DMN Blog: Orlando Scandrick's fall

[WoodysGirl]

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The intention was never to trade up in the fifth round. But when Orlando Scandrick kept falling, there was just too much value there for the Cowboys not to make a move. So they did.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8eoGwmJxN4



On the other side of the equation was a player whose big day became an awfully tough one. Chadd Cripe of the Idaho Statesman writes ...

Scandrick's agent, David Canter blamed a rash of trades and other factors, such as Baltimore trading for Raiders cornerback Fabian Washington rather than drafting Scandrick, for his client's unexpected fall. Plus, a couple of teams that liked Scandrick - including Dallas - used first-round picks on premier corners. "You saw a lot of weird guys from weird schools get drafted," Canter said. " I think 32 teams made four rounds of mistakes, but I don't get to make the decisions on where guys get drafted."​

Scandrick and a close friend spent the day with Canter at a Los Angeles-area hotel. They joked and laughed, Canter said, despite the bad news that was unfolding on TV.​

"It was one of the most difficult things I've been through in my life to not be able to control your destiny," Scandrick said. " I'm just glad it's over."​

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whole article from the link...

Scandrick taken by Cowboys in fifth round
The former Boise State cornerback was selected later than he expected.

BY CHADD CRIPE - [email protected]
Edition Date: 04/28/08


In the end, cornerback Orlando Scandrick says he will focus on this: One of the NFL's elite teams, the Dallas Cowboys, felt strongly enough about his abilities that they traded up to get him and then bragged about getting a steal.
He won't focus on the fact that he fell at least two rounds farther than expected. He won't wonder what might have happened if he would have returned to Boise State for his senior year.

The Cowboys moved up 12 spots in the fifth round, to No. 143, to select Scandrick on Sunday in the NFL Draft. They gave up fifth- and seventh-round picks to make the deal with Jacksonville.

"I didn't exactly make the kind of impact I felt I could have made in this draft, but I'm going to let it go," Scandrick said. " They said I could be a great corner in this league, but it's going to take some work. I'll go in with my heart open, be ready to be coached and get better every day."

The Cowboys rated Scandrick a high third-round pick and considered taking him there, owner Jerry Jones said at a press conference. Instead, they traded down and accumulated draft picks.

"We just kept looking at him and looking at him," Jones said, "but we took off and started getting next year's picks. Still, we looked back up in the fifth round and there he was."

ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper Jr. rated Scandrick as the 67th-best prospect. However, 24 cornerbacks were taken before Scandrick, including some surprising picks - like Reggie Corner of Akron, Brandon Carr of Grand Valley State and Jack Ikegwuonu of Wisconsin, who tore a knee ligament and can't play this year.

Scandrick's agent, David Canter blamed a rash of trades and other factors, such as Baltimore trading for Raiders cornerback Fabian Washington rather than drafting Scandrick, for his client's unexpected fall. Plus, a couple of teams that liked Scandrick - including Dallas - used first-round picks on premier corners.

"You saw a lot of weird guys from weird schools get drafted," Canter said. " I think 32 teams made four rounds of mistakes, but I don't get to make the decisions on where guys get drafted."

Scandrick and a close friend spent the day with Canter at a Los Angeles-area hotel. They joked and laughed, Canter said, despite the bad news that was unfolding on TV.

"It was one of the most difficult things I've been through in my life to not be able to control your destiny," Scandrick said. " I'm just glad it's over."

The upside for Scandrick is that he walks into a quality situation. The Cowboys have a Pro Bowl corner in Terence Newman, they have traded for suspended star Pacman Jones and they drafted Mike Jenkins of South Florida in the first round.

So the Cowboys aren't expecting Scandrick, 21, to be a major contributor on defense right away.

"The next year right here for him, we can bring him up to the level we want him," Dallas coach Wade Phillips said. "We think he's a good pick and a good future pick."

Phillips remembers meeting with Scandrick at the NFL Scouting Combine, the day before Scandrick ran the 40-yard dash in 4.32 seconds.

"He said, 'I'm going to run 4.3 tomorrow,' " Phillips said. "They all say that, but he ran (4.32). He backed up what he said. And I like that type of attitude."

Scandrick was projected as a fourth- or fifth-round pick by the committee that advises college juniors who are considering an early exit. Canter, who was not involved in Scandrick's decision, said he usually tells players to stay in school if they don't get a second-round grade or higher.

However, several players who were considered elite prospects last year returned for their senior years and tumbled in this year's draft.

"When I made my decision to leave, I told myself I wasn't going to start to doubt myself and say 'What if?' " Scandrick said. "I'm not going to go that direction. I would have loved to be a higher draft pick, but the fact of the matter is I have to go out and produce and show I'm worthy."

 

[TheCount]

Yeah, this doesn't make me like him any better.

Everyone thinks they should have gone sooner than they did. The fact that he thinks the most important thing for a corner is speed, not instincts, not intelligence, not anticipiation, just because he happens to be fast, says a lot about him.

He picks the one thing he already has lots of as being the most important thing, not something he has to or can work on.

 

[Vintage]

" They said I could be a great corner in this league, but it's going to take some work. I'll go in with my heart open, be ready to be coached and get better every day."

Seems like he is willing to be coached.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

The reason he fell was cause he was rated as a 4th or 5th rounder PRIOR to the combines, he ran the 2nd fastest time of any C.B. there, so his stock by most peoples judegment based on SPEED ALONE.

But most scouts reported h looked and I quote "MEDIOCRE" in the drills they give everyone at the combines.
He wasn't a 1st or 2nd rounder EVER, so his agent is ******** saying he should of been a 1st rounder or what not, he is what he is, a good prospect where you can't teach speed but need to work on his gem a lot, which i why he fell to the 5th round, I think it was a little bit of a steal since he was probably around an early 4th to mid 4th round prospect, but of course his agent has to make him look good, but his MEDIOCRE drills at the combine was what dropped him IMO!

But he's gonna be our 5th C.B. and be a special teams demon, great pick with upside who will help immmediately on special teams, what else do you want from a 5th round pick?

 

[links18]

How about being happy about the chance to play pro football, rather than whining about where you were drafted? This guy sounds sounds like a bit of a prima donna. How happy is he going to be buried down the depth chart in Dallas?

 

[DCfaninDC]

Yeah, this doesn't make me like him any better.

Everyone thinks they should have gone sooner than they did. The fact that he thinks the most important thing for a corner is speed, not instincts, not intelligence, not anticipiation, just because he happens to be fast, says a lot about him.

He picks the one thing he already has lots of as being the most important thing, not something he has to or can work on.

I have to say that this article made me like drafting even more.

It sounds to me that he is going to be hungry to prove the teams that didn't pick him wrong. I see your point though.

 

[adamknite]

How about being happy about the chance to play pro football, rather than whining about where you were drafted? This guy sounds sounds like a bit of a prima donna. How happy is he going to be buried down the depth chart in Dallas?

"When I made my decision to leave, I told myself I wasn't going to start to doubt myself and say 'What if?' " Scandrick said. "I'm not going to go that direction. I would have loved to be a higher draft pick, but the fact of the matter is I have to go out and produce and show I'm worthy."

..... yeah because that really sounds like he's "whining" to me.

 

[links18]

"When I made my decision to leave, I told myself I wasn't going to start to doubt myself and say 'What if?' " Scandrick said. "I'm not going to go that direction. I would have loved to be a higher draft pick, but the fact of the matter is I have to go out and produce and show I'm worthy."

..... yeah because that really sounds like he's "whining" to me.

Did you see his draft day interview? Dude didn't sound very excited at all, he thought he should have gone sooner, even though the committee projected him as a 5th round pick. Not much humility on his part. He may have changed his tune a little bit, but even this article sounds like he and his agent see him as a victim rather than fortunate to be a Cowboy.

 

[BulletBob]

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Scandrick and a close friend spent the day with Canter at a Los Angeles-area hotel. They joked and laughed, Canter said, despite the bad news that was unfolding on TV.

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Doesn't this kid have any family?

 

[TheCount]

"When I made my decision to leave, I told myself I wasn't going to start to doubt myself and say 'What if?' " Scandrick said. "I'm not going to go that direction. I would have loved to be a higher draft pick, but the fact of the matter is I have to go out and produce and show I'm worthy."

..... yeah because that really sounds like he's "whining" to me.

You obviously haven't read the other stuff from him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If Pacman gets to play we won't be counting on Scandrick to play much year except on special teams. He has some negatives that need worked on. Lucky for us he has time to work on them instead of being throw into the fire.

 

[sago1]

Well, if you had a chance to go in the 3rd round where you could expect to sign a 4-5 deal for around $2M with SB of $200,000 as opposed to a 5th rounder who signs 4 year deal for maybe $1.2M with SB of $30,000, you might be a little disappointed. If he doesn't like being 5th or 6th CB on depth chart, all he has to do is work very hard, pay lot of attention to his coaches & also listen to other vets when they give him advice.

 

[adamknite]

You obviously haven't read the other stuff from him.

Nope, but this article and the quotes from him don't sound like whining to me.

"I didn't exactly make the kind of impact I felt I could have made in this draft, but I'm going to let it go," Scandrick said. " They said I could be a great corner in this league, but it's going to take some work. I'll go in with my heart open, be ready to be coached and get better every day."

That doesn't sound like whining at all IMO, sounds like he was disappointed and now he's going to prove he's better than that. If he would have pulled out a list of players that "he's better than" but were drafted before him.... then yeah I'd say he's being a crybaby. From what I read in that article his agent was doing more of the whining But, maybe I should read some of the other things he's said, since apparently he's the CB version of Malcolm Kelly.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Sounds like Scandrick is confident in his abilities...

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

Well, if you had a chance to go in the 3rd round where you could expect to sign a 4-5 deal for around $2M with SB of $200,000 as opposed to a 5th rounder who signs 4 year deal for maybe $1.2M with SB of $30,000, you might be a little disappointed. If he doesn't like being 5th or 6th CB on depth chart, all he has to do is work very hard, pay lot of attention to his coaches & also listen to other vets when they give him advice.

SHHHHHHH. Let them form their opinions even tho they have never been in the situation.

The "he should be happy to play in the NFL" crap is so funny. He was projected to be drafted higher up so he was going to be in the NFL regardless. I tell ya.

 

[NewJCowboy]

SHHHHHHH. Let them form their opinions even tho they have never been in the situation.

The "he should be happy to play in the NFL" crap is so funny. He was projected to be drafted higher up so he was going to be in the NFL regardless. I tell ya.

 

[iceberg]

Did you see his draft day interview? Dude didn't sound very excited at all, he thought he should have gone sooner, even though the committee projected him as a 5th round pick. Not much humility on his part. He may have changed his tune a little bit, but even this article sounds like he and his agent see him as a victim rather than fortunate to be a Cowboy.

not everyone reacts the same way dude. i've known people to go through very emotional times in either direction and not show it.

some people just seem like they don't hear things the way THEY want to hear them so everything else they turn bad.

rocket ismail hated media and was very soft spoken. some people are just that way. is he? no idea.

but a quote here and there and a perceived lack of enthusiasm by some seem to be enough for judge already.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

4.32 is golly gee fast!

 

[iceberg]

4.32 is golly gee fast!

in 1953 maybe.

today it's "wthwt"? fast.

 

[TheCount]

SHHHHHHH. Let them form their opinions even tho they have never been in the situation.

The "he should be happy to play in the NFL" crap is so funny. He was projected to be drafted higher up so he was going to be in the NFL regardless. I tell ya.

This, coming from you, is hilarious in its irony.

Maybe you should look over some of your posts and explain to me how you haev the right to question anyone elses opinions on a situation they've never been in, when you give yours all the time.

You'll have to pardon me if I don't feel sorry for him being one of 32 CB's in the entire nation drafted this year into the NFL, and onto a team where he will almost certainly make the team and see action sooner rather than later.