DMN Blog: Jerry Jones: It isn't Super Bowl or bye-bye for Wade Phillips

[Velvet Jones]

So we got a former Cowboys head coach and former defensive coordinator in Campo, Wade Phillips, former NFL defensive coordinator and current head coach of the Cowboys, and Jason Garrett the future head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I'm pretty sure they can find a way to stay under the same umbrella without imploding.

That would be fantastic. That and everyone at CowboysZone gets a pony!

 

[festus]

He also said awhile back that Terry Glenn looked sharp and was going to surprise people once he got back on the field.

It's wades last season as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys!!!

 

[Tovya]

That would be fantastic. That and everyone at CowboysZone gets a pony!

Hey, Garrett knows his role and agreed to stay in it, and Campo came in on his own free will so who can possibly say that I am wrong?

They know that Wade is the head coach, and I promise you that a Superbowl will only remind them that each of their roles is exactly what it is, and right where they are supposed to be.

But if the team can't take it to the next level, of course that would change everything... but that's next off-seasons problem...

This season is all about knowing who the coach is today and worrying about next season.. well, next season.

 

[bbgun]

I'll try to remember these words when he's standing at a podium next February, introducing a new head coach.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I thought the whole Dom Capers fiasco was especially odd. He was going to get a "consulting" gig in Dallas to help out the defense because he was Jason's guy from Miami? That's some chutzpah from Garrett.

I can't see Josh McDaniels going to Robert Kraft and telling him that the Patriots need to bring in another defensive coordinator to help Bill Belichick out.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

You know... this could also mean that it doesn't matter if Wade wins the Superbowl. That Garrett will be the HC no matter what next season. Lol. I'm just sayin'......

Jerry Jones chooses his wrods wisely. If he has already decided that Jason Garrett will be the head coach next year, then Jerry's quote above still holds true (i.e. winning the Super Bowl would not be a criteria for whether or not Wade Phillips keeps his job because Jerry Jones has already decided that the Job is next year is Jason Garrett's, making Jones' decision the critera).

So witrh a quote like this, Jerry says nothing but creates the impression that Phillips has job security so that he can coach more pressure-free this season.

LOL true.

So, what you are saying is that he wan't to keep Wade on as Defensive Coordinator after he promotes Garrett??

Take away the title's and THAT is... in effect... what you have now.

 

[Tovya]

LOL true.




Take away the title's and THAT is... in effect... what you have now.

Very true... that's all he is now anyway.

Either way, no one really knows what direction Jerry plans to head probably because Jerry doesn't really know at this point.

Even if Wade leads us to the promised land, I certainly wouldn't be bold enough to guarantee a return of Phillips at the helm... with JJ, you never really know.

Really, with NFL coaches you never really know anyway... Tony Dungy was a fine NFL coach out in Tampa Bay, got replaced by Gruden and Gruden won it all the next year... and then a few years later, the fired Dungy (who went to Indy the subsequent season) won a Superbowl there.

I'd take Dungy all day long over John Gruden (who I think is well overrated anyway). Dungy is one of the great coaches in mine and a lot of other peoples' books, but he still got the boot...

And hitting closer to home, should I dare mention Landry and Johnson's exoduses at the hands of a crazed Jerry Jones? It doesn't matter if you win it all or are a hall of fame legend to him... he'll still strap on the boots and give it to you in your rear end if he feels like it.

 

[Velvet Jones]

Take away the title's and THAT is... in effect... what you have now.

Heh. True... true..

 

[Bob Sacamano]

guys, Phillips only has 2 years remaining on his deal, 1 after this one

it's not like the guy's in the 2nd year of a 10-year deal

do the math

if he doesn't win the Super Bowl, he isn't getting canned, but he's not going to see an extension

 

[Tovya]

guys, Phillips only has 2 years remaining on his deal, 1 after this one

it's not like the guy's in the 2nd year of a 10-year deal

do the math

if he doesn't win the Super Bowl, he isn't getting canned, but he's not going to see an extension

That's another good point as well... so like I said... who really knows what the future holds? This is Jerry's team, and Jerry's gotta do what Jerry wants to do... for better or worse.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Either way, no one really knows what direction Jerry plans to head probably because Jerry doesn't really know at this point.

Even if Wade leads us to the promised land, I certainly wouldn't be bold enough to guarantee a return of Phillips at the helm... with JJ, you never really know.

Really, with NFL coaches you never really know anyway... Tony Dungy was a fine NFL coach out in Tampa Bay, got replaced by Gruden and Gruden won it all the next year... and then a few years later, the fired Dungy (who went to Indy the subsequent season) won a Superbowl there.

I'd take Dungy all day long over John Gruden (who I think is well overrated anyway). Dungy is one of the great coaches in mine and a lot of other peoples' books, but he still got the boot...

And hitting closer to home, should I dare mention Landry and Johnson's exoduses at the hands of a crazed Jerry Jones? It doesn't matter if you win it all or are a hall of fame legend to him... he'll still strap on the boots and give it to you in your rear end if he feels like it.

Jerry cant HONESTLY give an answer right now. Everything is situational in life in general... forget about for the owner of the Dallas Cowboys.

I disagree a little on 2nd bold. I think even Jerry would be a little skiddish to pull a Jimmy Johnson Part Deux

I am little conflicted about Dungy and Gruden. Both won it in weird ways for lack of a better way of saying it. Gruden knew the Raiders and the plays and org etc. Dungy lucked out... his team came back from what was the beginning of another burial by the Pats and lucked out and won. The Bears...well... them da Bears.


I think Dungy is a good guy. A good coach... thats it though.
I think if Gruden had the Colts they prob have another SB.

 

[Doomsday101]

Jerry cant HONESTLY give an answer right now. Everything is situational in life in general... forget about for the owner of the Dallas Cowboys.

I disagree a little on 2nd bold. I think even Jerry would be a little skiddish to pull a Jimmy Johnson Part Deux

I am little conflicted about Dungy and Gruden. Both won it in weird ways for lack of a better way of saying it. Gruden knew the Raiders and the plays and org etc. Dungy lucked out... his team came back from what was the beginning of another burial by the Pats and lucked out and won. The Bears...well... them da Bears.


I think Dungy is a good guy. A good coach... thats it though.
I think if Gruden had the Colts they prob have another SB.

What was strange is Gruden the offensive guru did it mainly with the Tampa Defense and Dungy the defensive guru did it with Peyton Manning and the offense.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

What was strange is Gruden the offensive guru did it mainly with the Tampa Defense and Dungy the defensive guru did it with Peyton Manning and the offense.

Yeah... he TOLD the Bucs defense what was coming on his prior Raiduh offense.
Exactamundo!!


Dungy piggybacked Manning and his luck.
LOL

 

[Tovya]

I disagree a little on 2nd bold. I think even Jerry would be a little skiddish to pull a Jimmy Johnson Part Deux

I actually don't think it would happen again like that... but it's not out of the realm of possibilities. I remember when all that mess hit the fan on Jimmy back then and channel 8 news busted in with the breaking report...

I really thought it was a big joke because they had spent months playing down the reports that their was a rift between him and Jerry.

Anyway, Wade Phillips will bow over to anything Jerry says anyway, so he's not in any danger... Wade has that agreeable personality that Jimmy lacked.

 

[The Panch]

What's funny is how so many people are certain Garrett's even ready to be a coach. He barely had his first season as an OC last year and will have his first season as an AC this year. What's he done to prove he's ready to take over? Call plays for a high scoring offense with multiple elite at their position players that already put up big points the year before? He proved multiple times with his play calling that he still has a lot to learn about running an offense, much less running a team.

 

[Tovya]

What's funny is how so many people are certain Garrett's even ready to be a coach. He barely had his first season as an OC last year and will have his first season as an AC this year. What's he done to prove he's ready to take over? Call plays for a high scoring offense with multiple elite at their position players that already put up big points the year before? He proved multiple times with his play calling that he still has a lot to learn about running an offense, much less running a team.

Very true... certainly another factor to consider.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

I don't know why I'm feeling constructive today... but, oh well.

A lot of coaches in the NFL don't have their jobs hinge on being competitive. Coaches catch more flak for things that are beyond their control.

For example, Marty Schottenheimer got canned for having a competitive team that couldn't make it over the hump. In his defense, the top-tier competition in the AFC is pretty steep and perennial contenders. That Chargers team didn't need a passing attack because of LT and that defense was stout enough to make a deep run. It was their lack of experience on offense [Philip Rivers] that cost Schottenheimer his job. Rivers wasn't ready to lead the team when it mattered.

If the exodus continues, this will be the case with Tony Romo. A great, young QB whose inexperience will not allow his team to move to the Big Game.

If Super Bowl or Bust is the case with all teams that can contend, Tony Dungy would have been fired a LONG *** time ago because they could never get past New England.

So, the gist of what I'm saying is that Jerry Jones isn't being polite. He could very well keep Wade Phillips around but he will cut him loose when he's had plenty of chances to find success. You can't two-and-through him right now. He needs a chance to build confidence in an already tough to improve team.

I see where you are coming from but I find it hard to agree. I feel that when a team does not play to its potential it somewhat is the coaches fault. If you cannot find success or improve from the season prior, something needs to give. I'm not saying this is make or break for Wade, however you do only get so many chances. The problem I have with Garret taking over is that I'm not sure he has worked with enough people in the NFL to put together a strong coaching staff if need be.

The expectations could not be any higher and thats sucks for Wade.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Jerry would probably love nothing more than for Wade to win a Superbowl and give Jerry the excuse to keep him around as the HC, because Wade is easy to work with and let's Jerry run amok and do as he pleases. The back of Jerry's cheek probably still stings from when Parcells had to slap him around a few times.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Jerry would probably love nothing more than for Wade to win a Superbowl and give Jerry the excuse to keep him around as the HC, because Wade is easy to work with and let's Jerry run amok and do as he pleases. The back of Jerry's cheek probably still stings from when Parcells had to slap him around a few times.

You take the good with the bad when your considering Jerry.

 

[Tovya]

I see where you are coming from but I find it hard to agree. I feel that when a team does not play to its potential it somewhat is the coaches fault. If you cannot find success or improve from the season prior, something needs to give. I'm not saying this is make or break for Wade, however you do only get so many chances. The problem I have with Garret taking over is that I'm not sure he has worked with enough people in the NFL to put together a strong coaching staff if need be.

The expectations could not be any higher and thats sucks for Wade.

I'm with you on this... Especially on Garrett issue. He really hasn't had long enough to build the bonds to bring in underlings who would respect him enough at the helm. If you ask me, he needs 2 or 3 more years at the very least. Who really knows though... he could pull it off... but hopefully we won't have to find out too soon.