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[WoodysGirl]

Bob Hayes will be the last of the Landry Era Cowboys in the Hall of Fame

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Now that the selection committee has finally seen fit to give Bob Hayes his rightful place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, it's safe assume he's the last of the old-school Cowboys to gain football immortality.

There are only two players from the Tom Landry who should be in the Hall of Fame: Drew Pearson and Chuck Howley, but I don't hold out much hope for either one of them. But I won't argue with those of you who believe Harvey Martin should be in the Hall of Fame.

We all remember Pearson's clutch performances, but he was also a member of the All-Decade team of the 70s as was Martin.

You can't really do much better than that.

Howley was widely recognized as one of the best all-around linebackers of his era. He also remains the only player from a losing team to be named Super Bowl MVP.

Unfortunately, I don't think either will ever make.

As for the Cowboys from the Jerry Jones Era, Emmitt Smith should get into the HOF next summer and Deion Sanders should join him the year after. A few years down the road Larry Allen should make it.

That's it.

Darren Woodson, to me, is deserving because he played a role in redefining the safety position. He was one of the first safeties good enough and agile enough to cover slot receivers. That allowed the Cowboys to keep their regular personnel on the field in some nickel situations, making them strong against the run even when teams used formations with three receivers.

Charles Haley, a significant player on five Super Bowl champions, including three in Dallas, might get in one day. His off-the-field antics, which aren't supposed to play a role, will bias some voters.

What you have to remember is the Hall of Fame should be reserved for truly great players. Those who transcended the game with their ability.

Players whose ability was so great and their performances so dominant over a significant period of that we don't really even need to discuss whether they should be in the Hall of Fame.

It's not supposed to be for really, really good players. It's supposed to be for the best of the best.




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[Temo]

I would love seeing Darren Woodson get in (my favorite 90's Cowboy), but I don't see it happening. Allen, Aikman, Irvin, Smith are the only guarentees (not counting Deion as a Cowboy) from those teams.

It's funny, I keep looking for defensive guys from those teams to get in (those defenses were as good or better than the offensive side), but I can't find any slam dunks (Haley excepted). I mean, there are a lot of guys who were solid players, and a few VERY good ones, but none that stand out as definite HoF'ers (Woodson would be the one I'd put in if it were up to me only). Guys like Henning, Maryland, Norton, Lett... all very, very good players who don't scream HoF to me.

Then you have Kevin Smith, who arguably played HoF-caliber defense for those teams in '92 and '93 to help the Cowboys win superbowls, but never had the career to justify even being in the conversation.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

No room for Howley?

I'm not high on Howley for the HOF but he has a better claim to it than Pearson.

 

[RoadRunner]

Charlie Waters should get a mention as well. Still holds the record for playoff interceptions I think.

 

[DallasEast]

Now that the selection committee has finally seen fit to give Bob Hayes his rightful place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, it's safe assume he's the last of the old-school Cowboys to gain football immortality.

There are only two players from the Tom Landry who should be in the Hall of Fame: Drew Pearson and Chuck Howley, but I don't hold out much hope for either one of them. But I won't argue with those of you who believe Harvey Martin should be in the Hall of Fame.

We all remember Pearson's clutch performances, but he was also a member of the All-Decade team of the 70s as was Martin.

You can't really do much better than that.

Cliff Harris.

Why is Cliff Harris being omitted?

 

[Chief]

I think JJT forgot about Cliff Harris, who came very close to making it four or five years ago. I would say that Harris has a chance as a seniors candidate, but his biggest proponent, Paul Zimmerman, is in bad health and probably won't be around to tout him.

Howley is now the best remaining candidate, followed by Drew Pearson, Cliff Harris, and then possibly Harvey Martin.

Pearson and Martin have no chance. They can't even get into the Jerry Jones Ring of Honor.

 

[bbgun]

Four Hall of Famers.

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[unionjack8]

if not cut short by injury Erik Williams would have been a shoe in. Best OL i have ever seen. PERIOD! Nasty as hell. Nobody else, and i mean nobody else did what he did to reggie White on a regular basis, game after game.

 

[lurkercowboy]

if not cut short by injury Erik Williams would have been a shoe in. Best OL i have ever seen. PERIOD! Nasty as hell. Nobody else, and i mean nobody else did what he did to reggie White on a regular basis, game after game.

Someone who just watched Cowboy games then would wonder who Reggie White was.

I was never scared of Reggie White when we had Erik Williams in his prime.

 

[Chief]

Four Hall of Famers.

http://img15.*************/img15/9075/mnvflq8.jpg

What a great picture.

What a great day.

 

[Hostile]

Four Hall of Famers.

http://img15.*************/img15/9075/mnvflq8.jpg

That is just awesome.

Howley and Harris deserve to be in for sure.

 

[Doomsday101]

I hope that is not the case I think there are still some great players of that time who deserve to be in the HOF. As mentioned Chuck Howley, Lee Roy Jordan, Cliff Harris as well as a few others deserve the honor

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think JJT forgot about Cliff Harris, who came very close to making it four or five years ago. I would say that Harris has a chance as a seniors candidate, but his biggest proponent, Paul Zimmerman, is in bad health and probably won't be around to tout him.

Howley is now the best remaining candidate, followed by Drew Pearson, Cliff Harris, and then possibly Harvey Martin.

Pearson and Martin have no chance. They can't even get into the Jerry Jones Ring of Honor.

You never hear any talk of Ed "Too Tall" Jones, which kind of surprises me. He was a pretty good player for a considerable amount of time. He was also pretty dominating.

 

[JPM]

You never hear any talk of Ed "Too Tall" Jones, which kind of surprises me. He was a pretty good player for a considerable amount of time. He was also pretty dominating.

if he played for the Steelers he'd already be in.

 

[bigE79]

if not cut short by injury Erik Williams would have been a shoe in. Best OL i have ever seen. PERIOD! Nasty as hell. Nobody else, and i mean nobody else did what he did to reggie White on a regular basis, game after game.

As you can see,you know i agree

 

[ilovejerry]

Bob Hayes will be the last of the Landry Era Cowboys in the Hall of Fame

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Now that the selection committee has finally seen fit to give Bob Hayes his rightful place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, it's safe assume he's the last of the old-school Cowboys to gain football immortality.

There are only two players from the Tom Landry who should be in the Hall of Fame: Drew Pearson and Chuck Howley, but I don't hold out much hope for either one of them. But I won't argue with those of you who believe Harvey Martin should be in the Hall of Fame.

We all remember Pearson's clutch performances, but he was also a member of the All-Decade team of the 70s as was Martin.

You can't really do much better than that.

Howley was widely recognized as one of the best all-around linebackers of his era. He also remains the only player from a losing team to be named Super Bowl MVP.

Unfortunately, I don't think either will ever make.

As for the Cowboys from the Jerry Jones Era, Emmitt Smith should get into the HOF next summer and Deion Sanders should join him the year after. A few years down the road Larry Allen should make it.

That's it.

Darren Woodson, to me, is deserving because he played a role in redefining the safety position. He was one of the first safeties good enough and agile enough to cover slot receivers. That allowed the Cowboys to keep their regular personnel on the field in some nickel situations, making them strong against the run even when teams used formations with three receivers.

Charles Haley, a significant player on five Super Bowl champions, including three in Dallas, might get in one day. His off-the-field antics, which aren't supposed to play a role, will bias some voters.

What you have to remember is the Hall of Fame should be reserved for truly great players. Those who transcended the game with their ability.

Players whose ability was so great and their performances so dominant over a significant period of that we don't really even need to discuss whether they should be in the Hall of Fame.

It's not supposed to be for really, really good players. It's supposed to be for the best of the best.




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Nothing makes my blood boil more then the HOF. Its a joke, And you know what I'm sick of hearing the excuse that because The older guys ( 70s ) aren't Jerry's guys He doesn't care, about them . I really hope that's not the case, Because this franchise should really look at the past. I have no confidence in the future.
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[big dog cowboy]

You never hear any talk of Ed "Too Tall" Jones, which kind of surprises me. He was a pretty good player for a considerable amount of time. He was also pretty dominating.

if he played for the Steelers he'd already be in.

That is so true it's mind boggling.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Dallas should have more players in the Hall of Fame! Howley, Woodson, Martin etc....

 

[JJB500]

Four Hall of Famers.

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Took three of them way. way too long to get in!