Do the Cowboys control their destiny for the 2nd BYE

[bula]

If the Boys win out their last 4 games, are the Boys guaranteed the BYE even if Seattle wins out as well and ties us at 12-4?

 

[SultanOfSix]

If the Boys win out their last 4 games, are the Boys guaranteed the BYE even if Seattle wins out as well and ties us at 12-4?

No. Seattle would have the better conference record.

 

[dogunwo]

Never mind. I misread what you wrote

 

[DCfaninDC]

No. Seattle would have the better conference record.

True...if Seattle wins out their games...they will have a better record...who wouldn't in that division...with Arizona, St Louis and San Fransisco...but the cowboys won't worry about that...they will just try to win theirs.

 

[Derinyar]

I think Seattle probably loses to San Diego. But we just need to take care of our business and let things fall as they will.

 

[Alexander]

No. Seattle would have the better conference record.

Right now the Seahawks are ahead of us simply because they have played one more conference game (6-3 versus 5-3).

If we win out and they do as well, it goes to the next tiebreaker, which is common opponents.

They have played Arizona (won), New York (won) and have Tampa Bay and Arizona again. If I understand the rules correctly, our earlier loss to the Giants would make us lose the tiebreaker.

 

[Hoofbite]

Right now the Seahawks are ahead of us simply because they have played one more conference game (6-3 versus 5-3).

If we win out and they do as well, it goes to the next tiebreaker, which is common opponents.

They have played Arizona (won), New York (won) and have Tampa Bay and Arizona again. If I understand the rules correctly, our earlier loss to the Giants would make us lose the tiebreaker.

Yep. That sucks that of those 4 games.....they have AZ twice and Dallas has NY twice.

And Really..... I don't want that #3 seed one bit.....Going to chicago would suck bad.

 

[Bryan8284]

Right now the Seahawks are ahead of us simply because they have played one more conference game (6-3 versus 5-3).

If we win out and they do as well, it goes to the next tiebreaker, which is common opponents.

They have played Arizona (won), New York (won) and have Tampa Bay and Arizona again. If I understand the rules correctly, our earlier loss to the Giants would make us lose the tiebreaker.

Yes, playing that extra Giants game loses the breaker for us.

 

[DCfaninDC]

Right now the Seahawks are ahead of us simply because they have played one more conference game (6-3 versus 5-3).

If we win out and they do as well, it goes to the next tiebreaker, which is common opponents.

They have played Arizona (won), New York (won) and have Tampa Bay and Arizona again. If I understand the rules correctly, our earlier loss to the Giants would make us lose the tiebreaker.

No, that is not how it goes...

First they check the standings..for the sake of the argument let's say we both end up 12-4

the next thing they check is the division record, so far Seattle has only lost to the 49ers and have two divisional games left...since we are assuming they will win out and win both...they will have a 5-1 division record which will give them the advantage.

it goes like this

record
head to head
division
confrence
common teams played
points for and allowed

 

[Alexander]

Yep. That sucks that of those 4 games.....they have AZ twice and Dallas has NY twice.

And Really..... I don't want that #3 seed one bit.....Going to chicago would suck bad.

It would not mean we would go to Chicago automatically.

Here is a theoretical situation:

Wildcard round - We host a game against the lowest seeded team (for now, it is the Giants amazingly enough), then the fourth seed would get Carolina (let's assume the Saints end up with that) at home.

The winner of the Saints/Carolina game would go to Chicago. We would travel to Seattle.

 

[bula]

They have played Arizona (won), New York (won) and have Tampa Bay and Arizona again. If I understand the rules correctly, our earlier loss to the Giants would make us lose the tiebreaker.

Ok So that means we really have to root for a Seattle loss in Arizona this weekend. That would still keep us tied in Conf record and even out the common oppts if they lose there and we should somehow lose one more - both ending in 11-5 records.

 

[Alexander]

No, that is not how it goes...

First they check the standings..for the sake of the argument let's say we both end up 12-4

the very next thing they check is the division record, so far Seattle has only lost to the 49ers and have two divisional games left...since we are assuming they will win out and win both...they will have a 5-1 division record which will give them the advantage.

No, you are wrong.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/6823575

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM OR AMONG DIVISION WINNERS
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

 

[theogt]

No, that is not how it goes...

First they check the standings..for the sake of the argument let's say we both end up 12-4

the very next thing they check is the division record, so far Seattle has only lost to the 49ers and have two divisional games left...since we are assuming they will win out and win both...they will have a 5-1 division record which will give them the advantage.

it goes like this

record
head to head
division
confrence
common teams played
points for and allowed

It goes like this:

Record
Head to Head
Conference Record
Common Opponents

 

[HDC]

Let's just win out and hope the Chargers do us a favor.

 

[sago1]

Cowboys hold destiny in their hands re winning NFC East title; we got it, we gotta keep it.

Situation different for most favorably seed. We must beat NO which moves up up to 3rd seed but rely on someone else to beat Seattle which currently #2 seeds. The reality is we must end up with best W/L record, 2nd only to Chicago (doubt they lose 1st seed ranking), if we are to keep #2 second which gives us home field advantage (until we must play Chicago) and a week off.

BTW: We had 10 days to get ready for Giant game and din't play our best football. Maybe we need consider the fact we play better w/o any time off which might allow us to lose concentration/fighting edge. Just a thought.

 

[Hoofbite]

It would not mean we would go to Chicago automatically.

Here is a theoretical situation:

Wildcard round - We host a game against the lowest seeded team (for now, it is the Giants amazingly enough), then the fourth seed would get Carolina (let's assume the Saints end up with that) at home.

The winner of the Saints/Carolina game would go to Chicago. We would travel to Seattle.

I thought the #3 played #6 and that winner headed to the #1 seeded team.....

That was how I understood it.....any event, I really wouldn't like to go to chicago.

 

[Gordon]

Yep. That sucks that of those 4 games.....they have AZ twice and Dallas has NY twice.

And Really..... I don't want that #3 seed one bit.....Going to chicago would suck bad.

As a #3 seed, we wouldn't have to face Chicago until the NFC Championship game, assuming they hold onto the #1 spot. No matter what in the 2nd round, they play the lowest seed available which would be the winner of the 4th seed vs 5th seed if we were to beat the 6th seed.

 

[Rampage]

I think Seattle probably loses to San Diego. But we just need to take care of our business and let things fall as they will.

if the chargers beat the seahawks and we win out. will we have the #2 seed?

 

[Gordon]

if the chargers beat the seahawks and we win out. will we have the #2 seed?

Yes, because that would make the Seahawks 11-5, and if we were to win out it would mean we beat the Saints so they would be atleast 11-5 as well, and we would be 12-4.

 

[jazzcat22]

No, that is not how it goes...

First they check the standings..for the sake of the argument let's say we both end up 12-4

the next thing they check is the division record, so far Seattle has only lost to the 49ers and have two divisional games left...since we are assuming they will win out and win both...they will have a 5-1 division record which will give them the advantage.

it goes like this

record
head to head
division
confrence
common teams played
points for and allowed

We're in separate Divisions, so that does not apply here.