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Cbz40

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Mea culpa

8:53 PM Mon, Dec 31, 2007 | Permalink
Albert Breer


Earlier in the day, I wrote that the Cowboys will have the 20th pick in the draft. That's wrong. It'll be 21st or 22nd.


Here's the discrepancy: I placed the Browns -- the non-playoff team with the best record -- at 20th, behind the 12 teams that made the playoffs.


The Cleveland pick actually gets placed behind the two 9-7 playoff teams, Tampa Bay and Washington. Now, if either the Bucs or Commanders advance to the Super Bowl, then the pick will be 21st.


As for the second of the picks, it'll be either 28th, 29th, 30th or 31st. If neither the Colts nor the Patriots represent the AFC in the Super Bowl, and the Cowboys don't go, the pick will be 28th. If the Colts go to the Super Bowl and the Cowboys don't, the pick will be 29th. If the Patriots are there and the Cowboys aren't, or if the Cowboys lose in the Super Bowl, the pick will be 30th. If Dallas wins it or loses to New England there, the pick will be 31st.



Complicated? It won't be so much once the playoffs sort themselves out. And as a special gift, since I screwed it up the first time, here's who's gone 21st and 22nd overall over the last five years.


2003
21 -- Browns: Notre Dame C Jeff Faine
22 -- Bears: Florida QB Rex Grossman
2004
21 -- Patriots: Miami DT Vince Wilfork
22 -- Bills: Tulane QB J.P. Losman
2005
21 -- Jaguars: Arkansas QB/WR Matt Jones
22 -- Ravens: Oklahoma WR Mark Clayton
2006
21 -- Patriots: Minnesota RB Laurence Maroney
22 -- 49ers: N.C. State DE/OLB Manny Lawson
2007
21 -- Jaguars: Florida S Reggie Nelson
22 -- Browns: Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn
 

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Complicated? It won't be so much once the playoffs sort themselves out. And as a special gift, since I screwed it up the first time, here's who's gone 21st and 22nd overall over the last five years.


2003
21 -- Browns: Notre Dame C Jeff Faine
22 -- Bears: Florida QB Rex Grossman
2004
21 -- Patriots: Miami DT Vince Wilfork
22 -- Bills: Tulane QB J.P. Losman
2005
21 -- Jaguars: Arkansas QB/WR Matt Jones
22 -- Ravens: Oklahoma WR Mark Clayton
2006
21 -- Patriots: Minnesota RB Laurence Maroney
22 -- 49ers: N.C. State DE/OLB Manny Lawson
2007
21 -- Jaguars: Florida S Reggie Nelson
22 -- Browns: Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn

We need to freakin' trade up!
 

Eddie

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Rack;1871503 said:
We need to freakin' trade up!

Nope. We need to take the best player available with those picks.
 

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I wouldn't mind trading our last 1st and our 2nd to Atlanta, for both of their 2nds.

This way we would pretty much still be able to get a highly rated WR, CB, and RB....

1 - WR Adarius Bowman
2 - RB Chris Johnson
2 - CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
 

Alexander

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Rack;1871503 said:
We need to freakin' trade up!

This would be a huge amateurish mistake.

That said, I fully expect it.
 

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3rd time in five years the Cowboys will have the 22nd pick and the first two they traded down.
 

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Alexander;1871619 said:
This would be a huge amateurish mistake.

That said, I fully expect it.

Until we are actually DOING the draft, making blanket statements of trading up or trading down is pointless. One NEVER knows how this thing pans out. Players fall every year, teams ahead and behind you have diferent needs, FA etc.
 

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Cbz40;1871490 said:
If the Patriots are there and the Cowboys aren't, or if the Cowboys lose-to a team other than the Patriots-in the Super Bowl, the pick will be 30th. If Dallas wins it or loses to New England there, the pick will be 31st.

Is this what he meant?
 

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I would like to see Jerry to be a little active in the offseason and sure up some holes/possible holes in FA. Then in the draft we would have flexibility to do more what we want to.

Personally I'd like to follow the Patriots' line of thinking. They usually have 2 first rounders because they'll take one of the first rounders and draft a player they like/need/want. Then there's bound to be some team that will given them a first rounder and say a fourth rounder for the next draft for the other first rounder of theirs.

It provides a lot of security, flexibility, and sort of allows the Pats to manipulate the draft to their advantage. I think it would draw the ire of a lot of Cowboys fans if Jones did this, but I wouldn't mind it one bit.





YAKUZA
 

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Yakuza Rich;1871765 said:
I would like to see Jerry to be a little active in the offseason and sure up some holes/possible holes in FA. Then in the draft we would have flexibility to do more what we want to.

Personally I'd like to follow the Patriots' line of thinking. They usually have 2 first rounders because they'll take one of the first rounders and draft a player they like/need/want. Then there's bound to be some team that will given them a first rounder and say a fourth rounder for the next draft for the other first rounder of theirs.

It provides a lot of security, flexibility, and sort of allows the Pats to manipulate the draft to their advantage. I think it would draw the ire of a lot of Cowboys fans if Jones did this, but I wouldn't mind it one bit.





YAKUZA

those are good points YR

i think our biggest needs are CB, RB, WR. this is assuming either that ferguson comes back healthy or that spears/johnson combo can spell rat (because NT is really critical in the 3-4). our defense is very good. you could argue that akin and SS can be upgraded but we may have enough there already in carpenter and burnett and given RWs contract any changes there are not realistic. so here is what i would do:

sign a WR in FA (my first choice would be bryant johnson, AZ)
sign a "scat back" type #3 RB in FA or if there is one in the later draft rounds that we identify, we can do that
select CB with cleveland's #1
then we have out own #1 (#31 :D :D ) and our #2 and we need to draft a legit RB (stewart, felix jones, ray rice, chris johnson etc) and there would be several possibilities of what we could do there.

also once sparano leaves: a better OL coach to focus on run blocking.
 
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