DMN Blog: Kevin Burnett has hard feelings about departure from Dallas

Alexander

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Hostile;2715661 said:
He wasn't "given" a chance? Great players make teams "give" them a chance.

Exactly.

I don't have sympathy for the Kevin Burnett's of this league.

It is not like he wasn't coming here as a heralded prospect. He was a second round choice who I know Coach Parcells had specific plans for. He couldn't stay healthy and above all else, he did not make himself indispensible. That is what great players do. The rest are pretty much like him.

Bobby Carpenter is in the same boat. I don't want to hear about a lack of opportunities.

Signing players like Zach Thomas and now Keith Brooking were necessitated by high draft choices like Burnett not stepping up and making themselves valuable. It was not about a lack of opportunities.

He can also look at the fact that he was not exactly a prime free agent target of a lot of clubs as an indication of his career worth thus far.
 

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It isn't about lack of playing time for guys like Burnett and Carpenter, its that they never excelled.
 

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TheCount;2715710 said:
You know what he means, and he's right.

Who was the last player to win a starting job here over an incumbant starter? Nobody won Roy's job, Nobody won Julius Jones' Job, Nobody won Patrick Craytons job, Nobody won Greg Ellis' job till they just handed it to Spencer, Nobody won Anthony Henry's job. Nobody could even be found to beat Nate Jones and Jacques Reeves in fair competition till their contracts were up. Ratliff couldn't even beat out Jason Ferguson till he got injured after playing just 1 game all season.

Burnett isn't a great player, that's true. But at this point neither is Keith Brooking, and we all know that if Burnett had stayed, Brooking would be the starter.

Zach Thomas "won" the starting job here over Burnett, for what? He didn't even like the position Burnett actually WANTS to play. It took Barber years of beating people up to get his shot to start, and Julius' contract had to expire for that to happen.

This team is not exactly known for giving the underdog a real shot to upset the established guy, unless we bring someone in from somewhere else. Here, starting jobs are assigned, not won.


I hear what you are saying.

Mike Jenkins should have started last year, imvso. At the very least, he should have taken over for Anthony Henry at some point, like Kevin Smith did in 1992. Other teams would have let Jenkins know that it was his job to win. I don't think the Cowboys saw it like that, imo. Jenkins could have taken that job, but Phillips didn't even start Shawn Marion, and Parcells didn't mind not playing high picks. I think that is a mistake, imo. There has been a reluctance to start rookies in Dallas, imo, for these two reasons.

Bobby Carpenter was drafted (#18) for insurance, I guess. I guess they thought that they could move him inside. That is an expensive insurance policy, imo.

Felix Jones was one of Dallas' best players (so was Mike Jenkins) the day he was drafted, but we saw the reluctance to play him. If Barber doesn't get hurt in Cleveland, you don't see Felix in that game, imo. How he destroyed the Packers and didn't touch the ball against Washington is still beyond me. It's just dumb. Tashard Choice was kept in the cooler too long last year. He could have played some more, too.

Anthony Spencer was playing very well in 2007 when Ellis came back. Ellis was productive, but Spencer's time got slashed, big time. Dallas got one more productive year out of Ellis, but the younger player's development was blocked. Phillips even stated that he should have played Anthony Spencer more in 2007. Ellis' production dropped off big time last year, imo. (3 sacks in the first 10 games and 2 sacks against the Giants' backup RT in December skewed his 8 sack total) Now, Spencer got hurt, so the Cowboys needed Ellis last year. He was coming off a double digit sack year, so I understand why they kept him. However, why was Ellis even playing at all when Spencer got healthy? Are 3 sacks in 10 games enough to keep pulling Spencer off the field, especially on third down? I don't thnk other teams would have done it. Letting Ellis "start" games was weak, imo. Whose team is it? (Ellis' or Phillips')

As far as Kevin Burnett is concerned, he saw the likes of Scott Shanlee, that guy from the Cheifs, and Ryan Fowler. Are guys like that worth blocking a number 2 pick? No. Now, I don't think Burnett ever fit Parcells' style of defense. I don't know why he even drafted him. It's clear Dallas doesn't think he is a starter, so I wish him luck in S.D. Burnett only missed a couple of games while in Dallas. I think the Chargers will benefit from Burnett's play, and Jammal Williams will help Burnett's play. Don't underestimate his role in pass coverage. The Cowboys were number 5 against the pass, and Brooking is a big down grade. Carpenter isn't close to Burnett in terms of speed.


Other teams like, draft, and play their young, high picks. They don't block them. In the past, Dallas has seemed to overrate players like Anthony Henry or Greg Ellis, and they block young, high picks from starting or playing. That blocks growth and development. Then, you don't "win the Super Bowl", and you start the next year, and your rookies could have more experience under their belt if you would have played them.

Also, the media and fans start saying "Lamar Woodley is dong this or that". "Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is doing that". Yeah, they did this or that, but they were not sitting on the bench for Greg Ellis or Anthony Henry. They were playing, and I don't know the third rusher for the Steelers' name.

Just my opinion.
 

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CATCH17;2715645 said:
He deserved an opportunity but unfortunately he didn't get a chance.

A lot of that had to do with his tackling abilities.

I appreciate the job he did while he was here. He was a good player for us.

Thank you for not being like every other fan who does nothing but badmouth former players.

Dude was a solid player for us who I was hoping we'd keep. Injuries happen, I dont know why people hold that against him. I will not be shocked at all to see him put up good numbers in SD
 

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41gy#;2715812 said:
I hear what you are saying.

Mike Jenkins should have started last year, imvso. At the very least, he should have taken over for Anthony Henry at some point, like Kevin Smith did in 1992. Other teams would have let Jenkins know that it was his job to win. I don't think the Cowboys saw it like that, imo. Jenkins could have taken that job, but Phillips didn't even start Shawn Marion, and Parcells didn't mind not playing high picks. I think that is a mistake, imo. There has been a reluctance to start rookies in Dallas, imo, for these two reason.

Bobby Carpenter was drafted (#18) for insurance, I guess. I guess they thought that they could move him inside. That is an expensive insurance policy, imo.

Felix Jones was one of Dallas' best players (so was Mike Jenkins) the day he was drafted, but we saw the reluctance to play him. If Barber doesn't get hurt in Cleveland, you don't see Felix in that game, imo. How he destroyed the Packers and didn't touch the ball against Washington is still beyone me. It's just dumb. Tashard Choice was kept in the cooler too long last year. He could have plays some more, too.

Anthony Spencer was playing very well in 2007 when Ellis came back. Ellis was productive, but Spencer's time got slashed, big time. Dallas got one more productive year out of Ellis, but the younger player's development was blocked. Phillips even stated that he should have played Anthony Spencer more in 2007. Ellis' production dropped off big time last year, imo. (3 sacks in the first 10 games and 2 sacks against the Giants' backup RT in December skewed his 8 sack total) Now, Spencer got hurt, so the Cowboys needed Ellis last year. He was coming off a double digit sack year, so I understand why they kept him. However, why was Ellis even playing at all when Spencer got healthy? Are 3 sacks in 10 games enough to keep pulling Spencer off the field, especially on third down? I don't thnk other teams would have done it. Letting Ellis "start" games was weak, imo. Whose team is it? (Ellis' or Phillips')

As far as Kevin Burnett is concerned, he saw the likes of Scott Shanlee that guy from the Cheifs, and Ryan Fowler. Are guys like that worth blocking a number 2 pick? No. Now, I don't think Burnett ever fit Parcells' style of defense. I don't know why he even drafted him. It's clear Dallas doesn't think he is a starter, so I wish him luck in S.D. Burnett only missed a couple of games while in Dallas. I think the Chargers will benefit from Burnett's play and Jammal Williams.


Other teams like, draft, and play their young, high picks. They don't block them. In the past, Dallas has seemed to overrate players like Anthony Henry or Greg Ellis, and they block young, high picks from starting or playing. That blocks growth and development. Then, you don't "win the Super Bowl", and you start the next year, and your rookies could have more experience under their belt if you play them.

Also, the media and fans start saying "Lamar Woodley is dong this or that". "Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie is doing that". Yeah, they did this or that, but they were not sitting on the bench for Greg Ellis or Anthony Henry. They were playing, and I don't know the third rusher for the Steelers' name.

Just my opinion.

Fantastic post. You speak nothing but truth.
 

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Hostile;2715661 said:
He never lived up to my hopes and expectations.

He wasn't "given" a chance? Great players make teams "give" them a chance.

Earn it Kevin.


Truer words have never been spoken.

I have yet to meet a coach who would sit their best players. Hell even the Tuna pulled his favorite soon so that Romo could start.
 

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Alexander;2715772 said:
Exactly.

I don't have sympathy for the Kevin Burnett's of this league.

It is not like he wasn't coming here as a heralded prospect. He was a second round choice who I know Coach Parcells had specific plans for. He couldn't stay healthy and above all else, he did not make himself indispensible. That is what great players do. The rest are pretty much like him.

Bobby Carpenter is in the same boat. I don't want to hear about a lack of opportunities.

Signing players like Zach Thomas and now Keith Brooking were necessitated by high draft choices like Burnett not stepping up and making themselves valuable. It was not about a lack of opportunities.

He can also look at the fact that he was not exactly a prime free agent target of a lot of clubs as an indication of his career worth thus far.
Preach it Brother Alex!

Did Jay Ratliff have his job handed to him? Heck no, he took it.
 

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WoodysGirl;2715612 said:
LB Kevin Burnett felt the Cowboys disrespected him


Not as bad as McNabb did on the 5 yd line...
 

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adbutcher;2715842 said:
Truer words have never been spoken.

I have yet to meet a coach who would sit their best players. Hell even the Tuna pulled his favorite soon so that Romo could start.
Going off topic to spout one of my agendas.

You saw it with every coach Barry sanders had. Near the goal line he was not their best option and they took him out so they had a better chance to score.

Most Coaches aren't stupid.
 

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TheCount;2715710 said:
You know what he means, and he's right.

Who was the last player to win a starting job here over an incumbant starter? Nobody won Roy's job, Nobody won Julius Jones' Job, Nobody won Patrick Craytons job, Nobody won Greg Ellis' job till they just handed it to Spencer, Nobody won Anthony Henry's job. Nobody could even be found to beat Nate Jones and Jacques Reeves in fair competition till their contracts were up. Ratliff couldn't even beat out Jason Ferguson till he got injured after playing just 1 game all season.

Burnett isn't a great player, that's true. But at this point neither is Keith Brooking, and we all know that if Burnett had stayed, Brooking would be the starter.

Zach Thomas "won" the starting job here over Burnett, for what? He didn't even like the position Burnett actually WANTS to play. It took Barber years of beating people up to get his shot to start, and Julius' contract had to expire for that to happen.

This team is not exactly known for giving the underdog a real shot to upset the established guy, unless we bring someone in from somewhere else. Here, starting jobs are assigned, not won.
Its hard to get out of the dog house when you make a stupid personal foul right before the half of a game and it eventually cost us the game. Maybe his attitude has just as much to do with it as his ability.
 

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tomson75;2715615 said:
You're in SD now?

Break a leg!

Knowing KB he'll probably do just that, hence why he never had a chance here...
 

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These guys all think that because they are talented they should be GIVEN a starting position. Well dudes, that might happen in college but it doesn't work that way in the NFL.

If you want playing time you have to earn it in practice. When coaches see a guy go out and dominate in practice then they will find a way to get him on the field. Then you have to go out and take advantage of those opportunities you get on special teams and nickle packages. You do that and you get to start. Otherwise you get to stay on those ST and nickle sets or you sign with another team.
 

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WoodysGirl;2715612 said:
2:04 PM Fri, Apr 03, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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T.O. isn't the only ex-Cowboy who didn't appreciate the way he was treated on his way out the Valley Ranch door this off-season.

LB Kevin Burnett, who signed a two-year, $5.5 million deal with the Chargers, felt the Cowboys disrespected him by signing Keith Brooking before trying to get a deal done with him.

"What other choice did I have but to leave?" Burnett told the North County (Calif.) Times. "They brought in another linebacker and then they tried to sign me, which to me was a slap in the face. On top of that, they wanted me to sign the same kind of deal, and I wasn't willing to do that."

Burnett also wasn't pleased with the fact that he was never given an opportunity to win a starting job with the Cowboys. The former second-round pick's contributions came in defensive sub packages and on special teams.

"They pigeonholed me into a certain role. There's no doubt about that," Burnett said. "It was frustrating, which is why I'm looking forward to this fresh start."

The Cowboys might miss Burnett, who was their best coverage linebacker and special teams player. But time will tell if Burnett, who got banged up a lot, is right that he's worthy of a larger role.



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Huh..... I thought Brooking was signed to replace Thomas. Doesn't really matter. I don't think many of us will be missing Burnett all that much.
 

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Hostile;2715661 said:
He never lived up to my hopes and expectations.

He wasn't "given" a chance? Great players make teams "give" them a chance.

Earn it Kevin.

I agree with that. Great players simply will not be denied.
 

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I think it was apparent from the day he was drafted he was going to be gone after his rookie contract was up.
 

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The whole Burnett injury thing is a bit overrated. Over his time with Dallas he didn't really miss all that many games do to injury.
 

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slick325;2715690 said:
He got ample playing time and performed pretty well in his role.

No he didn't. He consistently allowed backs and TE to amke plays and he made virtually no plays himself. Other than that single INT he got off a tipped ball I cannot think of a single play he made. I do remember the Seahawks TE looking like an allpro though.

The guy was at best below average.
 
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