DMN Blog: Gerald Sensabaugh delivers message to Brett Favre

That would be under the thread: "finding ways to get extra motivated"....but it's "lame" too or maybe it's "narly" depending on perspective.
 
trueblue1687;3227818 said:
The same "linguistics" incorrectly termed one lazy english "style" as ebonics....implying that blacks all talk that way, which is far from the truth. It is simply a way to justify speaking like a bafoon. However, like it has been said prior...who cares? It's the person speaking who draws the attention and looks simple. No skin off my crack.
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The linguistic term that is preferred is actually B.E.V. (Black English Vernacular). No linguist i know of would imply most, much less, all blacks spoke that way. It is simply considered as a dialect of English.

What's interesting is that it actually has a lot of similarities with white southern speech patterns.
 
ethiostar;3227823 said:
His profession is playing football.

Not writing about it.

Not giving commentary on it?

If Mickey at DC starts writing that way then you would have a point.
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Fair enough...You are entitled to your opinion and I can respect that. I'm not trying to change your mind or convince you of anything differently...I can agree to disagree in this case. However, If you want to understand why I feel the complete opposite regarding this, you can refer back to my post near the bottom of the previous page.
 
7footer;3227836 said:
Hello trueblue,

I agree with what you said, except for the inference that his only applies to African-Americans and Ebonics. In fact, I believe the biggest culprits to be the young entertainers you see on television shows and music videos...Mostly young white celebrities and entertainers who have even invented a shorthand language that carries over from "texting". Gerald Sensabaugh may be using Ebonics in this particular case, but I believe the overall problem is much bigger!

Anyway..."How bout them Cowboys?!?" LOL
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Well, it's all ok anyway. Like I said, I couldn't care less how 43 talks as long as he picks a pass or two, breaks a WR in half, and allows no completions deep on Sunday.:D I doubt he'll be at the wine tasting or the chess championship, but he still plays pretty good ball. The way it looks from alot of folks on here, the amount of your income essentially places you in the upper crust. There's a name for that here in the hills of TN....but that's for another day. Peace and Chicken grease!:D
 
I've heard "might could" and "might can" here in Virginia before. While it might not be grammatically correct, it's probably just common language for some in the South.
 
ethiostar;3227845 said:
The linguistic term that is preferred is actually B.E.V. (Black English Vernacular). No linguist i know of would imply most, much less, all blacks spoke that way. It is simply considered as a dialect of English.

What's interesting is that it actually has a lot of similarities with white southern speech patterns.
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NOt that it makes me any better than the next guy, but neither of my parents went to college, but I hold a JD (hoorah, right?) and a MS as well and have spent my whole life in southern appalachia (Tn). I can honestly say there ain't (used it on purpose:D ) a damn thing about ebonics that is similar to white southern speech. That's just too funny!
 
trueblue1687;3227854 said:
Well, it's all ok anyway. Like I said, I couldn't care less how 43 talks as long as he picks a pass or two, breaks a WR in half, and allows no completions deep on Sunday.:D I doubt he'll be at the wine tasting or the chess championship, but he still plays pretty good ball. The way it looks from alot of folks on here, the amount of your income essentially places you in the upper crust. There's a name for that here in the hills of TN....but that's for another day. Peace and Chicken grease!:D
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LOL...I can't speak for anyone else...but I have four kids and a wife which = B-R-O-K-E!!!

However, I agree with you on the larger point of your point...I LOVE what Sensabaugh has done for us this season...He's been a great player and I think he'll be an important contributor on Sunday...And HOPEFULLY, going forward in the playoffs as well!
 
trueblue1687;3227860 said:
NOt that it makes me any better than the next guy, but neither of my parents went to college, but I hold a JD (hoorah, right?) and a MS as well and have spent my whole life in southern appalachia (Tn). I can honestly say there ain't (used it on purpose:D ) a damn thing about ebonics that is similar to white southern speech. That's just too funny!
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We're talking about linguistic rules and structure here. Phonology and Morphology stuff that might not be readily discernible to the casual listener.
 
ethiostar;3227880 said:
We're talking about linguistic rules and structure here. Phonology and Morphology stuff that might be not readily discernible to the casual listener.
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You don't have a buyer here...but it's cool. Better leave it to youguys on this one. I'm watching a replay of the Eagles slaughter and loving it. Better get back to work before my clients fire me.
 
7footer;3227743 said:
Why not? Good Lord...these are professional athletes who have (mostly) either graduated with a bachelors degree, or at least spent a few years in college. You would think Sensabaugh "might could" put together a sentence without blatant abuses to the English language.

I'm a HUGE fan of Sensabaugh and I was one of his biggest proponents when I heard he was signed as a free agent. I originally pointed out the grammar mistake because it was funny, but if I'm actually being challenged as to why I pointed it out, then that's not saying much for our expectations of how people should speak, is it? Regardless of whether or not this is English class...I'm simply saying, it's bad form. Are you actually going to argue that?
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As my step dad will say, Just because someone went to college doesn't mean they were the brightest bulb in the socket.
 
trueblue1687;3227884 said:
You don't have a buyer here...but it's cool. Better leave it to youguys on this one. I'm watching a replay of the Eagles slaughter and loving it. Better get back to work before my clients fire me.
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I didn't think i was trying to sell anything here. Just stating facts based on years of research conducted by linguists. I have nothing to gain by 'selling' this.

But thanks for reminding me about the replay of the game being on right now.

Enjoy!!
 
the kid 05;3227887 said:
As my step dad will say, Just because someone went to college doesn't mean they were the brightest bulb in the socket.
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My grandfather always liked to the the old "Some people are educated beyond their intelligence" quote.
 
NextGenBoys;3227870 said:
Good to know the team is as confident as the fans.

Vikings are toast.
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Am I the only one who is noticing the double standard here? We grill the opposing teams for saying they are going to win and call it "bulletin board material" but when one of our own says basically the same thing we call it confidence and use it as proof that we are going to win.

I'm not saying I don't agree with Sensy (because I do) but can we at least be consistent?
 
Sickwitit;3227780 said:
ohhhh you came to the right place, we have an english speaking expert on this board....please answer this professior fail!
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I'm not sure what's funnier with your response. The fact that you still decided to flame 7footer for something that he's absolutely right about or the fact that in doing so, you used incorrect grammar as well.


Hmmm, I'm going to go with the latter rather than the former as being hilarious considering that you edited your post and still chose to misspell the word "professor".

Liquid gold there. :laugh2:
 
ethiostar;3227798 said:
The other part of it is that, people use different variants of the English language on a daily basis. As in, we 'shift' our style of speech depending on the situation and the audience, its called 'style shifting' or 'code switching'.

For example, we use a different speech pattern when we talk with our buddies when watching football vs. when we speak with the pastor of a church. We are constantly switching between formal and informal patterns of speech throughout the day.

It is particularly evident with people who come from linguistically stigmatized groups like blacks, southerners and even New Yorkers. People learn Standard English for formal occasions but will switch back to the speech pattern they grew up with when among family, friends or other people from similar background.
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Sadly, this is true. I entered the Army in '82 with a full blown Texas accent and was wrongly labled for being "slow" because of it. The irony was that I was actually more intelligent than 98% of my platoon (based on our test scores) and yet, I consciously chose to drop my accent because first impressions were more important to me than trying to disparage the stereotype.

My values as a young man were misguided indeed.
 
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