garrett, too.

(Photo: G.J. McCarthy/DMN)

Injuries played a part in the downfall. While that can't be used as an excuse, it's also a real reason. Tony Romo missing three games with a fractured pinky cost the Cowboys a ton.

In the 13 games Romo started, the Cowboys averaged 25.1 points and gained 370.5 yards. In 2007 when he started every game the Cowboys averaged 28.4 points and 365.7 yards per game. Those numbers are similar.

And people don't want to hear this either, but the Cowboys' final four opponents last season had some of the best defenses in the league. Pittsburgh, the Giants, Baltimore and Philadelphia had the Nos. 1, 5, 2 and 3 ranked defenses.

Should it not be pointed out that no team moved the ball against those teams and that's why all four are playing this weekend?

Except for the Pittsburgh (13) and Philly (6) games, the Cowboys scored more points against New York and Baltimore than what it had allowed on average during the season.

The Cowboys had more rushing yards against three of the four than they had allowed on average during the season. The 87 yards vs. the Eagles were 5 below what they had given up. Romo passed for more yards against those defenses than they had allowed on average during the season.

I'm not saying Garrett is flawless, but I think people need to take a breath and think about things for a second. Let the emotion of the season subside and analyze it.

Say Garrett leaves. Who replaces him? Ray Sherman has two years of playcalling experience (same as Garrett) and he would be the most logical in-house candidate. And if you look outside the building, it might be difficult to get a top coordinator to take a gig knowing Wade Phillips will be on the hottest of hot seats in 2009.

Remember this too: Jerry Jones has seen offensive coaches Sean Payton and Tony Sparano leave in the last four years and become successful head coaches in New Orleans and Miami. Do you think he wants to see Garrett become a successful head coach somewhere else, too?

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Couldnt have said it better myself.
 

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sorry not buying it by JG, good riddance.....I say he goes somewhere else hes burned here......per ed reed.
 

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Results aren't the most frustrating aspect IMO.

Its the aspects that don't show up in the stat book that piss me off.


Play calling. Lack of creativity. Lack of anything really.
 

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Saying we were above average given up for 1-2 teams or whatever is a total joke.
I am sorry-but it made no since.
We lost 3 of the last 4 due mostly to a terrible offensive performance.
 

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Hostile;2560457 said:
The "butt kicker" on the staff was Todd Haley.

No, actually he was the one getting his butt kicked.

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Don't take my word for it:

Coaching staff loses best butt kicker

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Tony Sparano, a proven play-caller, was the reason I thought all the worry about Jason Garrett getting a head coaching job was overblown.
All that changed when Bill Parcells scratched his football itch. Suddenly, Sparano became a hot coaching candidate, and he ended up beating Garrett out of town. More on that from Hashmarks' Matt Mosley, who thinks Sparano to Miami could hurt the Cowboys more than Garrett to Baltimore/Atlanta/wherever.
Wade Phillips is under fire for being too soft on his players. Sparano, the assistant head coach this season, is a no-bull, no-excuses kind of guy.
"He just knows how to push the buttons," TE Jason Witten said Monday. "He understands how to get the most out of you, and at the same time he doesn't overdo it.
"The one thing that separates Tony from a lot of guys is he's going to figure it out, he's going to do whatever it takes to put you in a situation to be successful. There's no excuses, and there's no second-guessing. There's none of that. He's going to leave it on the line. And I think as a player knowing that your coach is doing everything possible to give you a chance to succeed, that's the biggest compliment you can ever give them."
 

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Alexander;2561309 said:
No, actually he was the one getting his butt kicked.

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Don't take my word for it:

Coaching staff loses best butt kicker

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Tony Sparano, a proven play-caller, was the reason I thought all the worry about Jason Garrett getting a head coaching job was overblown.
All that changed when Bill Parcells scratched his football itch. Suddenly, Sparano became a hot coaching candidate, and he ended up beating Garrett out of town. More on that from Hashmarks' Matt Mosley, who thinks Sparano to Miami could hurt the Cowboys more than Garrett to Baltimore/Atlanta/wherever.
Wade Phillips is under fire for being too soft on his players. Sparano, the assistant head coach this season, is a no-bull, no-excuses kind of guy.
"He just knows how to push the buttons," TE Jason Witten said Monday. "He understands how to get the most out of you, and at the same time he doesn't overdo it.
"The one thing that separates Tony from a lot of guys is he's going to figure it out, he's going to do whatever it takes to put you in a situation to be successful. There's no excuses, and there's no second-guessing. There's none of that. He's going to leave it on the line. And I think as a player knowing that your coach is doing everything possible to give you a chance to succeed, that's the biggest compliment you can ever give them."
Fair enough.
 

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Alexander;2560240 said:
I do not accept that explanation. Chris Simms would have actually been cheaper to acquire after he was cut. On draft day, we would have had to surrender draft choices. You know, like what we traded for Brooks Bollinger.

Not that it matters, but I don't think we traded anything for Bollinger. He was released and we signed him.

Yep, confirmed...


Bollinger came in for a visit with the team's staff last Tuesday, but didn't sign his minimum salary contract until today, a move that keeps the Cowboys from having to guarantee his base salary for the entire 2008 season. A five-year veteran, he started nine games for the Jets in 2005, the last of his three years in New York. He started one game last season, a Nov. 11 contest in Green Bay, as a fill-in for injured Minnesota starter Tarvaris Jackson.

He was cut by the Vikings on the final roster reduction date this year, ceding the No. 3 quarterback job in Minnesota to rookie John David Booty. A Rose Bowl winner at Wisconsin, Bollinger has started 10 NFL games with 201 completions on 343 passing attempts for 2,155 yards, eight touchdowns and eight interceptions. His career passing rating is 75.2.
 
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