DMN Blog: Is Roy a Coverage Liability?

theogt

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Is Roy really a coverage liability?

The Cowboys unveiled another defensive package that doesn't include perennial Pro Bowler Roy Williams during Thursday's win over the Packers.

Nate Jones took Williams' place in this version of the dime package. The dime that the Cowboys had used all season had essentially been a nickel with Williams manning one of the linebacker spots. I'm assuming the coaches thought Jones, the fourth cornerback on the roster, gave the Cowboys a better chance of matching up with the Packers' four- and five-receiver sets.

It was out of this package that Jones came flying off the left edge to blast Brett Favre, forcing an interception and knocking the Hall of Famer out of the game. So that proves that Williams ought to be off the field in all passing situations, right?

Not so fast. You actually might be surprised by the Packers' passing stats with and without Williams on the field. (Follow the jump to find out.)

Roy on field: 14-of-29, 142 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT (4.9 yards per attempt)
Roy on sideline: 9-of-11, 115 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT (10.5 yards per attempt)

Williams was on the sideline for 17 of the 65 snaps, including penalties, according to my count. Only five of the plays he watched came in the second half.

That's probably because the Packers exploited the Cowboys' new dime look on their touchdown drive just before halftime. Williams was on the sideline for both of Greg Jennings' big plays on that possession -- the 43-yard catch and run and 11-yard TD catch. Jones was responsible for covering Jennings on the 43-yarder, getting beat on a short out route and then overrunning the play to let Jennings get free.

I only saw one play that I considered poor pass coverage by Williams. That was a 22-yard reception by TE Donald Lee on the Packers' touchdown drive just after halftime. Other than that, he was very good in coverage against Green Bay. Part of the credit goes to the coaches for keeping Williams close to the line of scrimmage most of the game.

Williams was on the field for all 14 of Green Bay RB Ryan Grant's carries, including an ooooh!! hit that can be added to No. 31's highlight reel. He took a bad angle on Grant's 62-yard TD run, but nobody with any sense would want Williams benched when the opponent is running the ball.

Strange as it sounds, Jones appears to be a more effective blitzer than Williams. Jones had a hit on Green Bay's Aaron Rodgers and a sack against the Patriots. The impact plays by a blitzing Williams have been few and far between.

But the criticism of Williams has always focused on his coverage skills. The Cowboys aren't necessarily a better pass defense with him on the sideline, though. They definitely were not against the Packers.

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It's a fair point. The final sentence said plenty. I have my Roy Williams moments, too. I don't think he's as bad as advertised by some folks. IMO, he's a pretty good safety.

We could do a lot worse at strong. He was very good Thursday from where I sat. The manner in which he's used helps this defense quite a bit, at least I think so.
 

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IMO almost everyone on this board either over-rates or under-rates RW. He's not good in one on one coverege and lacks the range to play deep, but imo he's been one of the best in the box safties the last few years. Troy Polamalu, Bob Sanders, Rodney Harrison and Adrian Wilson all get beat and exposed in coverege, but are excellent with in a certain amount of space. Normally he's money tackling in the open field, which is why I wouldn't want Hamlin at SS, he took RW out on the Grant play and had a horrible game in week 1. My only problem with Roy is 0 sacks (although he isn't blitzing as much as I thought), 0 FF and only 2 ints. One thing I always thought about him is he's a play maker, thus far he isn't
 

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Roy never looks effective in his blitzes, he always gets blocked, I will say he has been pretty good in the run game recently though.
 

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Here we go again.
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Coakleys Dad;1804962 said:
Roy never looks effective in his blitzes, he always gets blocked, I will say he has been pretty good in the run game recently though.
I think if Roy had been in the play intead of Jones, the Packers would have shifted protection over to make sure somebody could at least chip Roy.

The fact that it was Jones was probably why the play was effective: they didn't expect Jones to come and/or gave no respect to the idea of Jones coming on the blitz.
 

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EPL0c0;1804978 said:
I think if Roy had been in the play intead of Jones, the Packers would have shifted protection over to make sure somebody could at least chip Roy.

The fact that it was Jones was probably why the play was effective: they didn't expect Jones to come and/or gave no respect to the idea of Jones coming on the blitz.
This is an excellent point.
 

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EPL0c0;1804978 said:
I think if Roy had been in the play intead of Jones, the Packers would have shifted protection over to make sure somebody could at least chip Roy.

The fact that it was Jones was probably why the play was effective: they didn't expect Jones to come and/or gave no respect to the idea of Jones coming on the blitz.

Brett looked through Jones like a window... he evn admitted this.

You are definitely right... when Roy is up on the LOS offense's are aware of this.

I don't blame them.
 

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ALo maybe roy was taken out on pass plays

thus when he is on the field and runs .. that changes the stats if jones is playing the more likely pass plays
 

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I actually have to agree with the poster who says Roy is not an effective (he is pretty good at the run blitz) pass blitzer.

When I use to see him blitz up the middle, he would get stuck, but that goes for the Linebackers as well, and to be honest, alot of that happened last year under Parcells' Scheme.

This year, when I have seen him blitz from the outside, it seems like he lets the Tackles get their hands on him a little too easy and push him to the outside. From a Laymen's perspective, I think he could be alot more effective if he works on some moves or techniques that doesn't allow the Tackles to get their hands on him as easy. He is a Safety, so I am not sure how difficult that would be.
 

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smarta5150;1805012 said:
Brett looked through Jones like a window... he evn admitted this.

You are definitely right... when Roy is up on the LOS offense's are aware of this.

I don't blame them.


Although it worked out for us, I'd rather teams adjust to Roy blitzing cause it could take away a blocker from another player. Catching teams off guard will only work so many times
 

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dallasfan;1805023 said:
Although it worked out for us, I'd rather teams adjust to Roy blitzing cause it could take away a blocker from another player. Catching teams off guard will only work so many times
And this actually happened last week, I believe on an Ellis sack. The tackle went to block Roy and Ellis blew by them on either a stunt or a delayed blitz.
 

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So, where are all of the witty retorts, calling someone "idiot," questioning of ones "footall knowledge," or flat out denials that we have come to expect from some of you (you know who you are)?

Mr MacMahon said the same things that some of us have said about Roy, i.e. bad angle on Grant's run and Roy on the sideline for 11 plays, but so far, not a peep outta you guys.

Typical.

Perhaps you might consider that some of may actually have a legitate point or two in our observations about Roy.
 

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Cowboyz88;1805063 said:
So, where are all of the witty retorts, calling someone "idiot," questioning of ones "footall knowledge," or flat out denials that we have come to expect from some of you (you know who you are)?

Mr MacMahon said the same things that some of us have said about Roy, i.e. bad angle on Grant's run and Roy on the sideline for 11 plays, but so far, not a peep outta you guys.

Typical.

Perhaps you might consider that some of may actually have a legitate point or two in our observations about Roy.

Obviously you and I read different articles.....
 

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One thing about N Jones on the blitz.

I remember after re-watching the game that on one of his blitzes he really put on a Hollywood act before the offense snapped the ball. He pretended he was going to blitz, and then he sort of moved to another location and just sort of pretended he was "looking around" or going on another assignment.

And then as soon as the ball was snapped . . . . Boom, he went right after Rodgers.

I just had to smile and thought to myself "that sneeky bastid"!

I like that the coaching staff is trying to disguise the blitzes in a variety of ways!
 

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All this article proves, is that whoever is replacing #31 when he's on the bench is even worse than #31. Like Williams, Nate Jones is very good against the run, very good blitzing and hitting, but horrific in pass coverage.
 

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Cowboyz88;1805063 said:
So, where are all of the witty retorts, calling someone "idiot," questioning of ones "footall knowledge," or flat out denials that we have come to expect from some of you (you know who you are)?

Mr MacMahon said the same things that some of us have said about Roy, i.e. bad angle on Grant's run and Roy on the sideline for 11 plays, but so far, not a peep outta you guys.

Typical.

Perhaps you might consider that some of may actually have a legitate point or two in our observations about Roy.
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CowboyJeff;1805089 said:
All this article proves, is that whoever is replacing #31 when he's on the bench is even worse than #31. Like Williams, Nate Jones is very good against the run, very good blitzing and hitting, but horrific in pass coverage.

Roy on field: 14-of-29, 142 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT (4.9 yards per attempt)

Dunno about you.....but I would love it if opposing QBs constantly had this type of day against us.........
 
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