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Andy Reid keeps on helping the Cowboys
Posted at 11:13 AM on Mon., Apr. 26, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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A lingering question from the draft: Why is Philadelphia coach Andy Reid so willing to help the Cowboys, an NFC East rival?

In this draft, Reid agreed to a deal that allowed the Cowboys to move up in the second round and select Penn State inside linebacker Sean Lee. The Cowboys indirectly added their first pick, Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant, from Philadelphia. The pick originally belonged to the Eagles, but Reid sent ti to Denver, which in turn traded it to New England before reaching the Cowboys.

In 2007, Reid gave a first-rounder to the Cowboys for picks in the second, third and fifth rounds. The Cowboys used that pick on outside linebacker Anthony Spencer, who had a breakthrough performance last season. The Eagles selected quarterback Kevin Kolb of Stephenville, middle linebacker Stewart Bradley and cornerback C.J. Gaddis. None of those picks made an impact for the Eagles last season, but Kolb is in line to replace the traded Donovan McNabb at quarterback.

Reid made another intra-division move with McNabb, trading him to Washington before the draft.

Reid's stock reply on trading within the division is that he cares only about improving his club. If that means dealing with a division rival, so be it, he says.
 
cowboyjoe;3375841 said:
Andy Reid keeps on helping the Cowboys
Posted at 11:13 AM on Mon., Apr. 26, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Gerry Fraley/Reporter Bio | E-mail | News tips


A lingering question from the draft: Why is Philadelphia coach Andy Reid so willing to help the Cowboys, an NFC East rival?

In this draft, Reid agreed to a deal that allowed the Cowboys to move up in the second round and select Penn State inside linebacker Sean Lee. The Cowboys indirectly added their first pick, Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant, from Philadelphia. The pick originally belonged to the Eagles, but Reid sent ti to Denver, which in turn traded it to New England before reaching the Cowboys.

In 2007, Reid gave a first-rounder to the Cowboys for picks in the second, third and fifth rounds. The Cowboys used that pick on outside linebacker Anthony Spencer, who had a breakthrough performance last season. The Eagles selected quarterback Kevin Kolb of Stephenville, middle linebacker Stewart Bradley and cornerback C.J. Gaddis. None of those picks made an impact for the Eagles last season, but Kolb is in line to replace the traded Donovan McNabb at quarterback.

Reid made another intra-division move with McNabb, trading him to Washington before the draft.

Reid's stock reply on trading within the division is that he cares only about improving his club. If that means dealing with a division rival, so be it, he says.


Now, in fairness to Reid, the 2007 moves that got us Spencer got him his new starting QB and his really good, young MLB who blew his knee out in training camp last year. Before that though, Bradley was a beast.
 
I guess Fraley didn't watch the second round. The Cowboys traded with the eagles to get Sean Lee. They actually got a great price just to move down a few spots and getting a 4th.
 
Andy Reid looks at moves that benefit his team...not how they benefit the other team. Even if it results in making trades with division rivals, it makes sense.
 
Is andy reid in charge of trades?

I honestly don't know if he has that power in the war room or if it goes through their GM and Owner.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3375914 said:
Is andy reid in charge of trades?

I honestly don't know if he has that power in the war room or if it goes through their GM and Owner.

If he doesn't I bet he's involved enough to at least check off on it. My guess is he's heavily involved.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3375914 said:
Is andy reid in charge of trades?

I honestly don't know if he has that power in the war room or if it goes through their GM and Owner.

Anyhow, I think it's more about helping themselves rather that trying to hurt a division foe.

Look at it this way. If you make the trade (because it's the best trade offer) You help yourself while helping a division foe. In that situation, you are better against 30 other teams, the one being a divisional foe.

By not doing it, you aren't helping them and you aren't helping yourself. In turn, you don't get something that can help you against the other 31 teams and neither does 1 other team who happens to be a divisional foe.

If I think it's in my best interest, I make the trade too.
 
cowboyjoe;3375841 said:
The Cowboys indirectly added their first pick, Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant, from Philadelphia. The pick originally belonged to the Eagles, but Reid sent ti to Denver, which in turn traded it to New England before reaching the Cowboys.

That's a real stretch to say that Reid was helping Dallas by trading away that pick. What's he supposed to do, attach a DO-NOT-TRADE-TO-DALLAS condition to the pick?
 
Because we're the only team in the division smart enough to offer a big ol bucket o KFC with all of our trade propositions ...
 
Generally speaking, I think it's cool that Reid trusts his own scouting department to out-evaluate his competition. If you trust yourself to negotiate value, and you trust your scouts to evaluate talent, you should trade with anybody.

On a side note, I suspect keeping Dez out of Baltimore might have had something to do with NE letting us leapfrog the Ravens relatively inexpensively. It's interesting to consider teams taking risks with their own draft boards in order to try to hinder teams in their own divisions or conferences. It's just another aspect of the stategery that makes the NFL draft so cool.
 
c0wb0y_m0nkey;3375970 said:
That's a real stretch to say that Reid was helping Dallas by trading away that pick. What's he supposed to do, attach a DO-NOT-TRADE-TO-DALLAS condition to the pick?

i just thought it was funny, what the writer wrote;

wouldnt it be funny if dez and now Lee comes back to bite the eagles in the rear end for years to come, and we all can thank andy reid for making it possible for us to have those players in trading with him.
 
Bradley is a beast though and Kolb is their starting QB. I think this article is a bit naiive.
 
The reality is, all teams are going to get better on draft day, regardless of where you pick. So, if you're going to deal, you might as well deal with WHOEVER is willing to give you the greatest return and simply worry about improving your team more than other teams.
 
Nonone knows what kind of career Brandon Graham will have, but don't forget that the Eagles passed on Earl Thomas last Thursday. IMO we dodged a bullet there.
 
Idgit;3375977 said:
Generally speaking, I think it's cool that Reid trusts his own scouting department to out-evaluate his competition. If you trust yourself to negotiate value, and you trust your scouts to evaluate talent, you should trade with anybody.

On a side note, I suspect keeping Dez out of Baltimore might have had something to do with NE letting us leapfrog the Ravens relatively inexpensively. It's interesting to consider teams taking risks with their own draft boards in order to try to hinder teams in their own divisions or conferences. It's just another aspect of the stategery that makes the NFL draft so cool.

This...
 
tar_heel16;3376009 said:
The reality is, all teams are going to get better on draft day, regardless of where you pick. So, if you're going to deal, you might as well deal with WHOEVER is willing to give you the greatest return and simply worry about improving your team more than other teams.

Al Davis, is that you?
 
Letting the Cowboys get back into the second round and draft the guy that pummeled McNabb in the defacto NFC East Title Game and the widcard playoff game wasn't a smart move on the Eagles' part. They could have picked Kolb later and kept their pick. It was an arrogant move.

But, hey.

I love it.

I'll keep trading with you.

Thanks for Sean Lee.

Even Tom Coughlin didn't get giving to McNabb to Washington.

Now, that was stupid.
 

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