DMN: One No. 94 to another; talks about having champions brought in to monitor a team

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One No. 94 to another
11:57 AM Fri, Oct 16, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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Todd Archer brings word that Charles Haley has had some impromptu discussions with DeMarcus Ware about pass-rushing.

Todd's column intrigued me on several fronts. Most interesting was Ware's belief that Haley was at Valley Ranch for business reasons and that the two happened to bump into each other on consecutive weeks.

Well, that seems impressively crafty on the Cowboys' and Haley's part, considering that Haley mentioned to me two weeks ago that he might work a little with Ware.

"Coach, Wade, he's opened the door to come up and talk and be around the guys," Haley said then. "If he [Ware] is receptive, I'll come up and show him some stuff during the bye week."


What prompted me to ask Haley about Ware? During last month's Cowboys' kickoff luncheon, Ware had singled out Haley, calling him "the real '94." These days, it's rare for young athletes to show that kind of deference.

"I talked to him a little bit his rookie year about pass rush," Haley said. "Every time I see him, I try to tell him a little something, what it's going to be like.

"Teams have figured out his style right now, so he's got to add more to his repertoire. Techniques are really developed in training camp. I don't know how fast he can grasp techniques. You don't want to be stuck between a move. That's when you get your head tore off."

As Todd noted, Ware must have grasped something last week against the Chiefs, notching his first two sacks to end a five-game drought.

Coincidence? Like Todd, I think not.

"When I was with the 49ers, the greatest asset I had was that we had veterans there who had won," Haley said. "We had the legacy there. Bill Walsh took the time to have champion boxers come in. He had two or three champions from different sports come every training camp and talk about what it's like to be a champion and talk about the attitude you have to take.

"The only thing the Cowboys don't have, they don't have the veterans coming in to pass it down to the younger guys, that winning tradition."

Was Haley lobbying for a job two weeks ago? Maybe. After retiring for the second time, in 1999, Haley was a Lions defensive assistant.

Whether or not Ware's sack-production returns to last year's record pace, he might be "bumping into" Haley more often at Valley Ranch.
 

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cowboyjoe;3019131 said:
Todd's column intrigued me on several fronts. Most interesting was Ware's belief that Haley was at Valley Ranch for business reasons and that the two happened to bump into each other on consecutive weeks.

Well, that seems impressively crafty on the Cowboys' and Haley's part, considering that Haley mentioned to me two weeks ago that he might work a little with Ware.

"Coach, Wade, he's opened the door to come up and talk and be around the guys," Haley said then. "If he [Ware] is receptive, I'll come up and show him some stuff during the bye week."
Verrrry interesting....
 

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Wade has welcomed former Cowboys to talk or work with players. Eric Williams has been here as has Randy White. Irvin is around these player quite often.
 

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Tiger was around recently.

Imagine just a few of our players with Tigers' mental toughness.

Wow!
 

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"Coach, Wade, he's opened the door to come up and talk and be around the guys," Haley said then. "If he [Ware] is receptive, I'll come up and show him some stuff during the bye week."



Just leave the crapping in the glovebox part out. :p:
 

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YoMick;3019143 said:
Tiger was around recently.

Imagine just a few of our players with Tigers' mental toughness.

Wow!
Having his otherworldly talent would be nice, too.
 

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cowboyjoe;3019131 said:
During last month's Cowboys' kickoff luncheon, Ware had singled out Haley, calling him "the real '94." These days, it's rare for young athletes to show that kind of deference.

I seem to recall Ware not even knowing who Haley was when he was a rookie.
 

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Seven;3019145 said:
"Coach, Wade, he's opened the door to come up and talk and be around the guys," Haley said then. "If he [Ware] is receptive, I'll come up and show him some stuff during the bye week."



Just leave the crapping in the glovebox part out. :p:

I have a feeling this Haley thing is kind of like "you don't want to see how the sausage is made" kind of deal. :D
 

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Double Trouble;3019158 said:
Having his otherworldly talent would be nice, too.


Agreed. I love Tiger.


But... I do believe we have some GREAT talent. So the Jedi Mind Associates Degree would do alot of these already good-great plays very well.
 

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Doomsday101;3019139 said:
Wade has welcomed former Cowboys to talk or work with players. Eric Williams has been here as has Randy White. Irvin is around these player quite often.

yeah but im talking about bringing in other champions, like boxers, baseball players, basketball like the 49ers did;
 

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cowboyjoe;3019443 said:
yeah but im talking about bringing in other champions, like boxers, baseball players, basketball like the 49ers did;

Well hopefully some of that Tiger Wood magic will rub off. :laugh2:
 

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cowboyjoe;3019131 said:
"Coach, Hoov, he's opened the door to come up and talk and be around the guys," Haley said then. "If he [Ware] is receptive, I'll come up and show him some stuff during the bye week."

Definitely an isolated smart decision by coach Hoov. Have some guys come in to do what he can't. Help put a championship attitude on the field. Instill some belief in these young guys...
 

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cowboyjoe;3019132 said:
so maybe the cowboys need to this on a bigger scale!
I don't know how big of a scale they do this, but if my memory isn't totally shot, I think they do to some degree already.

The first year we had Bigg, I remember Nate Newton on Talking Cowboys talking about how Leonard need to get his behind down lower in his stance. The next week he did and Leonard took off from that point on. I'm going to guess the two players talked.

Year before last I know I seen Magic Johnson talking to all the players about championship mentality. It was on Hard Knocks.

We already know Tony Romo talks to Roger, Troy and has Tiger as a good friend.

It's anybodys guess if there is more that we don't know about.
 

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cowboyjoe;3019443 said:
yeah but im talking about bringing in other champions, like boxers, baseball players, basketball like the 49ers did;

Yeh I think we should bring in Mike Tyson, Pete Rose and Dennis Rodman to help out the team.

:laugh2:
 

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"Teams have figured out his style right now, so he's got to add more to his repertoire. Techniques are really developed in training camp. I don't know how fast he can grasp techniques. You don't want to be stuck between a move. That's when you get your head tore off."

Yet Wade was quoted last week as saying the greats that he coached - Reggie White and Bruce Smith - only had one move, that one move is good enough for a great player, and that Ware worries to much about adding to his repertoire.

Wade has been around the game his whole life, has more football knowledge in his right pinky than this whole board combined, but he sure says some dumb things. Or else is very inarticulate about relaying all the knowledge he has to his players.
 
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