DMN Blog: One big reason Mike Shanahan wouldn't fit in Dallas

[casmith07]

I believe that someone who's supposed to be a professional coach could figure out a new way to run the football with a power offensive line as opposed to what he built at a previous franchise.

 

[cowboys2233]

I believe that someone who's supposed to be a professional coach could figure out a new way to run the football with a power offensive line as opposed to what he built at a previous franchise.

Um, we have a power offensive line? Could have fooled me. They are big, yes. They are strong, yes. But it takes a certain amount of effort to actually turn that into something useful.

 

[TNCowboy]

So Shanahan is totally incapable of adapting his offensive system to our OL and/or our current OL into his system? Total and complete bunk.

Good coaches make it work.

 

[wileedog]

And we drafted players during the time of Parcells and Wade to fit that 3-4 scheme. With Parcells, we were expecting an overhaul of the roster with the changes in the scheme. Are we going to overhaul the roster again?

Repalcing 3 or 4 offensive linemen is not "overhauling the roster."

 

[Mansta54]

Wrong.

They did not get rid of him because he was big, they got rid of him because he was OVER his playing weight by a great deal because he had packed the pounds on during the offseason.

What he fails to mention is that same guy that was too big was the same guy they had signed and played the season prior to that.

Not disputing the other stuff in the article but that part was wrong. If he was too big to work in Shanahan's offense, they would have never signed him to begin with and he would have never started.

Dead on point!!! And Holland was labled as being lazy.... I think MS can work well with this oline. This oline is damn good, the problem is that they need a fire lit under their arse and that falls back on WP.

 

[Oh_Canada]

So Shanahan is totally incapable of adapting his offensive system to our OL and/or our current OL into his system? Total and complete bunk.

Good coaches make it work.

I agree...Shanny is smart enough to make it work and would definately make it work with this much talent. His problem was not his coaching, but his college talent evaluation.

 

[jobberone]

Any attempts to get Mike Shanahan on this team are flat-out stupid. He hasn't done jack squat since Elway retired. His team collapsed at the end of the year and the defense was horrible. The offensive line doesn't fit his scheme and Shanahan would require a total overhaul of the offensive line. Jerry just resigned Columbo and Flozell Adams, and also got a keeper in Holland, who was released by the very same Broncos and Shanahan.

The most this team needs is a legitimate OC or somebody to actually tutor Garrett while he is on the job. Hopefully, Detroit will force the issue by taking Garrett.

I'm not all that keen on Shanahan coming here but that Denver team almost won a division with a 5th string RB only a bit better than Deon. And more injuries than even we had. And Cutler is more like Romo than Elway. And Plummer is more Romo than Romo. IOWs he hasn't had a QB until Cutler and he's not proven to be a franchise QB yet.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Repalcing 3 or 4 offensive linemen is not "overhauling the roster."

Maybe I just don't get it or just don't have a strong understanding of the NFL as a fan.

However, in the real world, I would never ever pass up the chance to hire a very successful manager just because a few of the current employees don't fit his or her style.

Now, if we are desperate to win it all in 2009, then you probably don't make the move.

However, I don't care about blowing it all on 2009. I want a coach that can instill a philosophy that has us competing for a while.

This team is fairly young anyway, so 2009 shouldn't be looked at as our last time win it all.

 

[khiladi]

Repalcing 3 or 4 offensive linemen is not "overhauling the roster."

Those 3-4 lineman already take up plenty of cap space and were just re-signed. And it isn't easy to find decent lineman, as is attested to be our having to go with Proctor for the whole season. Plus, a radical change in the offensive philosophy.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

9:50 AM Wed, Dec 31, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Brian "Crash" Davis isn't the only member of the media who believes hiring Mike Shanahan would make sense for the Cowboys.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen mentioned the possibility on this morning's SportsCenter, citing Jerry Jones' relationship with the ex-Broncos coach. Yahoo.com's Jason Cole listed five good reasons Shanahan would be a good fit at Valley Ranch.

One big reason Shanahan isn't the right coach for the Cowboys: An offensive line that averages almost 330 pounds per man.

John Elway wasn't the key to Shanahan's Super Bowl teams. It was the Broncos' dominant rushing attack, which relied on undersized (by NFL standards), quick linemen who excelled in Denver's zone-blocking scheme.

The Broncos got rid of Montrae Holland because he was too big. Once he learned the Cowboys' scheme (and before he needed a protective boot), Holland fit right in with the bunch of maulers at Valley Ranch.

The Cowboys have committed big money to their four behemoths, singing LT Flozell Adams (6-7, 340), C Andre Gurode (6-4, 318), RG Leonard Davis (6-6, 353) and RT Marc Colombo (6-8, 318) to contracts that run through at least 2012. Why hire a coach who wouldn't want those guys?



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I'd love for him to change our O-line and get rid of those slow, fat, apathetic slugs who can't remember a snap count to save their lives.

 

[wileedog]

Those 3-4 lineman already take up plenty of cap space and were just re-signed. And it isn't easy to find decent lineman, as is attested to be our having to go with Proctor for the whole season.

That's still not 'overhauling the roster', its finagling the cap space. Its not nearly as bad as almost completely re-doing your defensive front 7, especially considering you need more depth there.

And quite frankly the people we currently have picking our offensive linemen stink at it. Way back through the Parcells years and beyond. I'd hire Shanahan for that reason alone, I'm tired of a decade of crappy offensive lines.

Plus, a radical change in the offensive philosophy.

Also needed. We need to be a running/play action team, not a vertical passing team.

 

[cowboys2233]

That's still not 'overhauling the roster', its finagling the cap space. Its not nearly as bad as almost completely re-doing your defensive front 7, especially considering you need more depth there.

And quite frankly the people we currently have picking our offensive linemen stink at it. Way back through the Parcells years and beyond. I'd hire Shanahan for that reason alone, I'm tired of a decade of crappy offensive lines.


Also needed. We need to be a running/play action team, not a vertical passing team.

What is the effect on the cap if said offensive linemen were the victims of unfortunate smelting accidents?

 

[DoomsDayII]

Repalcing 3 or 4 offensive linemen is not "overhauling the roster."

true but the 3-4 also required a different set of linebackers. that's why coakley didn't fit anymore and dat got hurt....they were too undersized for the 3-4 that needed larger LBs who had to take on OL and hybrid edge rushers who are too small to play 4-3 DE and excel as 3-4 OLB.

 

[chinch]

Yes because we all know Wade HAS done jack squat for the past 30 years.

and Jason

:laugh2:

 

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

9:50 AM Wed, Dec 31, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Brian "Crash" Davis isn't the only member of the media who believes hiring Mike Shanahan would make sense for the Cowboys.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen mentioned the possibility on this morning's SportsCenter, citing Jerry Jones' relationship with the ex-Broncos coach. Yahoo.com's Jason Cole listed five good reasons Shanahan would be a good fit at Valley Ranch.

One big reason Shanahan isn't the right coach for the Cowboys: An offensive line that averages almost 330 pounds per man.

John Elway wasn't the key to Shanahan's Super Bowl teams. It was the Broncos' dominant rushing attack, which relied on undersized (by NFL standards), quick linemen who excelled in Denver's zone-blocking scheme.

The Broncos got rid of Montrae Holland because he was too big. Once he learned the Cowboys' scheme (and before he needed a protective boot), Holland fit right in with the bunch of maulers at Valley Ranch.

The Cowboys have committed big money to their four behemoths, singing LT Flozell Adams (6-7, 340), C Andre Gurode (6-4, 318), RG Leonard Davis (6-6, 353) and RT Marc Colombo (6-8, 318) to contracts that run through at least 2012. Why hire a coach who wouldn't want those guys?



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Good, maybe we can stop hearing about Shanny coming here.

 

[aikemirv]

We have gotten physically manhandled by the Broncos the past two years we have had combined practices with that team. They have been more intense and focused each year.

I would definitely take Shannahan over Wade period.

 

[CF74]

Well if Shanahan can't adjust his style to the players strengths on the roster then he's just as worthless as Garrett. We need a coach who can work outside the box, do something he's never done before. The same ole plays get the same ole results and that is very little in the post season...