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Cowboys got best of Brady Quinn deal

11:15 AM Tue, Sep 02, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
Tim MacMahon

With the Cowboys making a trip to Cleveland, I figured this would be a fine time to revisit the Browns-Cowboys blockbuster trade made on draft day 2007.


I had to back off calling it the Brady Quinn Con Job after it became clear that the Browns wouldn't deliver a top-five pick to Dallas. Jerry got an Arkansas running back out of the deal, but it was Felix Jones, not Darren McFadden.


But the trade is clearly paying more dividends in Dallas than Cleveland.
The Browns didn't know they had a young Pro Bowl passer on the roster when they pulled the trigger to get Quinn, who is a high-priced clipboard holder unless Derek Anderson goes down. Quinn should have some value if the Browns decide to deal him, but a rebuilding team doesn't give up two first-rounders to get a guy it will flip for picks down the road.


The Cowboys got two impact reserves out of the deal. As Greg Ellis has said over and over again, it's only a matter of time before OLB Anthony Spencer moves into the starting lineup. Felix Jones might never be a starter, but he'll provide a big-play threat with his 10-15 touches per game, and his versatility has Jason Garrett's creative juices flowing.



Tony Romo answered any questions about his status as a franchise quarterback last season, so Quinn would have been a wasted pick for the Cowboys. You could argue that the Cowboys would have been better off drafting WR Dwayne Bowe, but Jerry and Co. are rightfully pleased with the returns on the deal.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Personally, I feel the Cowboys got Mike Jenkins out of the deal, not Felix Jones. I think they would have gotten Jones anyhow. The fact that they got two picks is what gave them Jenkins. They just choose to take Jones first, Felix would have still been there when they took Jenkins.

 

[Pabst]

Nitpicking, but Cleveland only gave up one first round pick for Quinn. They gave up a second the year of the trade, and Dallas traded back up into the first round with Philly to select Spencer.

So, this article is not entirely accurate.

 

[Hoofbite]

Personally, I feel the Cowboys got Mike Jenkins out of the deal, not Felix Jones. I think they would have gotten Jones anyhow. The fact that they got two picks is what gave them Jenkins. They just choose to take Jones first, Felix would have still been there when they took Jenkins.

I don't know if they would have gotten Felix. Tennessee picked RB right after Dallas.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I don't know if they would have gotten Felix. Tennessee picked RB right after Dallas.

No, Pit did and they took Mendenhall and the Titans were after Chris Johnson from the get go. They wanted his speed to team with VY.

Speaking of that, I want to see VY and Chris Johnson run an option this season! :laugh2:

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Personally, I feel the Cowboys got Mike Jenkins out of the deal, not Felix Jones. I think they would have gotten Jones anyhow. The fact that they got two picks is what gave them Jenkins. They just choose to take Jones first, Felix would have still been there when they took Jenkins.

wrong Titans would have taken Jones.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Nitpicking, but Cleveland only gave up one first round pick for Quinn. They gave up a second the year of the trade, and Dallas traded back up into the first round with Philly to select Spencer.

So, this article is not entirely accurate.

well Cowboys would of not been close to being in position to move up like 7 spots to Eagles spot in the 1st without cleveland's 2nd pick in 2nd round. So not as inaccurate as you make it out to be, but I see where you were going with it.

 

[YosemiteSam]

wrong Titans would have taken Jones.

Ok Mr. Fisher.

 

[DallasEast]

Personally, I feel the Cowboys got Mike Jenkins out of the deal, not Felix Jones. I think they would have gotten Jones anyhow. The fact that they got two picks is what gave them Jenkins. They just choose to take Jones first, Felix would have still been there when they took Jenkins.

Just a couple of observations and info during the draft:

Exactly. At first, I was really disappointed in Jones picking Felix at #22. Then, what happened?

Steelers picked Mendenhall one pick later.

Titans picked Chris Johnson next.

If Jones HADN'T traded up to #25, Jenkins wouldn't have gotten past the Chargers. No way. They freaking reached some (sorry Hostile) for Antoine Cason at #27...

It's worse than that. During a Day Two draft/NFLN interview, Jeff Fisher himself said that the Titans were targeting Felix Jones. Felix Jones. Not Chris Johnson. That's from the horse's mouth.

HEAD COACH JEFF FISHER
(opening statements)

"Well, as you can see there was a lot of movement in the first round ahead of us and we got four or five picks away and we felt very good because we had three or four players that we were very excited about. A couple of them went ahead of us.


JEFF FISHER
(on if he was tempted to try and trade up to get Felix Jones)

"No, we were very content. We had numerous discussions comparing and contrasting both Felix and Chris. I’ll just say this: we’re very delighted to have an opportunity to draft Chris. We feel like Felix is going to have a great career. It was a great selection. I came in early this morning to look at both of them again. That’s how close we were. Both of them are very similar from the standpoint of what they do and how they do it. I’m going to let Cole Proctor talk about it because he’s seen him first hand."

http://www.titansonline.com/news/newsmain_detail.php?PRKey=5713

 

[DaBoys4Life]

:signmast:

Ok Mr. Fisher.

can't admit when your wrong

 

[CATCH17]

No, Pit did and they took Mendenhall and the Titans were after Chris Johnson from the get go. They wanted his speed to team with VY.

Speaking of that, I want to see VY and Chris Johnson run an option this season! :laugh2:

Goose Gosselin said NFL scouts told him there were only 22 players with 1st round grades and Felix Jones was one of them.

Supposedly Tennessee really like him too so who knows.

 

[YosemiteSam]

:signmast:




can't admit when your wrong

Ok, he said he wanted Felix Jones, just like Jerry tells us how he wants (enter name here).

btw, I can always admit when I'm wrong. ..but, first I have to be wrong :

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Ok, he said he wanted Felix Jones, just like Jerry tells us how he wants (enter name here).

btw, I can always admit when I'm wrong. ..but, first I have to be wrong :

If you don't think they would have taken him than thats you. Just because they didn't feel the need to trade up X amount of spots for him doesn't mean he wasn't a target of theirs.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Ok, he said he wanted Felix Jones, just like Jerry tells us how he wants (enter name here).

btw, I can always admit when I'm wrong. ..but, first I have to be wrong :

you're wrong

end of debates

 

[YosemiteSam]

Goose Gosselin said NFL scouts told him there were only 22 players with 1st round grades and Felix Jones was one of them.

Supposedly Tennessee really like him too so who knows.

I find that comment asinine. The top 32 players (31 for last years draft) have #1 grades. Everything is speculative. Ask these scouts where 7th round Marques Colston graded before he dropped 70 receptions and 1000+ yards in his rookie season. Where did they ranked Ryan Leaf or Ki-Jana Carter?

 

[YosemiteSam]

If you don't think they would have taken him than thats you. Just because they didn't feel the need to trade up X amount of spots for him doesn't mean he wasn't a target of theirs.

They very well could have taken him. I just remember how damn happy he appeared when they grabbed Chris Johnson. Either way, they had what appeared to be three damn good RBs to choose from which only two picks to be had in front of them. Either way, they were going to get one of the three.

 

[MONT17]

I wanna try. The titans would have drafted rick james but but since the cowboys took felix jones they settled for chris johnson. Oh and the chargers almost drafted dean cain but cason was on the board because the cowboys didn't want him.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

They very well could have taken him. I just remember how damn happy he appeared when they grabbed Chris Johnson. Either way, they had what appeared to be three damn good RBs to choose from which only two picks to be had in front of them. Either way, they were going to get one of the three.

Have you seen CJ play football. How could they not be happy??? Why would they be sad with their first round draft selection ??????

 

[YosemiteSam]

Have you seen CJ play football. How could they not be happy??? Why would they be sad with their first round draft selection ??????

I was high on the kid. Of course it doesn't hurt that my nephew plays for East Carolina Pirates. (FB #45 Kevin Gidrey) Though they have him listed as a TE on rivals.com.

 

[Pabst]

well Cowboys would of not been close to being in position to move up like 7 spots to Eagles spot in the 1st without cleveland's 2nd pick in 2nd round. So not as inaccurate as you make it out to be, but I see where you were going with it.

Not arguing that. But the article said Cleveland gave up two first round selections, when they simply did not. So, yes, it's very inaccurate, since part of the argument was that Cleveland gave up two first round selections to select a QB when they already had a Pro Bowler at the position.