News: DMN: National writer ranks all 32 NFL cornerback units, and the results aren't good for the...

[CowboyRoy]

Agree
Our secondary would be fine if we had a great DL and Lee can stay healthy in the middle

Let's see how that goes
I'm not giving up yet

Our secondary would be fine

Being "just fine" isnt good enough.

 

[Macnalty]

Our CBs are better than 27 with Scandrick in the lineup, and I'm suspicious of any statistical analysis of how many TDs a position group 'gives up' across the entire league. But our S play and our pressure obviously factor into things here.

Regardless, defense has been our Achilles heel the last five years, and it doesn't look like that's changing dramatically again this season. We're hoping for 'middling.' Or that our offense can keep them in favorable situations all year. No fun.

I agree we are going to leaning on the offense in the fourth quarter to keep the other team off the field, zeke and morris together will make teams pause when leaving less than 8 in the box.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

LOL.......so what were we bottom 6? too funny. And by what measure? Whatever measure makes them look the best?

Dallas has allowed the fewest points and yards of the division in each of the last two seasons. Last year Dallas was ranked 16th while each of the other three teams with apparently scary defenses were in the bottom 5. This will be the third consecutive year that Dallas is the favorite for worst defense in the division. They've finished each of the last two years as the best defense in the division. I'd expect that trend to continue.


Not sure why facts flying in the face of your preconceived notions is funny to you, but please proceed in your ignorance.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dallas has allowed the fewest points and yards of the division in each of the last two seasons. Last year Dallas was ranked 16th while each of the other three teams with apparently scary defenses were in the bottom 5. This will be the third consecutive year that Dallas is the favorite for worst defense in the division. They've finished each of the last two years as the best defense in the division. I'd expect that trend to continue.


Not sure why facts flying in the face of your preconceived notions is funny to you, but please proceed in your ignorance.

I asked you a simple question? By what measure? And why would you limit it down to ONLY the NFC East? As you expressed, most defenses in our division stink. So we are better than three that stink? Wow, how impressive.

Ill show you some of the ones where they were terrible:

Rushing defense: 23rd
Turnovers: 32nd
Sacks: 27th

Other than points allowed, those are 3 of the most important defensive statistics there are for defense. But when you have arguably the worst offense in the NFL as we did for of last year, then people dont have to take chances and score much against you. Thus I would expect points scored to be lower and passing yards against to be lower.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

I asked you a simple question? By what measure? And why would you limit it down to ONLY the NFC East? As you expressed, most defenses in our division stink. So we are better than three that stink. Wow, how impressive. As soon as you tell me but what measurement, I will show you ones that prove you dead wrong.

I listed the measurement in my post. The post I responded to listed the strengths of the division's defenses so that would seem to be the accurate comparison. Despite ignorant people assuming differently, Dallas has significantly outperformed their division rivals on that side of the ball. Maybe your inability to understand simple sentences plays into your inability to understand any of the other things you're constantly ranting about.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Just think how good we're going to be when Carr, Mo, Wilcox and Church are gone next year.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Any of our units top 20 besides oline? Doubt it. Qb is and maybe receivers.

 

[Shinaoi]

Qb if you want to count that is a unit is

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Any of our units top 20 besides oline? Doubt it. Qb is and maybe receivers.

RB. Maybe a stupid question but why would you ask if any of "our" units are top 20 before listing three and missing one?

 

[StarBoyz83]

RB. Maybe a stupid question but why would you ask if any of "our" units are top 20 before listing three and missing one?

Lol don't know realized that after I posted it. Cant believe I forgot rb. 3 isn't bad. Still having monday.

 

[LocimusPrime]

We are just (1) probowl corner, (1) probowl DE, and 1 HOFer LB away from being a top 10 defense. We could prob get there in 1-2 years if we follow the Broncos method.

 

[CCBoy]

Funny thing about media writers...they are always like a tail gunner when going into a battle.

 

[JohnnyTheFox]

I'm of the school of thought that your CBs are only as good as your pass rush.

What pass rush?

 

[stilltheguru88]

Well, some of our fans are adamantly against drafting CB's high; we've had a horrible track record finding CB's in the mid to later rounds; our pass rush is mediocre at best because we don't have a single stud at DE---we have some youth, we have potential, we have crazy hope, but the fact is we don't have a single guy anywhere along the DL who wins 1-1 consistently. And we have a DC who doesn't like to blitz or run a lot of exotic schemes.

Even without the suspensions, this defense scares no one in the NFL.

Philly has Cox.
Skins have Kerrigan.
Giants have a scary group.

We have DeMarcus Lawrence and Tyrone Crawford trying to make a name for themselves.

It is what it is, and any time the offense struggles, it will be a long afternoon for Cowboys fans.

Kerrigan? Lol

 

[CowboyRoy]

I listed the measurement in my post. The post I responded to listed the strengths of the division's defenses so that would seem to be the accurate comparison. Despite ignorant people assuming differently, Dallas has significantly outperformed their division rivals on that side of the ball. Maybe your inability to understand simple sentences plays into your inability to understand any of the other things you're constantly ranting about.

LOL.........you said it yourself, our division defenses stink. So what is your point? And I listed the major points where our defense is horrid. Stop insulting and try providing evidence to the contrary. Or continue to show you got nothing.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Just think how good we're going to be when Carr, Mo, Wilcox and Church are gone next year.

Carr could have been toast already if we had taken the corner at 4.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I listed the measurement in my post. The post I responded to listed the strengths of the division's defenses so that would seem to be the accurate comparison. Despite ignorant people assuming differently, Dallas has significantly outperformed their division rivals on that side of the ball. Maybe your inability to understand simple sentences plays into your inability to understand any of the other things you're constantly ranting about.

You call these quality defensive statistics for a defense?

Rushing defense: 23rd
Turnovers: 32nd
Sacks: 27th

Back to the drawing board, I just blew your laughable theory out of the window. And here is a news flash for you................................At 32 in turnovers, its not possible for the Cowboys to be in front of 3 people in our division. My you dont understand simple math.

 

[gmoney112]

Not really too worried about it. I think 27 is probably a little dramatic though.

We were 2nd in the league in takeaways in 2014, and a little better than average in 2013 with a front 7 that'd make the 2016 roster look like All Stars.

Last year anyone with eyeballs saw a scheme switch and with no offense it had poor results.

All we really need is a defense that can finish top 10 in points allowed and top 10 in TO's forced.

I think people will be pleasantly surprised by midseason. Well, the realistic ones anyway.

 

[Alexander]

Last year anyone with eyeballs saw a scheme switch and with no offense it had poor results.

Not sure there was a true scheme switch. To me that implies wholesale changes.

I just think they over-estimated how the pass rush was going to perform and then once the injuries came about, they played softer to avoid giving up scores and keep games close. That's more of a philosophical response or emphasis than anything.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Not sure there was a true scheme switch. To me that implies wholesale changes.

I just think they over-estimated how the pass rush was going to perform and then once the injuries came about, they played softer to avoid giving up scores and keep games close. That's more of a philosophical response or emphasis than anything.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. For all the grief this defense gets they weren't the major problem last year. They will be better this year if injuries don't plague them too much. As for the corners, this is what you get when you spend big resources for corners that weren't supposed to play in the scheme you switched to.