Do Cowboys use Analytics?

[Hawkeye0202]

What is it and how it works? Admittedly I don't have a clue but curious if any members know if we are using it.


NFL GMs/scouts 'starting to detest' analytics

According to NFL draft insider Tony Pauline, some general managers and scouting departments are "starting to detest" analytics as a means of decision making and evaluation.

We know firsthand this isn't true for all teams, and Pauline makes it clear it pertains specifically to GMs who "come through the scouting ranks." Per Pauline, scouts and coaches he's spoken to since last week's East-West Shrine All-Star game remain of the belief analytics "have little to do with Xs and Os as well (as) the work ethic and personality of players or the ability of prospects to fit a specific position." Last February, the Philadelphia Eagles won the Super Bowl after placing a heavy emphasis on analytics to improve their decision-making processes. If what Pauline is hearing is true, it reinforces the fact that analytical teams have a decided advantage on their stone-age competition.
Source: Draft Analyst Blog
Jan 24 - 1:00 AM

 

[jujoboys]

https://247sports.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/Bolt/Report-Dallas-Cowboys-believers-in-analytics-35832799/

 

[Direwolf63]

If you are not moving ahead, you are falling behind.

Analytics is becoming more important as each year goes on. Hopefully the Cowboys are at the forefront. But I don't know this to be a fact.

Jerry needs all the help he can get.

 

[KingintheNorth]

marketing analytics? Yep.

player analytics?

I think they do. Since McClay's arrival, we tend to focus more on SPARQ ratings and willing to take chances on athleticism.

 

[Madzo]

What is it and how it works? Admittedly I don't have a clue but curious if any members know if we are using it.


NFL GMs/scouts 'starting to detest' analytics

According to NFL draft insider Tony Pauline, some general managers and scouting departments are "starting to detest" analytics as a means of decision making and evaluation.

We know firsthand this isn't true for all teams, and Pauline makes it clear it pertains specifically to GMs who "come through the scouting ranks." Per Pauline, scouts and coaches he's spoken to since last week's East-West Shrine All-Star game remain of the belief analytics "have little to do with Xs and Os as well (as) the work ethic and personality of players or the ability of prospects to fit a specific position." Last February, the Philadelphia Eagles won the Super Bowl after placing a heavy emphasis on analytics to improve their decision-making processes. If what Pauline is hearing is true, it reinforces the fact that analytical teams have a decided advantage on their stone-age competition.
Source: Draft Analyst Blog
Jan 24 - 1:00 AM

The Patriots have had an Analytics department for years now. The Eagles embraced analytics for their SB victory. I wish the Cowboys would use more analytics TBH.

 

[LocimusPrime]

I believe they started this year

 

[Nightman]

Using analytics is about going for 4th downs more and not punting in the other team's field and throwing more and going for 2 when down by 8..... so NO Dallas does not yet embrace analytics

Analytics destroys the "Book" and RKGarrett lives by the Book..... the Book gives Coaches cover from the media even when the Book is wrong

 

[BulletBob]

Not sure about analytics, but I know we use processes.

 

[links18]

What do analytics mean?

 

[nightrain]

All do

 

[LatinMind]

What is it and how it works? Admittedly I don't have a clue but curious if any members know if we are using it.


NFL GMs/scouts 'starting to detest' analytics

According to NFL draft insider Tony Pauline, some general managers and scouting departments are "starting to detest" analytics as a means of decision making and evaluation.

We know firsthand this isn't true for all teams, and Pauline makes it clear it pertains specifically to GMs who "come through the scouting ranks." Per Pauline, scouts and coaches he's spoken to since last week's East-West Shrine All-Star game remain of the belief analytics "have little to do with Xs and Os as well (as) the work ethic and personality of players or the ability of prospects to fit a specific position." Last February, the Philadelphia Eagles won the Super Bowl after placing a heavy emphasis on analytics to improve their decision-making processes. If what Pauline is hearing is true, it reinforces the fact that analytical teams have a decided advantage on their stone-age competition.
Source: Draft Analyst Blog
Jan 24 - 1:00 AM

its basically all these 'next gen' stats i been telling people were made for fantasy football purposes and media started using them as bar for stats in the nfl.

 

[JBS]

Yeah we use the same analytics from the 90s that Jimmy used..

Jason has made it a point to copy the system used 30 years ago

 

[Valkyr]

Analytics? Hell, Jerry is still trying to figure how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll pop.

 

[T-RO]

Stephen Jones spoke at an analytics conference about five years ago, so yes absolutely they do use deep data and have for some time.

How much their decision-making comes down to traditional thinking versus analytics...don't know.

 

[conner01]

We use them a lot
It’s a fine tool but has limitations
Figure out how to judge a players heart and desire and you have the greatest tool ever
I would like to see them use them more in game situations as nightmam mentioned
I think it is an advantage to go on 4th down much more often

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Using analytics is about going for 4th downs more and not punting in the other team's field and throwing more and going for 2 when down by 8..... so NO Dallas does not yet embrace analytics

Analytics destroys the "Book" and RKGarrett lives by the Book..... the Book gives Coaches cover from the media even when the Book is wrong

Remember hearing something during playoffs some teams see anything around the 45-yard line of opponent territory as auto 4-downs.

 

[CouchCoach]

What do analytics mean?

In the game, it first buzzed on the scene with a HS football coach, Kevin Kelly, at Pulaski Academy in Arkansas and the Joneses are very familiar with him and his ideas. He studied the analytical side of the game and the probabilities concerned going for it on 4th down and on sides kicking, which he does as steady game plan. Friend of mine went to one of his games and said it was wild.

I saw the interview with him and his research is sound and he's proven it by going to two state titles and has an 80% win rate. He can tell you the probabilities of almost anything in a football game and bases his decisions on those that favor him.

The analytical's being used by some of the teams take this to the player level and provide more measurement than just the usual football measureable's. Some don't like it and this relates back to Landry being the first NFL coach to use the computer to bring science into football. Some really hated him for that, felt it destroyed the soul of the game. Science in football? Blasphemy. Now, we know better and football has become science.

When your offering a draftee millions of dollars in guarantees, you'd want to remove as many of the variables as possible and some feel analytical's are the way to do that and the agents hate it because the GM's are using it as a value establisher.

 

[conner01]

Remember hearing something during playoffs some teams see anything around the 45-yard line of opponent territory as auto 4-downs.

If it’s 5 yds or less I go every time unless I’m playing a bad team with poor offense
There are times to play field position but for the most part I think you go for it
If you convert half of them you are gonna win games. If you know you are going it opens up options on 3rd down too.

 

[erod]

Stats tell 5% of the story.

Stats are for the lazy or clueless. The eyes tell all. Analytics are even worse, as PFF proves daily.

The league is waking up to this.

 

[ShiningStar]

wonder how it would have worked on Romo, or Brady. Wouldnt it have been funny if they said Leaf was better than Manning.