DMN's Gosselin: Bruce Carter could be Star

[TwoDeep3]

Well the thing with Goose is that it'd be nice, as a, you know, journalist, if he'd acknowledge when he's been wrong or when his opinion magically changes on something like this. If he ever admits something like "the more I think about it, my first impression was wrong, I think he'll be great in this role", or "I really spoke without thinking about the Cowboys ability to sign those draft picks", then it'll be the first time I remember hearing him say it.

I actually have a lot of respect for journalists (and fans) acknowledging when they've been wrong or when they change their minds. I get the feeling that with Goose, he'd have a harder time than Fonzie saying the words "I was wrong".

I appreciate your position on this.

My feeling is they can be wrong. It is an opinion.

And looking around this site, you don't see a great deal of people backing down about when they were wrong.

This has become less about the team and more about I am right over the years on this and other boards.

There was a mass exodus of people who refused to admit they were wrong recently. It was easier to blame the other side and create a new web site than to admit that for the last few years they have been woefully wrong.

Eating crow is an acquired taste, like scotch.

Now multiply that times ten for a guy in the press.

I chalk this up to human nature in a got 'cha society..

 

[honyock]

I appreciate your position on this.

My feeling is they can be wrong. It is an opinion.

And looking around this site, you don't see a great deal of people backing down about when they were wrong.

This has become less about the team and more about I am right over the years on this and other boards.

There was a mass exodus of people who refused to admit they were wrong recently. It was easier to blame the other side and create a new web site than to admit that for the last few years they have been woefully wrong.

Eating crow is an acquired taste, like scotch.

Now multiply that times ten for a guy in the press.

I chalk this up to human nature in a got 'cha society..

I agree with you that it's hard to do, it's human nature to get entrenched in an opinion and just not back down. That's especially true on a board like this. That's why it's impressive when someone does it and exposes themselves to the criticism that'll come their way. But do it with a sense of humor and it comes across so much better than the opposite.

And I say this as someone who thought Abram Elam would be a solid safety, and who thought at the time the Dez pick was a mistake.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I agree with you that it's hard to do, it's human nature to get entrenched in an opinion and just not back down. That's especially true on a board like this. That's why it's impressive when someone does it and exposes themselves to the criticism that'll come their way. But do it with a sense of humor and it comes across so much better than the opposite.

And I say this as someone who thought Abram Elam would be a solid safety, and who thought at the time the Dez pick was a mistake.

I wanted to draft Bobby Carpenter, thought the first season with Parcels would be 4-12, and actually believed in Quincy enough to argue with the toe-heads on Extremeskins.com that he would have a better career than Vick.

I've stopped using hallucinogenics, for the most part now days.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He's owes the Cowboy Zone an apology

From waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

There was a mass exodus of people who refused to admit they were wrong recently. It was easier to blame the other side and create a new web site than to admit that for the last few years they have been woefully wrong.

This is rich. Your bitterness shows. Did you take their exodus personally? If so, don't be so hard on yourself. I'm sure it wasn't all about you.

 

[DFWJC]

This started back in January....around the 12th.

I'm trying to track down the article or blog where he said what a disaster the 4-3 would be and especially how Dallas had no players really that fit it. he said it would take several years just to get the personnel in place.

My initial reply was also fairly polite:

"Rick,
Dallas has an ideal player to play the WIL in Bruce Carter. I know you must have known that, so I'm really not sure why you would say otherwise. It also requires a great ILB that can drop back in coverage when needed....and few are more qualified than Sean Lee. Ratliff is also far better suited for this scheme as a DT.
Just saying....
Thanks
John Caldwell"
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Then Gosselin said:

From: Gosselin, Rick [mailto:rgosselin@***BANNED-URL***]
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:31 AM
To: Caldwell, John
Subject: Re: Tampa2personnel

Ratliff is 32. The Bucs got rid of Sapp when he was 32. Carter was an inside backer who has to learn a new position. He's better off at SLB over the TE than WLB...


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Yesterday, I said very little, and still polite:
"Believe me now, Rick? (note: I bolded the Bruce Carter comments)
I enjoyed your article today."
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So, no big deal except how much he changed his tune about Carter. He may end up being right about Ratliff, though I did not contest his claims.

sorry about all the funky fonts. Cutting an pasting does that here sometimes.

 

[Hostile]

This is rich. Your bitterness shows. Did you take their exodus personally? If so, don't be so hard on yourself. I'm sure it wasn't all about you.

It had nothing to do with him. It was about quality.

 

[arglebargle]

If Gosselin didn't do this a lot, it wouldn't be much of an issue. He does do this a lot though, doesn't he?

Of course, he's paid to write stuff, and if there's not a legitimate interesting story, what are you going to do?

 

[TwoDeep3]

This is rich. Your bitterness shows. Did you take their exodus personally? If so, don't be so hard on yourself. I'm sure it wasn't all about you.

No, I didn't take it personally. When the kid that brought the football gets mad and goes home, you just get another football. Someone else has one and will run home and shag it.

But the point was made.

Being able to say you're right is more important than anything else. Even this imaginary quality defense of leaving.

 

[Idgit]

No, I didn't take it personally. When the kid that brought the football gets mad and goes home, you just get another football. Someone else has one and will run home and shag it.

But the point was made.

Being able to say you're right is more important than anything else. Even this imaginary quality defense of leaving.

Posters come and they go. So it goes.

You're right, though, that being right becomes more important than being accurate over time on internet forums. People get vested in arguments, and then it's hard to unvest when the circumstances change. As much as you may think people are prematurely dumping on Terrance Newman, or Jason Witten, or Demarcus Ware or whoever, there's a point where those players inevitably decline. As much as the OL might be a sore spot on a team, if it's addressed diligently enough, eventually the play in that position group improves. And sometimes you're just wrong and Drew Henson is not as good a player as Tony Romo.

Either way, once you're dug in, it takes some doing to dig out. I've considered starting an annual offseason "I was dead wrong about.." thread, but I thought it would just turn into a big snowball of posters telling me what I was wrong about, and that didn't seem like a lot of fun being at the bottom of a big dog pile. It only works if we all play.

 

[marchetta]

I get the feeling that with Goose, he'd have a harder time than Fonzie saying the words "I was wrong".

Goose Assist:

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[Hostile]

No, I didn't take it personally. When the kid that brought the football gets mad and goes home, you just get another football. Someone else has one and will run home and shag it.

But the point was made.

Being able to say you're right is more important than anything else. Even this imaginary quality defense of leaving.

I have never had a problem with admitting when I am wrong. Yet another swing and miss. It was entirely about quality. Some of us miss it. Make that, missed it, past tense. On both sides of the fence.

 

[justbob]

Can Bruce be a Star is the thread ..... Just in case you guys forgot or just decided to jump in with a bunch of bull....Thanks