DMN Camp Blog: Cowboys sign kicker, release 3, and TO thoughts *updated*

[ABQCOWBOY]

Sago1 is quickly becoming the new "Nors".

I wonder if the Central needs another quality poster.

Oh..... that was cold Mikial.

BTW, good afternoon to you.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Oh..... that was cold Mikial.

BTW, good afternoon to you.

LOL!!!!

I'm just having some fun with Sago1. I like folks that have opinions and aren't scared to share them.

Afternoon ABQ.

Blistering hot hear in western NY State. This ain't right.

 

[InDakWeTrust]

LOL!!!!

I'm just having some fun with Sago1. I like folks that have opinions and aren't scared to share them.

Afternoon ABQ.

Blistering hot hear in western NY State. This ain't right.

You got A/C right? Back when I lived in Rochester, I remember the summers and always likened them to living in "he77" because I didnt have A/C or a pool.

 

[AbeBeta]

You could also award Vinatieri the Ray Lucas Trophy for the "free agent that everyone just KNEW was coming to Dallas because of Parcells".

that is particularly funny as we all know what sort of relationship Bill has with kickers. I'm positive that he and Vini were real tight

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

that is particularly funny as we all know what sort of relationship Bill has with kickers. I'm positive that he and Vini were real tight

Yet Bill told Adam the best advice was to stay where he was (patriots) because he was such a local hero and had it made.

Couple of other things to think about.

Bill had a short stay at New England so maybe he did not have as strong of a connection with Adam as Adam was brought in by bill and was not as known as the great kicker at that time.

Another thing to consider. Bill did not bring Adam to the Jets after he left the Pats.

 

[5Stars]

LOL!!!!

I'm just having some fun with Sago1. I like folks that have opinions and aren't scared to share them.

Afternoon ABQ.

Blistering hot hear in western NY State. This ain't right.

Stop moaning and groaning about "hot" in NY!

Come out West if you want HOT! And, that goes for the ladies out here, too!

 

[cowboyeric8]

I want a kicker, who can kick, punt, and kick off. Are all these specialties really that different?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Stop moaning and groaning about "hot" in NY!

Come out West if you want HOT! And, that goes for the ladies out here, too!

Depends what part of west you are talking about.

With some places there is dry heat.

I know here in WV the humidity has been terrible.

So far I can think of only one day this summer (free of rain) where it was not so bad with humidity that it has been so hazy that it looks like early morning fog.

Just been terrible this summer.

I have lived in dry heat and areas and areas with bad humidity.

Dry heat may be more dangerous because you don't realize how much fluid you lose but the high humidity areas are just miserable and worse IMO.

 

[Alexander]

Yet Bill told Adam the best advice was to stay where he was (patriots) because he was such a local hero and had it made.

And I remember you had people jumping on his case because that comment seemed like Coach Parcells was steering him away from Dallas.:laugh2:

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

And I remember you had people jumping on his case because that comment seemed like Coach Parcells was steering him away from Dallas.:laugh2:

Well you gotta remember...Bill is only here to destroy the team because he is really here to help the Giants. :

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I I don't recall him booming them all out of the endzone either.

Actually he did, problem was they weren't on kickoffs but on missed 25 yard FGs.

 

[Alexander]

Actually he did, problem was they weren't on kickoffs but on missed 25 yard FGs.

That's not "all". He had nine total touchbacks. And that was supposedly his strength. In comparison, Rackers had 22. That's booming them out of the endzone.

 

[cleverusername]

let's see, extra kicker or extra linebacker? wonder how Bill ends up going.

Thats an easy one. Especially since Bill used to be a kicking coach and takes pride in finding and developing young kickers. A lot of people think the kicking game is one of the most important aspects of a Parcells coached team.

 

[Alexander]

Thats an easy one. Especially since Bill used to be a kicking coach and takes pride in finding and developing young kickers. A lot of people think the kicking game is one of the most important aspects of a Parcells coached team.

:laugh2:

 

[DallasEast]

If coaches really thought it would benifit them at the end of the season to have their players resting rather than playing one or two of the preseason games, why wouldn't they just sit all of their starters for the entire game during one or two of the preseason games? They could cut back on what they do during training camp too?

The coaches do not have a choice in the matter. They do not set the schedule. The games must be played. If a coach does not attempt to play his starters in preseason games as equally as other coaches, his starters and backup players (i.e. depth) would suffer from less practice/repetition/preparation. The same goes for training camp. My suggestion would apply to every team.

Plus, coaches do cut back on the amount of minutes their starters put in during preseason games, but this usually happens during the final preseason game. This helps lessen the chance for injuries, etc., but even if any player (starter or backup) is on the field for any length of time--it doesn't eliminate the possibility of something happening which could've been prevented if the games were not played.

My point is, these guys aren't idiots, and they obviously want to do what's best for them regarding the season. If cutting back on the amount of reps players get during training camp and preseason really helped, they'd do it..

I never said they were idiots. They do adhere to the preseason schedule because it must be played. Again, unless a coach knows that he has a bonafide, sure-fire Super Bowl winner, he's not going to cut back on the amount of work his players need to be successful for the regular season. He's only going to cut back so much on the amount of reps he thinks his players need.

 

[Colo]

The coaches do not have a choice in the matter.

I'm not aware of any rule that says coaches must play their starters a certain amount of minutes during preseason games.

Plus, coaches do cut back on the amount of minutes their starters put in during preseason games, but this usually happens during the final preseason game. This helps lessen the chance for injuries, etc., but even if any player (starter or backup) is on the field for any length of time--it doesn't eliminate the possibility of something happening which could've been prevented if the games were not played.

Gee, thanks for enlightening me.

Again, unless a coach knows that he has a bonafide, sure-fire Super Bowl winner, he's not going to cut back on the amount of work his players need to be successful for the regular season. He's only going to cut back so much on the amount of reps he thinks his players need.

Agree completely. The coach is given a specified amount of time allocated for TC that he is not allowed to exceed without ramifications from the league. Again, I may be mistaken, but I don't think it's written anywhere in league policy that teams must practice for a minimum of X number of hours. If a coach and owner truly thought his team would benifit from less work during TC and PS, they'd play their starters less during preseason and work them less during training camp. If the length of TC and PS are what the problem is, why wouldn't a coach do as much as he could within the rules to eliminate the problem?

Honestly, I don't really care one way or the other about the number of PS games or how long TC is. I am only concerned with what happens when it counts. I just don't agree that the length of TC and PS is the problem. If it was, they'd do something about it.

 

[DallasEast]

I'm not aware of any rule that says coaches must play their starters a certain amount of minutes during preseason games.

For that matter, there isn't a rule that states that coaches have to play anyone during the preseason.

Gee, thanks for enlightening me.

You're welcome.

Agree completely. The coach is given a specified amount of time allocated for TC that he is not allowed to exceed without ramifications from the league. Again, I may be mistaken, but I don't think it's written anywhere in league policy that teams must practice for a minimum of X number of hours. If a coach and owner truly thought his team would benifit from less work during TC and PS, they'd play their starters less during preseason and work them less during training camp. If the length of TC and PS are what the problem is, why wouldn't a coach do as much as he could within the rules to eliminate the problem?

Honestly, I don't really care one way or the other about the number of PS games or how long TC is. I am only concerned with what happens when it counts. I just don't agree that the length of TC and PS is the problem. If it was, they'd do something about it.

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Okay.

I understand where you're coming from.

This is where I'm coming from.

I see very little reasoning behind the necessity of teams playing more than two preseason games. In addition, regardless, let me repeat, regardless of the number of minutes that starters and/or backup players actually put in practices, scrimmages and/or preseason games, the length of the preseason itself increases the likelihood of injury to any player.

The fundamental purpose of the preseason is to prepare teams for regular season games. IMO, the extra 2 or 3 preseason games are marketing tools geared to help further promote the start of the regular season. I believe that a 4-or-5 game preseason schedule does not significantly improve the quality of play during the first one or two regular season games; and that it simply lengthens the grind which players must endure each year.

When the regular season was set at 14 games and the wild card round was absent, a 4-or-5 game preseason schedule made more sense for the NFL player healthwise. It doesn't with a 16 game regular season and (for some teams) an additional playoff round.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Sometimes folks think that every FA is dying to come to Dallas.

Let's give a huge welcome to the winner of the 2006 version of Mike Wahle Award, Mr. Adam Vinateri!!!!!

I'd rather have Wahle and Vinateri than Rivera and Vandy.

 

[AbeBeta]

I'd rather have Wahle and Vinateri than Rivera and Vandy.

Sure -- but they wouldn't rather be in Dallas. That was the point.