DMN:Jason Garrett a long shot for Broncos' job?

[Mr Cowboy]

January 10, 2009

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ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports (via Pro Football Talk) that the "buzz" is that Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier and Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels are the top two candidates in Denver.

That would leave Jason Garrett as a long shot.

The word in Detroit is that the Lions' picture should clear up after this weekend. If the Lions want to hire Garrett or another candidate who isn't working for a team still in the playoffs, they'll make their move soon. If they wait, that could be considered a sign that they're holding out for an assistant on a team that isn't done yet.

 

[Mansta54]

I hope JG is back. I think he's being the fall guy for the poor job that the HC has done. Our team is a strong reflection of its HC. Lacks discipline, focus, and a strong desire to play hard at all times. That sums up WP in a nutshell, you can't put that on JG. The HC lays the foundation so his asst can succeed and WP hasn't done that. It's just that simple!!!!

 

[dbair1967]

I hope JG is back. I think he's being the fall guy for the poor job that the HC has done. Our team is a strong reflection of its HC. Lacks discipline, focus, and a strong desire to play hard at all times. That sums up WP in a nutshell, you can't put that on JG. The HC lays the foundation so his asst can succeed and WP hasn't done that. It's just that simple!!!!

I agree...makes a convenient scapegoat I guess, but I think he's a good coach in what turned out to be a poor situation as the yr wore on here. The offense looked great to start the season and appeared it wouldm be as good or better than last yrs team, then started struggling with injuries and ect etc (ie, bad team work ethic)

 

[stardeep]

I thought with the color of his hair he'd be a near shoe-in.

My fingers are crossed that he's back. I think if JG was our head coach the players would play for him. He's the kind of guy that is respected by other men, IMO.

 

[Mansta54]

I agree...makes a convenient scapegoat I guess, but I think he's a good coach in what turned out to be a poor situation as the yr wore on here. The offense looked great to start the season and appeared it wouldm be as good or better than last yrs team, then started struggling with injuries and ect etc (ie, bad team work ethic)

I totally agree!!! I bet JG cringes at the way WP runs this team. JG came up under Jimmy and knows the discipline, focus, and hard work it takes to win but he's just the asst and can't just over rule the HC and say we're doing it this way..

 

[gbrittain]

I agree...makes a convenient scapegoat I guess, but I think he's a good coach in what turned out to be a poor situation as the yr wore on here. The offense looked great to start the season and appeared it wouldm be as good or better than last yrs team, then started struggling with injuries and ect etc (ie, bad team work ethic)

Wasn't it amazing when Romo was healthy / playing well Dallas offense really did just fine.

 

[Mansta54]

I thought with the color of his hair he'd be a near shoe-in.

My fingers are crossed that he's back. I think if JG was our head coach the players would play for him. He's the kind of guy that is respected by other men, IMO.

Yep, and he would demand that they play better and wouldn't be giving them days off when they didn't need it. He wouldn't put up with all that crap that WP lets them get away with...

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I hope JG is back. I think he's being the fall guy for the poor job that the HC has done. Our team is a strong reflection of its HC. Lacks discipline, focus, and a strong desire to play hard at all times. That sums up WP in a nutshell, you can't put that on JG. The HC lays the foundation so his asst can succeed and WP hasn't done that. It's just that simple!!!!

Okay, this is what Galloway and JFE kept saying Thursday when Estridge kept asking why Garrett should be considered a great HC prospect when he didn't even handle his side of the ball this year.

So here's my question: Why didn't this affect the defense? Several guys on defense had their best years ever this year: Ware, Ratliff, Bradie James, even Keith Davis. Who on offense had their best year ever? Did a single player on the entire offense play better this year than last?

So why did this so-called lack of focus or whatever only affect Garrett's side of the ball?

I just think it's a cop-out. Garrett spends plenty of time with his guys. If he wanted to be tougher than Wade, he'd have plenty of opportunity to do so.

 

[Iago33]

Okay, this is what Galloway and JFE kept saying Thursday when Estridge kept asking why Garrett should be considered a great HC prospect when he didn't even handle his side of the ball this year.

So here's my question: Why didn't this affect the defense? Several guys on defense had their best years ever this year: Ware, Ratliff, Bradie James, even Keith Davis. Who on offense had their best year ever? Did a single player on the entire offense play better this year than last?

So why did this so-called lack of focus or whatever only affect Garrett's side of the ball?

I just think it's a cop-out. Garrett spends plenty of time with his guys. If he wanted to be tougher than Wade, he'd have plenty of opportunity to do so.

Having been in positions where my choices to discipline those under me were not supported by those above me, I understand that sometimes you are handcuffed unless your superiors back your decisions. Unfortunately, I think this goes for Wade, as well, since his superior, the [ahem] GM, seems to want to coddle certain players.

 

[bbgun]

It's not like his defection would prompt Wade's dismissal, so we might as well welcome this news.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Having been in positions where my choices to discipline those under me were not supported by those above me, I understand that sometimes you are handcuffed unless your superiors back your decisions. Unfortunately, I think this goes for Wade, as well, since his superior, the [ahem] GM, seems to want to coddle certain players.

I hear you... But you didn't answer the question.

 

[TheCount]

I would love to see what Garrett would do if offered the job, is he eager to get out of here? I want him here, but not if he doesn't want to be here.

 

[Mansta54]

Okay, this is what Galloway and JFE kept saying Thursday when Estridge kept asking why Garrett should be considered a great HC prospect when he didn't even handle his side of the ball this year.

So here's my question: Why didn't this affect the defense? Several guys on defense had their best years ever this year: Ware, Ratliff, Bradie James, even Keith Davis. Who on offense had their best year ever? Did a single player on the entire offense play better this year than last?

So why did this so-called lack of focus or whatever only affect Garrett's side of the ball?

I just think it's a cop-out. Garrett spends plenty of time with his guys. If he wanted to be tougher than Wade, he'd have plenty of opportunity to do so.

It did affect our D too. They were good at times but nowhere near what they should've been and they also had a rack of penalties which showed a lack of focus as well. As for individual players doing well, thats a indication of their own personal work ethic and desire to succeed. Hats off to them but its the HC job to get the entire team focused through discipline and hard work. WP doesn't do that. I've played on every level except the pros and each and every one of my HC's was the strong arm and disciplinarian. They made sure that the asst coaches had the players undivided attention and if they didn't we would feel the HC wrath. This is nothing new in football or sports in general.

 

[dadymat]

im really interested in seeing Red be a HC....hopefully ours.....

 

[MWILL]

Garrett had no chance to get the Broncos job. The Broncos problems is on the defensive side of the ball. I'd get a defensive minded coach, but I believe he can get the Lions job.

 

[Iago33]

I hear you... But you didn't answer the question.

Yes, I did. Wade controlled the defense and--possibly--could set and enforce his own standards of discipline. Garrett controlled the offense and couldn't set and enforce his own standards of discipline.

Furthermore, you said that Garrett could be as tough as he wanted to on the offensive side of the ball. That is simply not true in an organizational setting--you can only be as tough as the superiors will reinforce.

 

[Mansta54]

im really interested in seeing Red be a HC....hopefully ours.....

Me too dude, he'll do a fine job.

 

[Mansta54]

Yes, I did. Wade controlled the defense and--possibly--could set and enforce his own standards of discipline. Garrett controlled the offense and couldn't set and enforce his own standards of discipline.

Furthermore, you said that Garrett could be as tough as he wanted to on the offensive side of the ball. That is simply not true in an organizational setting--you can only be as tough as the superiors will reinforce.

Very well said!!!

 

[28 Joker]

Okay, this is what Galloway and JFE kept saying Thursday when Estridge kept asking why Garrett should be considered a great HC prospect when he didn't even handle his side of the ball this year.

So here's my question: Why didn't this affect the defense? Several guys on defense had their best years ever this year: Ware, Ratliff, Bradie James, even Keith Davis. Who on offense had their best year ever? Did a single player on the entire offense play better this year than last?

So why did this so-called lack of focus or whatever only affect Garrett's side of the ball?

I just think it's a cop-out. Garrett spends plenty of time with his guys. If he wanted to be tougher than Wade, he'd have plenty of opportunity to do so.

Hmm. Someone who doesn't give Garrett a free pass and sees the great job Phillips did with the defense. How refreshing.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

It did affect our D too. They were good at times but nowhere near what they should've been and they also had a rack of penalties which showed a lack of focus as well. As for individual players doing well, thats a indication of their own personal work ethic and desire to succeed. Hats off to them but its the HC job to get the entire team focused through discipline and hard work. WP doesn't do that. I've played on every level except the pros and each and every one of my HC's was the strong arm and disciplinarian. They made sure that the asst coaches had the players undivided attention and if they didn't we would feel the HC wrath. This is nothing new in football or sports in general.

So when the team does well, it's on the individual players. When the team does poorly, it's on the coach. I see.

Funny how we didn't have a single one of those personally motivated players on offense, because I can't think of one who was better this year than last.

Yes, I did. Wade controlled the defense and--possibly--could set and enforce his own standards of discipline. Garrett controlled the offense and couldn't set and enforce his own standards of discipline.

Furthermore, you said that Garrett could be as tough as he wanted to on the offensive side of the ball. That is simply not true in an organizational setting--you can only be as tough as the superiors will reinforce.

But you're saying that the "standard of discipline" Wade set was only bad for the offense. Somehow it was okay for the defense. I don't get that.