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Former NFL players, execs give Cowboys 'B' offseason grade, say Hardy-Lee combo could 'transform defense'

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Published: 29 March 2015 07:50 PM

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After an explosive start, NFL free agency has come to a slow crawl while fans await the looming draft.

So how did the Dallas Cowboys do, exactly?

A handful of former players and executives - including Bill Polian, Louis Riddick and ESPN's Mike Sando - got together to rank the offseason moves for all of the teams in the NFL separating them into tiers. The Cowboys fell into the fourth tier with a "B" ranking.

Here's what Sando and Polian had to say about the Cowboys.

"The pressure is on the Cowboys to replace [DeMarco] Murray. If they do that successfully, free agency is going to look like a success. It already has big potential with [Greg] Hardy adding a badly-needed pass-rush threat to the defense on a one-year deal. Hardy and a healthy Sean Lee could transform the defense. Potential is the key word, however. There are many unknowns.

'Adding Hardy looks like a good deal on paper,' Polian told ESPN. 'What you do not know is what the suspension will be and will there be litigation that follows that? They protected themselves contract-wise, but they do not know how long he will be on the field.'

For what it's worth, the Philadelphia Eagles received the same grade as the Cowboys with Polian saying that Murray "dropped into [the Eagles'] laps". The team that did the best among the Cowboys' division was the Washington Commanders (receiving an A-minus) and the worst was the New York Giants (receiving a "C" grade).

Click here to read Sando's entire article.

Hardy also made an appearance in a separate ESPN article as one of the top 10 impact acquisitions of the offseason.

"We're concentrating only on what Hardy can do on the field with this selection, and his availability could be limited by a league-mandated suspension," Matt Williamson wrote. "But Hardy was a dominant player in 2013, and after signing a one-year incentive-laden deal, he should remain very hungry to regain that dominance for the Cowboys so long as he's able to stay on the field. Hardy is very stout on the edge against the run, but is also a great pass-rusher who can win on the edge or as an inside pass-rusher when Dallas goes to its sub package defense. That makes him close to an every-down player.

"Jeremy Mincey played well for the Cowboys in 2014, and DeMarcus Lawrence has a lot of ability that flashed at the end of the year. This could be a very good defensive line after the addition of Hardy. Behind this upgraded defensive line, Sean Lee needs to finally stay healthy and the Cowboys could use a new recruit or two for the second level via the draft. But their pass rush and overall play up front should make this an improved defense."

Click here to read Williamson's full article.

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And if we sign Ro. Just think of what we'll have if everyone stays healthy and everyone's on the field.
Hardy and Lawrence on the edges. Crawford (as DT) Ro and Lee in the middle of the defense, Scandrick and Carr (yes, I think he'll improve with a better pass rush) in the secondary. Then we add another pass rusher or defensive tackle in the draft? And then we play Maranelli's aggressive style of defense?
I expect SIGNIFICANT improvement in the defense next season.
 

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And if we sign Ro. Just think of what we'll have if everyone stays healthy and everyone's on the field.
Hardy and Lawrence on the edges. Crawford (as DT) Ro and Lee in the middle of the defense, Scandrick and Carr (yes, I think he'll improve with a better pass rush) in the secondary. Then we add another pass rusher or defensive tackle in the draft? And then we play Maranelli's aggressive style of defense?
I expect SIGNIFICANT improvement in the defense next season.


DM has been replaced by DM. ;-)
 

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And if we sign Ro. Just think of what we'll have if everyone stays healthy and everyone's on the field.
Hardy and Lawrence on the edges. Crawford (as DT) Ro and Lee in the middle of the defense, Scandrick and Carr (yes, I think he'll improve with a better pass rush) in the secondary. Then we add another pass rusher or defensive tackle in the draft? And then we play Maranelli's aggressive style of defense?
I expect SIGNIFICANT improvement in the defense next season.

The problem with Ro is he takes up a roster spot and hinders development of a younger LB. The positive is depth and he could start in the middle.

Here's the current situation for the base:

Mike: Brinkley, Ro and Hitchens
Will: Lee and ?Wilbur maybe Watson
Sam: Hitchens, Ro, Gachkar

Further Depth:

C Lawrence
Davis
Anderson
Rivers
Smith

That's 12 LBers. I'm guessing Watson is brought to TC. That's six not counting Ro. We will carry 7-8 maybe another. My guess is ten to TC and two cut if Ro signs. If he doesn't then 0-2 cut before camp.

I'm guessing Lee, Hitchens and Brinkley base and Lee and Watson nickel. Add Gachkar, Wilber and another to the roster. They may add one more for a total of 7-8.

7 LBers, 9 DL, 5 CBs, and 4 S make for 25 on defense. They could add another player.
 

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The problem with Ro is he takes up a roster spot and hinders development of a younger LB. The positive is depth and he could start in the middle.

Here's the current situation for the base:

Mike: Brinkley, Ro and Hitchens
Will: Lee and ?Wilbur maybe Watson
Sam: Hitchens, Ro, Gachkar

Further Depth:

C Lawrence
Davis
Anderson
Rivers
Smith

That's 12 LBers. I'm guessing Watson is brought to TC. That's six not counting Ro. We will carry 7-8 maybe another. My guess is ten to TC and two cut if Ro signs. If he doesn't then 0-2 cut before camp.

I'm guessing Lee, Hitchens and Brinkley base and Lee and Watson nickel. Add Gachkar, Wilber and another to the roster. They may add one more for a total of 7-8.

7 LBers, 9 DL, 5 CBs, and 4 S make for 25 on defense. They could add another player.

Wait what

Why would Brinkley be ahead of McClain?
 

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The problem with Ro is he takes up a roster spot and hinders development of a younger LB. The positive is depth and he could start in the middle.

Here's the current situation for the base:

Mike: Brinkley, Ro and Hitchens
Will: Lee and ?Wilbur maybe Watson
Sam: Hitchens, Ro, Gachkar

Further Depth:

C Lawrence
Davis
Anderson
Rivers
Smith

That's 12 LBers. I'm guessing Watson is brought to TC. That's six not counting Ro. We will carry 7-8 maybe another. My guess is ten to TC and two cut if Ro signs. If he doesn't then 0-2 cut before camp.

I'm guessing Lee, Hitchens and Brinkley base and Lee and Watson nickel. Add Gachkar, Wilber and another to the roster. They may add one more for a total of 7-8.

7 LBers, 9 DL, 5 CBs, and 4 S make for 25 on defense. They could add another player.

Ro is only 25. He IS a younger LB.
 

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Ro is only 25. He IS a younger LB.

I think it's unlikely that, even if we get a deal this year, Ro is in our long-term plans. Even though he's young, we don't expect to enjoy his abilities for more than 1-2 years. He could come and play very well next year and change that thinking though.
 

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The problem with Ro is he takes up a roster spot and hinders development of a younger LB. The positive is depth and he could start in the middle.

Here's the current situation for the base:

Mike: Brinkley, Ro and Hitchens
Will: Lee and ?Wilbur maybe Watson
Sam: Hitchens, Ro, Gachkar

Further Depth:

C Lawrence
Davis
Anderson
Rivers
Smith

That's 12 LBers. I'm guessing Watson is brought to TC. That's six not counting Ro. We will carry 7-8 maybe another. My guess is ten to TC and two cut if Ro signs. If he doesn't then 0-2 cut before camp.

I'm guessing Lee, Hitchens and Brinkley base and Lee and Watson nickel. Add Gachkar, Wilber and another to the roster. They may add one more for a total of 7-8.

7 LBers, 9 DL, 5 CBs, and 4 S make for 25 on defense. They could add another player.

still trying to get my mind around the idea that you thought Ro was old.
 

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ro brings something we have not had to our LB corp in a very long time. Physical intimidation. To be blunt something the whole team has had little of for a very long time. Colombo had the attitude and took no prisoners but really did not have the ability to really shine - Ro has that ability and the attitude. I am not talking about nasty that seems to fascinate some here; Ro plays like Randy White did and a top D needs someone like that. Hardy could very well be the other one on our D that has the outstanding physical ability and uses it to the max to make plays.
 

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The problem with Ro is he takes up a roster spot and hinders development of a younger LB. The positive is depth and he could start in the middle.

Here's the current situation for the base:

Mike: Brinkley, Ro and Hitchens
Will: Lee and ?Wilbur maybe Watson
Sam: Hitchens, Ro, Gachkar

Further Depth:

C Lawrence
Davis
Anderson
Rivers
Smith

That's 12 LBers. I'm guessing Watson is brought to TC. That's six not counting Ro. We will carry 7-8 maybe another. My guess is ten to TC and two cut if Ro signs. If he doesn't then 0-2 cut before camp.

I'm guessing Lee, Hitchens and Brinkley base and Lee and Watson nickel. Add Gachkar, Wilber and another to the roster. They may add one more for a total of 7-8.

7 LBers, 9 DL, 5 CBs, and 4 S make for 25 on defense. They could add another player.
Not sure what young LB that Ro hinders development. Hitchens is the only young MLB type and he is likely starting at Sam. The players that can play Will are: Lee, Hitchens, Gachkar, K Smith, W Smith.

Wilber, Watson, Rivers are Sam types and guys that might play OTTO. Some guys like Lee and Hitchens can play multiple positions of course. Broaddus say Gachkar can play both outside spots.

Anderson is a free agent and it does not appear he is wanted back.
 

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The problem with Ro is he takes up a roster spot and hinders development of a younger LB. The positive is depth and he could start in the middle.

Here's the current situation for the base:

Mike: Brinkley, Ro and Hitchens
Will: Lee and ?Wilbur maybe Watson
Sam: Hitchens, Ro, Gachkar

Further Depth:

C Lawrence
Davis
Anderson
Rivers
Smith

That's 12 LBers. I'm guessing Watson is brought to TC. That's six not counting Ro. We will carry 7-8 maybe another. My guess is ten to TC and two cut if Ro signs. If he doesn't then 0-2 cut before camp.

I'm guessing Lee, Hitchens and Brinkley base and Lee and Watson nickel. Add Gachkar, Wilber and another to the roster. They may add one more for a total of 7-8.

7 LBers, 9 DL, 5 CBs, and 4 S make for 25 on defense. They could add another player.

Nice break down on roster positions for the numbers.
However don't be surprised if they carry 10 DL, 4 CB's. Reason being C. White could play some S if needed. But if Claiborne will most likely start on PUP, he could be the 5th when time to bring him up, and can see a DL go off the roster.

Right now on my list, which I haven't put a lot of thought into it yet, I have 11 DL, 7 LB, 9 DB for 27 players. The 2 in the difference I have is 8 on the OL, 3 QB, 3 RB, 1 FB, 5 WR, 3 TE, 3 ST
Waiting until after the draft to get a better feel for my initial 53 and roster breakdown.
 

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there are those who still believe sean lee can be a positive factor? i am not one of them.
 

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The problem with Ro is he takes up a roster spot and hinders development of a younger LB. The positive is depth and he could start in the middle.

Here's the current situation for the base:

Mike: Brinkley, Ro and Hitchens
Will: Lee and ?Wilbur maybe Watson
Sam: Hitchens, Ro, Gachkar

Further Depth:

C Lawrence
Davis
Anderson
Rivers
Smith

Not sure I understand how McClain "hinders development of a younger linebacker." The only younger linebacker worth developing appears to be Hitchens.

If we keep six linebackers, right now I've got Lee, McClain, Hitchens, Brinkley and Gachkar as the top five. The best of Watson, Rivers and Wilber probably takes the last spot ... or a rookie.
 

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Not sure I understand how McClain "hinders development of a younger linebacker." The only younger linebacker worth developing appears to be Hitchens.

If we keep six linebackers, right now I've got Lee, McClain, Hitchens, Brinkley and Gachkar as the top five. The best of Watson, Rivers and Wilber probably takes the last spot ... or a rookie.

I don't know it for a fact but you have 5-6 LBers waiting their turn and there's a good chance one maybe even two will see more snaps than most think.
 

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there are those who still believe sean lee can be a positive factor? i am not one of them.

Absolutely not, the guy can't be counted on to stay healthy. It's unfortunate too, he could be a top-5 player at his position if his body would quit falling apart.

As far as the article is concerned, I think that the rating is a fair one.
 

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Absolutely not, the guy can't be counted on to stay healthy. It's unfortunate too, he could be a top-5 player at his position if his body would quit falling apart.

As far as the article is concerned, I think that the rating is a fair one.

great avi!
 
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