News: DMN: Rule that overturned Dez Bryant’s catch doesn’t sound like it will be changed

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[WoodysGirl]

Welp...

 

[CowboyGil]

Ain't that a punch in the gut!

 

[Stash]

"Stupid is as stupid does..."

 

[Hook'em#11]

Landed on the ground with the damn ball with possesion. Took three steps before that..

Catch all day long. It's not difficult at all if the stupid NFL would let the players and play stay on the damn field.

 

[Staubacher]

Guess the NFL brass is back on the Jones' party bus...

 

[tideh20heel]

This going to the ground mantra is absurd.

 

[burmafrd]

never should have been a rule in the first place. The NFL got on quite well for how many decades without it?

Typical of society today- you have one or two incidents and the scream goes out for laws and rules to change. Back when common sense ruled it was understood that there are always going to be extreme examples- but when talking one or two out of thousands or millions of incidents there is no logical reason to make big changes just because of that.

 

[DogFace]

I just want to know how many steps before the dive is no longer part of the catch. Is this a judgement?
I'm being serious. Ten steps is obviously enough. So how many? 5?
There has to be some uniformity to this questionable rule.

 

[burmafrd]

I just want to know how many steps before the dive is no longer part of the catch. Is this a judgement?
I'm being serious. Ten steps is obviously enough. So how many? 5?
There has to be some uniformity to this questionable rule.

there should be no rule; because as long as there is there will be stupid interpretations of it and then it will get micromanaged and you would in the end need a tape measure and a calculator for each play to figure out if it was legal or not. The SMART thing is to junk the whole rule.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

This is not surprising that they're not going to change it.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I just want to know how many steps before the dive is no longer part of the catch. Is this a judgement?
I'm being serious. Ten steps is obviously enough. So how many? 5?
There has to be some uniformity to this questionable rule.

This is what I have wondered all along. The fact that he took three steps means that it is a catch all day long, .. so that should trump having to maintain possession when hitting the ground.

So how many steps makes the catch a catch?

Stupid stupid rules.

They screwed up on this one.

 

[tideh20heel]

Why exactly is it "necessary" to maintain a catch through contact with the ground? That was a relatively recent change and one that has been proven to be ill advised. That provision should be stricken and never revisited instead of repeated as if it is football dogma. You made a mistake. Make sure it doesn't happen again and lose the "smug , we are smarter than you attitude."

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

This is not surprising that they're not going to change it.

True, but it would be surprising if this call had gone against the Steelers or Giants . . . . . . and then they didnt change it.

 

[cowboyvic]

Tom Fox/The Dallas Morning News
Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant (88) lunges for the end zone after making a completion on fourth down in the fourth quarter of the NFC Divisional playoff at Lambeau Field in Green Bay Wisconsin, Sunday, January 11, 2015. The Packers challenged the play and the completion was overturned. The Cowboys lost 26-21.
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Cowboys chief operating officer Stephen Jones doesn’t sound too optimistic about that happening.

Jones was in Naples, Florida on Tuesday for a league competition committee meeting. He told SiriusXM NFL Radio that the group discussed the rule.

“It’s a very difficult rule,” Jones said. “In terms of the rule and how they applied it in its truest sense to the Dez catch, at the end of the day, is probably correct. There are a few plays that have happened over the past 5-10 years that this rule catches that you maybe wish it didn’t catch. But at the end of the day, when a receiver is going to the ground, he’s got to hang onto the ball, and a football move doesn’t necessarily trump that. He’s got to gain possession, he’s got to get his feet down and then he’s got to retain the catch all the way through the ground.

“It’s a tough one. I don’t know that anyone has any easy answers. Obviously, it is emotional to us. It’s one that is tough because you look at it and you think, ‘Wow, what a great catch by a great player and a fantastic athlete.’ But at the same time, that rule catches about 99 percent of the plays we want correctly. But there’s always going to be a few that you wish it didn’t get a hold of. We’ll continue to try to improve on the rule as we have and certainly continue to go over the tape and look at it and see if there is a way to do anything different. So far, to be honest, we haven’t come up with anything that would change it.”


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Are you freaking kidding me? and i am not talking about changing the rule. this fool Stephen Jones just agreed that the refs got it right when they took Dez catch away. no wonder they never made a public fuss about it. he agreed with it. nothing else for me to say.

 

[DallasEast]

meh.

Stephen Jones sits on the competition committee. The rule directly impacted a play involving his team. It's politically correct to state publicly that the rule should stand as is. He can allow others, like John Mara, to argue publicly about the controversial nature of the rule in his stead. What will prove important is how both Jones and the competition committee address the rule when they meet.

 

[Idgit]

The problem wasn't with the rule, anyway. The refs messed up the interpretation of it on review because they chose not to interpret the obvious 'football move' and a 'football move.' I don't think anything needed to be changed.

 

[locked&loaded]

The problem wasn't with the rule, anyway. The refs messed up the interpretation of it on review because they chose not to interpret the obvious 'football move' and a 'football move.' I don't think anything needed to be changed.

'But at the end of the day, when a receiver is going to the ground, he’s got to hang onto the ball, and a football move doesn’t necessarily trump that. He’s got to gain possession, he’s got to get his feet down and then he’s got to retain the catch all the way through the ground."

huhhhh

 

[speedkilz88]

The problem wasn't with the rule, anyway. The refs messed up the interpretation of it on review because they chose not to interpret the obvious 'football move' and a 'football move.' I don't think anything needed to be changed.

They need to limit what replay over-rules. They aren't suppose to make "judgment" calls but here they did. They over-ruled the judgment of the ref on the field with their own.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The rule isn't the problem. It's the blatant disregard for what the actual rule says that is the problem. He was tripped by the Green Bay defender and he advanced the ball which, by the rule, means it is a catch as he made 'an act common to the game.' Either one of those happening (the trip or advancing the ball) means the catch happened.





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