DMN: Laufenberg: What the Cowboys' running back situation is likely to look like next season

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Can anybody name the "franchise" backs for the last ten SB champs? The teams would include the Packers, Saints, Giants, Patriots, Steelers and Colts. Bet you can name the QB's.

Bring in sufficient competition with their heads screwed on straight and keep them healthy. Doesn't take a top ten college superstar, they end up 50-50 careerwise anyway.
 

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Can anybody name the "franchise" backs for the last ten SB champs? The teams would include the Packers, Saints, Giants, Patriots, Steelers and Colts. Bet you can name the QB's.

Bring in sufficient competition with their heads screwed on straight and keep them healthy. Doesn't take a top ten college superstar, they end up 50-50 careerwise anyway.

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RB by committee sucks. Our team is built for the run and needs a runner. Emmitt was the heart of our team and I dont think we would have been as successful with an average back or worse RB by committee. I think a pick like Zeke even if we take him top 5 will pay off.
 
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I really dont see how we dont go in this direction with our first pick. The only problem is we may be picking to high (i think top 5) while he is rated for 15-20 range. While a trade down would be ideal I would be ok with the pick

Me too. Don't get cute, go get your guy!
 

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Can anybody name the "franchise" backs for the last ten SB champs? The teams would include the Packers, Saints, Giants, Patriots, Steelers and Colts. Bet you can name the QB's.

Bring in sufficient competition with their heads screwed on straight and keep them healthy. Doesn't take a top ten college superstar, they end up 50-50 careerwise anyway.

great reason to not get a top RB....c'mon man
 

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RB by committee sucks. Our team is built for the run and needs a runner. Emmitt was the heart of our team and I dont think we would have been as successful with an average back or worse RB by committee. I think a pick like Zeke even if we take him top 5 will pay off.

Emmitt Smith was not a top 5 the year he was drafted, they said he was too small, too slow. However, Blair Thomas was everything the scouts loved, a top 5 pick that same year.

Five RB's picked before Murray, none come close to his overall numbers and he was often injured.

I agree that once you find the right guy KEEP HIM...but finding the right guy....it's a Krap shoot and the higher you go the more you have to lose. Saturation process until you find that right guy but not necessary to burn high picks unless he's the 2nd coming of a Walter, Barry, Emmitt....rare.
 

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Emmitt Smith was not a top 5 the year he was drafted, they said he was too small, too slow. However, Blair Thomas was everything the scouts loved, a top 5 pick that same year.

Five RB's picked before Murray, none come close to his overall numbers and he was often injured.

I agree that once you find the right guy KEEP HIM...but finding the right guy....it's a Krap shoot and the higher you go the more you have to lose. Saturation process until you find that right guy but not necessary to burn high picks unless he's the 2nd coming of a Walter, Barry, Emmitt....rare.

I know Emmitt wasnt top 5 but thats not the point. Im trying to say bringing in anybody doesnt work even with a good line. A runner of Emmitts caliber, or Adrian, or Gurley, or the majority of great runners usually comes first round. I think Zeke fits that mold and would be a mistake to pass up even if we go top 5 for him. Hes fast, can block, tough. I think hes better than anything in round 2 on like Gurley is better and gets more attention than anyone picked round 2 and on. Your right its not guaranteed but runners dont bust as often as QB.
If Zeke works out not only do we solve one of our bigger problems it'll open the passing game. Some average 3rd rounder wont get the defensive attention a good rb will. who do you think is better for 1st round?
 

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Top 40 rushers over the past ten seasons, only ten were a top 10 pick, only 3 in the top ten leading rushers were a top 10 pick.

1 Frank Gore 3-65 11073
2 Steven Jackson 1-24 10715
3 Adrian Peterson 1-7 10190
4 Marshawn Lynch 1-12 8695
5 Chris Johnson 1-24 8628
6 Maurice Jones-Drew 2-60 8167
7 LaDainian Tomlinson 1-5 7785
8 Thomas Jones 1-7 7752
9 Matt Forte 2-44 7704
10 Willis McGahee 1-23 7346
11 Michael Turner 5-154 7234
12 Jamaal Charles 3-73 6856
13 DeAngelo Williams 1-27 6846
14 LeSean McCoy 2-53 6792
15 Arian Foster 6309
16 Ray Rice 2-55 6180
17 Cedric Benson 1-4 6017
18 Fred Jackson 5646
19 Larry Johnson 1-27 5557
20 Clinton Portis 2-51 5509
21 Reggie Bush 1-2 5465
22 Ronnie Brown 1-2 5391
23 Willie Parker 5192
24 Brandon Jacobs 4-110 5094
25 Jamal Lewis 1-5 4844
26 Ahmad Bradshaw 7-250 4843
27 Jonathan Stewart 1-13 4825
28 Marion Barber 4-109 4780
29 Brian Westbrook 3-91 4717
30 Edgerrin James 1-4 4526
31 DeMarco Murray 3-71 4526
32 Joseph Addai 1-30 4453
33 Julius Jones 2-43 4249
34 Darren McFadden 1-4 4247
35 Rashard Mendenhall 1-23 4236
36 Ryan Grant 4148
37 Fred Taylor 1-9 4115
38 Shonn Greene 3-65 4110
39 Warrick Dunn 1-12 4062
40 Ryan Mathews 1-12 4061
 

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the only reason I said top 5 is cause thats where I think we will be. We need a rb more than almost any other posn and I think its unreasonable to pass on what could be a franchise rb because of a few draft spots. I am saying we should go rb in the first round. Another way to look at your list is 7 of top 10 in the last 10 years were taken first round. We have to go for need over BPA. BPA is when u have numerous holes. Sometimes we take these rankings to seriously. To pass on a player we need because its a position you feel shouldnt be taken in first is getting to married to the board. Top RB's also get the attention of the defense and open up the passing game. You suggestion of RB by committee doesnt. I dont know what you mean by keep them healthy.
I'll take an Emmitt, a Dorsett, An LT, a Sanders, a Peterson, a Gurley, (1st rounders) over any of your rb by committee (anybody will do) teams. Our team is built for a strong rb. Zeke could fit nicely and he should be available.
again- what are your thoughts for our first round pick?
 
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Babe must read this forum.
He said he keeps hearing Stafford's name coming up for a future QB. The only place I seen this was on this site. :laugh:

Lol I was thinking that. If we have a top 3 pick i don't see us not drafting a qb.
 

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Hopefully, we get a good all around back in the draft, not somebody that "complements" McFadden & Dunbar.

Excited to see what Turbin can do.

I dont follow College football all that much. But I know the two special backs (Cook and Fournette) will not be in the years draft. Are there any backs coming out this year that can be the lead guy? Im not trying to be a smart ash I am honestly asking because I do not follow college all that much.
 

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Can anybody name the "franchise" backs for the last ten SB champs? The teams would include the Packers, Saints, Giants, Patriots, Steelers and Colts. Bet you can name the QB's.

Bring in sufficient competition with their heads screwed on straight and keep them healthy. Doesn't take a top ten college superstar, they end up 50-50 careerwise anyway.

Several of those SB winning teams you mentioned had defenses that could apply pressure to the QB, force turnovers and make critical stops. NO won their SB by picking off Peyton Manning for a pick-six when the game was on the line. Both the Giants SB wins were aided by containing Tom Brady and the Pats high powered offense. Both the Steelers SB wins under Roethlisberger were aided by #1 defenses and forcing turnovers. The offenses of those SB winning teams leaned on the passing game which is why you can name those QBs with several being named SB MVP's. The Cowboys have never had a defense under Romo they can depend on to make critical stops and win games which has put a lot of pressure on him to have to carry the team. Not having a solid defense or a consistent running game is what led to those three straight 8-8 seasons. If you put too much on Romo to have to win games he presses like he did against Carolina and it leads to turnovers.

He had the most efficient season of his career last year due to having a solid running game that took pressure off him and the defense. Controlling the ball with the running game kept the defense off the field an average of 13 fewer plays than the previous season and it led to Romo having a career low in pass attempts. Romo can only carry the Cowboys so far before the floor caves in. He plays his best when he's not having to do too much. He knew how dependent the team is on him and he clearly pressed against Carolina which led to a miserable performance and the re-injuring of his shoulder. The Cowboys have never won a championship without an elite runner in their backfield. Romo needs a solid, consistent running game for him to be the best QB he can be.
 

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Several of those SB winning teams you mentioned had defenses that could apply pressure to the QB, force turnovers and make critical stops. NO won their SB by picking off Peyton Manning for a pick-six when the game was on the line. Both the Giants SB wins were aided by containing Tom Brady and the Pats high powered offense. Both the Steelers SB wins under Roethlisberger were aided by #1 defenses and forcing turnovers. The offenses of those SB winning teams leaned on the passing game which is why you can name those QBs with several being named SB MVP's. The Cowboys have never had a defense under Romo they can depend on to make critical stops and win games which has put a lot of pressure on him to have to carry the team. Not having a solid defense or a consistent running game is what led to those three straight 8-8 seasons. If you put too much on Romo to have to win games he presses like he did against Carolina and it leads to turnovers.

He had the most efficient season of his career last year due to having a solid running game that took pressure off him and the defense. Controlling the ball with the running game kept the defense off the field an average of 13 fewer plays than the previous season and it led to Romo having a career low in pass attempts. Romo can only carry the Cowboys so far before the floor caves in. He plays his best when he's not having to do too much. He knew how dependent the team is on him and he clearly pressed against Carolina which led to a miserable performance and the re-injuring of his shoulder. The Cowboys have never won a championship without an elite runner in their backfield. Romo needs a solid, consistent running game for him to be the best QB he can be.
Romo actually had more first half pass attempts in 2014 than he had the previous season. Because of an improved passing game, running game, and defense, Dallas had more second-half leads and Romo threw much, much fewer passes in the second half than he had the previous year.

And much of what made 2014 Romo's best season ever came from targets of less than 10 yards. In other words, when you look at what separated Romo's best season (2014) from his 2nd-best season (2011), it isn't downfield passing. It's the targets within 10 yards of the LOS, mostly to Beasley and Murray.

Romo's best year of intermediate-to-deep passing was not when Murray had 1,800 yards. It was when he was throwing to Bryant, Robinson, and Austin, and Murray had 900 yards.

Romo's pass rating on 10+ yard targets
2011 123.2
2014 119.7

less than 10 yards
2011 99.5
2014 110.5
 

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i want Derek Henry. He has that north south game and I think we'd be bowling teams over if he was behind this O line.
 

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If there is an RB to grab in this draft early, it's Henry. He's looking durable, he is for a fact a workhorse RB - something I question with Zeke when he comes to the NFL.

Want to keep Romo healthy? Get him an RB that can handle over 20 touches a game without going down with injury. Get Henry, let's get back to what made us a solid team in 2014.
 

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I agree. We can keep on wasting time trying to emulate everyone elses formula or we can go back to the formula that actually worked for us, which was having a power run game to take the pressure off of the qb. We found one formula that worked for us through the years, and I feel we should go back to it. I'd consider Henry in the first and a qb later if we can't get Lynch or possibly Goff.
 

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something else that kinda, sorta works in Dallas' favor with drafting a RB, is that A LOT of teams drafted one last year...it may lighten the pool of teams looking to draft a RB by a little


oh, and btw, hard for ol' Fredd to take anyone seriously with the name "Babe"...pfffft
 

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If so, it would be smart to get a good rookie. I think McFadden is maxed out. What you see at his best and worst this year is exactly what you get.

I do not even waste a lot of time counitng on Dunbar. He is coming off of injury and despite some excitement for him earlier in the year, I don't see any reason to simply hold open a job for him in 2016.

Dunbar is not a RB.

He's a receiver.

And when he comes in the game..

it's a telegraph the play is to him.

He's just limited and now moreso with the knee injury.

I feel sorry for him. Just when he was really getting a chance to contribute..

Wham. He's down.
 

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Dunbar is not a RB.

He's a receiver.

And when he comes in the game..

it's a telegraph the play is to him.

He's just limited and now moreso with the knee injury.

I feel sorry for him. Just when he was really getting a chance to contribute..

Wham. He's down.

Dunbar needs to put the FREE in FA if he wants to come back.

He is a decent swing back but we need a guy at RB4 that is better at KR.
 

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Dunbar needs to put the FREE in FA if he wants to come back.

He is a decent swing back but we need a guy at RB4 that is better at KR.

I never have understood why we have never drafted a special teams return guy.

The fact that the coaches publically say for the roster spot they must also backup somewhere..

is just non-sensicaal.

When I watch the ridiculous turnover at the RB position this year..

one of those revolving spots should be instead dedicated to a drafted bonfire return guy.

When you figure he is going to be touching the ball 5-10 times a game..

it would seem a guy should be featured and selected and made to get the opportunities to get field position or even score.

Having a cast of characters at 3 or 4th string positions who ride the bench all year makes no sense to me.

Even 2 guys..one for the KO and one for the PR.
 
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