DMN Blog: Flozell Adams will not be suspended;...*Fined $50,000-Post#31*

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well i just woke up from my little nap so thought id post some stuff for you zoners. woohoo eat that coughlin for trying to get flozell suspended!

Flozell Adams will not be suspended
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According to multiple sources, Flozell Adams will not be suspended by the NFL for his personal foul penalty Sunday against the New York Giants, however, he is likely to be fined for the fourth time this season.

"Flo and I will discuss the situation and determine what we will do," Adams' agent, Jordan Woy said. "The play was more complicated than people think. It's unfortunate that it happened and I don't believe it will be a problem in the future."

Adams has already been fined $25,000 for infractions in the first three games this year: $5,000 unnecessary roughness vs. Tampa Bay, $12,500 for a trip and attempted trip vs. the New York Giants and $7,500 for kicking Carolina's Julius Peppers.

Another infraction could result in a suspension. Adams would stand to lose nearly $59,000, or 1/17th of his $1 million base salary, if he is forced to sit out a week.

On Sunday, Adams pushed Giants defensive end Justin Tuck in the back as he ran downfield after a missed 57-yard field goal attempt. Adams tripped Tuck in the first meeting between the teams, resulting in Tuck hurting his shoulder. After the most recent game Tuck called Adams a "dirtbag," for the push that nearly caused a melee as the teams went into the locker room at halftime.




Had the Cowboys been forced to play Sunday against San Diego without Adams, they would have had to reconfigure their offensive line for the second time.

Already without right tackle Marc Colombo because of ankle surgery, the Cowboys could have moved Doug Free to the left side and inserted Pat McQuistan at right tackle. Right guard Leonard Davis could have been an option at left tackle, which would opened up a spot possibly for Montrae Holland to start at right guard.

In 2002, safety Darren Woodson was fined $75,000 by the NFL after a helmet-to-helmet hit on Seattle wide receiver Darrell Jackson. In 2007 safety Roy Williams was suspended a game in 2007 after his fourth horse-collar tackle penalty of the season after totaling $37,500 in fines.
 

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what Flo did happens all the time. he pushed a guy. it's not like he stopped someone's head or went at his knees. I can't help but laugh at all the "their's no place in football for what Flo did" remarks from the softies on this site. their's no place in football for a shove in the back yet their's a place in football to run full speed at a guy and lower your shoulder into their back? lol
 

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Eh...the Raiders used to do this kind of stuff all the time. Hell, they did worse. What did Matt Millen say in an interview once? "Rule #1, cheating is encouraged. Rule #2, see rule #1."

I'm not necessarily condoning cheap shots that get players injured; however, I think that I would like to see a bit more nastiness from our players. Most people think that all you have to do is punch the Cowboys in the face and they'll topple like a house of cards. I hate that reputation, and I think Adams does as well. At least he's trying to do something about it.
 

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Great news. I sincerely hope Flo is smarter in the future as the next transgression will likely result in a game off.
 

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The Dodger;3129814 said:
Eh...the Raiders used to do this kind of stuff all the time. Hell, they did worse. What did Matt Millen say in an interview once? "Rule #1, cheating is encouraged. Rule #2, see rule #1."

I'm not necessarily condoning cheap shots that get players injured; however, I think that I would like to see a bit more nastiness from our players. Most people think that all you have to do is punch the Cowboys in the face and they'll topple like a house of cards. I hate that reputation, and I think Adams does as well. At least he's trying to do something about it.

totally agree, i want our players to do the hitting in the mouth first and cause opposing team to fear us;
 

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The Dodger;3129814 said:
Eh...the Raiders used to do this kind of stuff all the time. Hell, they did worse. What did Matt Millen say in an interview once? "Rule #1, cheating is encouraged. Rule #2, see rule #1."

I'm not necessarily condoning cheap shots that get players injured; however, I think that I would like to see a bit more nastiness from our players. Most people think that all you have to do is punch the Cowboys in the face and they'll topple like a house of cards. I hate that reputation, and I think Adams does as well. At least he's trying to do something about it.

Nastiness does not mean cheap shots from behind. I'd far rather see him lock up Tuck and throw him to the ground after they were engaged in a play.
 

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AbeBeta;3129826 said:
Nastiness does not mean cheap shots from behind. I'd far rather see him lock up Tuck and throw him to the ground after they were engaged in a play.

Agreed. But it's definitely time to move on.
 

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It was stupid, and Adams should know better. It was a cheap shot.

Get him back between the white lines and do it legal.
 

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As much of a cheap shot as it was and I don't advocate this type of crappy sportsmanship, IT WAS FREAKING PUSH IN THE BACK!!! So get over it Tuck, you whiney womans body part!

BIG DEAL!!

A suspension would have been absolutely ridiculous.

The problem with this penalty is that the league should have had it set up so the Giants could have used the penalty yardage in the game by forcing Dallas to kickoff from the 15.

Fix that and save suspensions for things that really matter
 

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AbeBeta;3129826 said:
Nastiness does not mean cheap shots from behind. I'd far rather see him lock up Tuck and throw him to the ground after they were engaged in a play.
See below...

I'm not necessarily condoning cheap shots that get players injured
 

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Rampage;3129786 said:
what Flo did happens all the time. he pushed a guy. it's not like he stopped someone's head or went at his knees. I can't help but laugh at all the "their's no place in football for what Flo did" remarks from the softies on this site. their's no place in football for a shove in the back yet their's a place in football to run full speed at a guy and lower your shoulder into their back? lol

:bow: +1
 

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Flos' actions did not justify a suspension. No brainer.
 

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Agent says Flozell thought the play was going on
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 8, 2009 5:20 PM ET

The case of the Flozell Adams cheap shot has just gotten a little more strange, with Adams' agent now claiming that Adams didn't know the play was over when he pushed Justin Tuck in the back at the end of the first half of the Cowboys-Giants game.

"I have talked to the Cowboys and the league. The league is discussing it and we will find out tomorrow," Adams' agent Jordan Woy said of possible disciplinary actions. "Flo thought the play was still in action when the hit occurred."

Left unanswered is this: Even if we stipulate that Adams really did think the play was still in action, how would that justify giving an opponent a hard shove in the back away from the play?

There seems to be a growing consensus that there is no justification for what Adams did, and that the league needs to come down hard on Adams, who has already been fined three times by the NFL this season for four personal fouls, including two in one game the first time the Cowboys played the Giants.

However, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports that if the league is going to suspend Adams, it will likely announce the move today to give the Cowboys adequate practice time to prepare for his absence. So for the Cowboys, no news about Adams is good news about Adams.


Reports: Flozell Adams will not be suspended
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 8, 2009 6:18 PM ET

Dallas Cowboys offensive tackle Flozell Adams will not be suspended for shoving Giants defensive end Justin Tuck in the back on Sunday, according to two newspaper reports.

The Dallas Morning News and Newsday are both reporting that the NFL will not suspend Adams.

It should probably go without saying that the league is expected to fine Adams -- if there's no discipline at all for the play, it will basically serve as an invitation to every offensive player in the league to take all the cheap shots he wants at the end of the first half.

Because of a quirk in the league rules, personal fouls at the end of the final play of the first half aren't enforced at the start of the second half. Defensive players can't get away with personal fouls at the end of the half because the half can't end on a defensive penalty. But offensive players can.

At least, they can until the league discipline is handed out. For Adams, that league discipline appears to be a fine, not a suspension.

Source: Adams to be fined

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The NFL will not take disciplinary action against Cowboys offensive tackle Flozell Adams on Tuesday, a league source told ESPN.com's Matt Mosley.

Adams drew a personal foul at the end of Sunday's first half against the New York Giants.

He pushed Giants defensive end Justin Tuck in the back, sending him to the ground. Adams, through his agent Jordan Woy, told the league he thought the play was still alive.

Adams will likely avoid a suspension from the NFL, which normally notifies teams by Tuesday if a player will not be allowed to play in that week's game.

A source close to the situation told ESPNDallas.com's Calvin Watkins that a fine will be handed down on Friday.

Adams, who has a history of run-ins with the Giants, caused injury to Tuck in Week 2 when he stuck out his leg and tripped him, causing Tuck to fall to the ground and land on his shoulder.

In that same game, Adams kicked Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora. He was fined $12,500 for the two fouls.

One week earlier, in Dallas' season opener against Tampa Bay, Adams was fined $5,000 for unnecessary roughness.

After Sunday's game, Tuck lashed out at Adams.

"I laugh at stuff like that," he said. "It just just proves what kind of dirtbag he is."

When asked what happened at the end of the first half, Tuck said, "[The officials] blew the ball dead and I was headed toward the sidelines and pretty much had stopped. And somebody shoved me to the ground from the back and before I could get up he was [engulfed by] our sideline. So I didn't get to sneak any cheap shots in."

In the Cowboys' locker room after the Giants beat Dallas 31-24, Adams had this comment about Tuck: "I ain't talking about him. He's a nobody."

Information from Calvin Watkins of ESPNDallas.com, ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter and The Associated Press was included in this story.
 

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Coughlin did not ask for Flozell to be suspended, he wants a rule change about offensive penalties at the end of the first half.

He is correct and the rule will most likely be changed in the off season.
 

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AbeBeta;3129826 said:
Nastiness does not mean cheap shots from behind. I'd far rather see him lock up Tuck and throw him to the ground after they were engaged in a play.

He pushed him in the back, so what?

Man you people are whaa babies. People get pushed down from behind on kick/punt returns every week, should they be crucified too?
 
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dbair1967;3129913 said:
He pushed him in the back, so what?

Man you people are whaa babies. People get pushed down from behind on kick/punt returns every week, should they be crucified too?

Dump Truck got what he deserved. It's just that simple do you know how many Giants fans called for a severe injury vs Adams this year? Go onto any of their message boards, and you will see those bafoons calling for his head lol. Wah Wah get over it Giants fans your team gets the break the same way Indy, NE, and the Steelers do. Consider yourselfs lucky since the Refs love you.
 

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I'm absolutely astonished that some of you people are defending Flo in this. If a Giants' o lineman had done the same to DWare, this entire message board would be outraged. Flozell pulled a total ***** move, and he deserves all criticism he gets. As a Cowboys (and Romo) fan I'm glad Flo will still be in there, but he needs to control himself. He is embarrassing.
 

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dbair1967;3129913 said:
He pushed him in the back, so what?

Man you people are whaa babies. People get pushed down from behind on kick/punt returns every week, should they be crucified too?

It's not the extent of the risk of injury. It's the intent. It was bush-league, and it's not the kind of action Wade should turn a blind eye to. Not because Flo might have hurt Tuck, but because there was legitimate discussion of suspending a key player prior to the biggest game of the year over something that should never have happened in the first place. Mental errors and errors in judgement kill us. They've hurt us previously in games against these same Giants when we were the better team. I don't for the life of me understand excusing stupidity just because Tuck may or may not be an ***.
 
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