DMN: Only Jerry Jones would hire a penalty coach (JJT suggests hiring Pereira)

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theogt;3320998 said:
And if these limited situations were that important in the grand scheme of things it would likely cause a greater correlation with winning percentage.

But because it doesn't, the cost of attempting to fix penalties (including hiring an extra coach and using valuable practice time that could have been spent working on other areas, such as goal line offense) seems to outweigh any minimal benefit gained.
It still wouldn't hurt to cut down on penalties. The gains may be minimal, but it would no penalties would be better than having penalties.
 

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theogt;3320998 said:
And if these limited situations were that important in the grand scheme of things it would likely cause a greater correlation with winning percentage.

But because it doesn't, the cost of attempting to fix penalties (including hiring an extra coach and using valuable practice time that could have been spent working on other areas, such as goal line offense) seems to outweigh any minimal benefit gained.


and by minimal benefit, you mean the 20 yard gains we lose out due to penalty? Because those first downs, yardage, and td's dont help us win.

I think by the time 1 TD is wiped out due to penalty, someone will scream for someones head.

The sport has left the good fan behind, now its do what it takes to win because we hve to prove to everyone else we are better.

1 td called back due to penalty and hiring someone to make your team more effective becomes a good idea.
 

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Cover 2;3321059 said:
It still wouldn't hurt to cut down on penalties.
Unless the effort you spend attempting to cut down on penalties takes away from time you could have spent elsewhere.
 

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i wouldn't mind cutting down the penalties.. but how could pereira help? its not like we need to know these obscure rules that he might know all about..
we know what penalties were committing. we need to just.. not make them.. lol. how to bring that about in training camp and practice to impact the games, i don't know, but i doubt pereira can spot an offsides better then any other guy..
 

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Are we gonna let him take the star off the helmet and put the Steelers logo on it because that is the only way he is going to help reduce penalties!

And I am not really kidding either.
 

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theogt;3320998 said:
And if these limited situations were that important in the grand scheme of things it would likely cause a greater correlation with winning percentage.

But because it doesn't, the cost of attempting to fix penalties (including hiring an extra coach and using valuable practice time that could have been spent working on other areas, such as goal line offense) seems to outweigh any minimal benefit gained.

The financial cost does not hurt the Cowboys (No cap on coaches). And you don't alter practice. You just have penalites called during parctice and you address them as you go. No need to have a "penalty" practice. You practice goal line and the "penalty" coach checks for infractions during this time.
 

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hornitosmonster;3321321 said:
The financial cost does not hurt the Cowboys (No cap on coaches). And you don't alter practice. You just have penalites called during parctice and you address them as you go. No need to have a "penalty" practice. You practice goal line and the "penalty" coach checks for infractions during this time.
They already call penalties during practice. And when a player is called, he gets yanked.
 

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I do think what Pereira would bring is an insight to the players of what the officials are looking for and focused on during a game. Whether you think he will help or not it is no harm to Dallas by doing this and in the process if it helps cut down on penalties it is well worth it to Dallas. I see this a no lose situation
 

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theogt;3321326 said:
They already call penalties during practice. And when a player is called, he gets yanked.

Not by a guy like Pereira. There is a difference between coaches calling penalties and Pereira calling them (who has real insight into what real Refs look for)

Why would anyone be against this? What ever slight edge the Cowboys can gain by this is a positive. If Belacheat thought of this first it would be labeled as a genius move...Ahead of the curve...keeping the slight edge.
 

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Hiring him is a brilliant move for a reason JJT fails to mention. "People respond to incentives. " Do I mean the players would respond to the penalties coach? No. Maybe they would but it doesn't matter. Hiring him gives the game refs an incentive to not penalize us. If the guy is perceived as successful it opens a financial incentive for refs post ref'ing. Jerry should hire the guy and watch as we miraculously begin to get the benefit of the doubt. Never underestimate perverse incentives....
 

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theogt;3320986 said:
Penalties have almost no correlation with winning percentage. People care entirely too much about penalties.

And it is completely borne out over the last few seasons on both ends of the spectrum. You have heavily penalized teams doing well in the playoffs, and lightly penalized teams knowing they were out of the running in week 12. A good team can overcome penalties and Dallas did this fairly well on both sides of the ball the last few seasons.
 

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I hope people actually read the article and understood that this was a JJT proposal and that the Cowboys have NOT hired Mike Pereira.
 

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WoodysGirl;3322027 said:
I hope people actually read the article and understood that this was a JJT proposal and that the Cowboys have NOT hired Mike Pereira.

Journalism these days borders on libel defamation.
 

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gmoney112;3322120 said:
Journalism these days borders on libel defamation.

???

What are you talking about? Nothing in there was libelous or defamatious.
 

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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Only-Jerry-would-hire-penalty-coach-15803641

Just saw this article which makes a ton of sense. It basically says that since Mike Pereira is about to retire in a few months and is interested in coaching. One thing no NFL has tried so far is to hire a referee coach to coach out penalties. This is something that makes perfect sense because the Boys have always been at the top of the NFL in terms of penalty yardage and number of penalties assessed, which hampers their progress and retards their potential. The writer rationalizes that to hire Mike Pereira would likely only cost Jerry 300k/season and could come in and help coach out penalties on one of the most penalized teams in the league.

I personally LOVE this idea, b/c we can all admit that these untimely penalties are aggravating and irritating. And hiring the former top zebra should do wonders to reduce these penalties.
 
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