Do we have the players???

[NextGenBoys]

So I think it is pretty acknowledged around here that we will be focusing the run more next year, and featuring backs and TE's more, something that was a staple of the 90's offenses.

We always hear how simplistic the offense was, yet it was extremely efficient simply because the players were very good. All of the Garrett haters like to say how his offense was too simplistic. (I think this is baloney) All these claims that we always ran deep, never adjusted, and never ran the ball are blown way out of proportion. It doesnt matter how complicated or simple your offense is if you dont execute your assignments properly.

My question is, do we have talented enough players to run a 90's offense that we are supposedly shifting towards that style of game and unlike our 07 team??

We aren't going to have the gamebreaker at WR like we had in TO. Like him or not, he put alot of points on the board. We have tons of talent, but the Eagles and NY (assuming they trade for Braylon or get a number 1) have made great strides in improving their team and this before the draft. We are banking on addition by subtraction and a solid draft.

For the record I think the two pieces that are going to make us a successful are Felix Jones and Martellus Bennett. If those two can come out and build upon last year, we are going to be tough to beat even if we are running a simple offense. Those players are most definitely "wow" players.

Just a few thoughts before the draft...

 

[Disturbed]

Simple Answer -- NO...

We do not have the main staple of that time. A dominate offensive line. That offensive line would just run over people which set up everything else. And late in games when we needed to control the clock, no problem.

If you want to recreate the early 90's team, you must start by drafting a powerful and dominating offensive line.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Felix will be the X factor for this team. I'm getting as many touches that I can to him. Everytime he catches/runs the ball it seems like it's at least 8 yards every time. Can't wait to see him in 16 games, hopefully 19.

 

[Disturbed]

Our offensive line is getting old fast...lets take a look at the ages of the line during this season... Flozell Adams 34, Kyle Kosier 31, Andre Gurode 31, Leonard Davis 31, and Mark Colombo 31. Time keeps on tickin'...

The primary backups or draft picks need to step up soon... McQuistan 26, Free 26, Proctor 26, and Holland 29.

We need good "young" offensive lineman...spend half the current draft choices to get them. Our future depends on it.

 

[DallasDomination]

So I think it is pretty acknowledged around here that we will be focusing the run more next year, and featuring backs and TE's more, something that was a staple of the 90's offenses.

We always hear how simplistic the offense was, yet it was extremely efficient simply because the players were very good. All of the Garrett haters like to say how his offense was too simplistic. (I think this is baloney) All these claims that we always ran deep, never adjusted, and never ran the ball are blown way out of proportion. It doesnt matter how complicated or simple your offense is if you dont execute your assignments properly.

My question is, do we have talented enough players to run a 90's offense that we are supposedly shifting towards that style of game and unlike our 07 team??

We aren't going to have the gamebreaker at WR like we had in TO. Like him or not, he put alot of points on the board. We have tons of talent, but the Eagles and NY (assuming they trade for Braylon or get a number 1) have made great strides in improving their team and this before the draft. We are banking on addition by subtraction and a solid draft.

For the record I think the two pieces that are going to make us a successful are Felix Jones and Martellus Bennett. If those two can come out and build upon last year, we are going to be tough to beat even if we are running a simple offense. Those players are most definitely "wow" players.

Just a few thoughts before the draft...

I dont have a problem with anything you said...:starspin

 

[twentytwo]

So I think it is pretty acknowledged around here that we will be focusing the run more next year, and featuring backs and TE's more, something that was a staple of the 90's offenses.

We always hear how simplistic the offense was, yet it was extremely efficient simply because the players were very good. All of the Garrett haters like to say how his offense was too simplistic. (I think this is baloney) All these claims that we always ran deep, never adjusted, and never ran the ball are blown way out of proportion. It doesnt matter how complicated or simple your offense is if you dont execute your assignments properly.

My question is, do we have talented enough players to run a 90's offense that we are supposedly shifting towards that style of game and unlike our 07 team??

We aren't going to have the gamebreaker at WR like we had in TO. Like him or not, he put alot of points on the board. We have tons of talent, but the Eagles and NY (assuming they trade for Braylon or get a number 1) have made great strides in improving their team and this before the draft. We are banking on addition by subtraction and a solid draft.

For the record I think the two pieces that are going to make us a successful are Felix Jones and Martellus Bennett. If those two can come out and build upon last year, we are going to be tough to beat even if we are running a simple offense. Those players are most definitely "wow" players.

Just a few thoughts before the draft...

I know we lost TO......but I think we're gaining two offensive weapons that we didn't get to see a whole lot last year.

 

[Hoofbite]

One thing I like about the "simplistic" offense argument is that it absolutely gives no credit to the defense.

No matter what, the defense loses. As long as the the offense executes, the defense doesn't ever win. Sounds great doesn't it?

Problem is, the defense is out there to make sure teams do not execute. And defenses are always looking for new ways to get the job done. Just look at that dumb *** stand-up presnap stuff that the Giants were doing a year or two ago.

Defenses are always trying something new and as a result, offenses need to try and keep pace. Simply telling guys to get out there and execute every down isn't practical. Very few teams have had the luxury of being able to rely on that because it takes a very good QB.

 

[yentl911]

I do think we need some more young talent in the Ol across the board. But, I know these guys are in their early 30's but for an Ol that can be your prime years of performance.

being able to mix our offensive gameplan up will help everything out quite a bit. I think we were very predictable last year and that needs to change.

We don't have the OL obviously that we had in the early 90's but we still have some athletes that can make plays.

I would like to see more roll outs, play-action passes, screens, etc...to keep the D off balance. A Defense that is off balance and cannot key your tendancies has to play with a bit of caution which slows their reaction time.

This offense will be very dynamic this year IMO and as stated above - having a healthy Felix back, and now that Bennett has more experience, will be a big plus.

 

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Short answer - we don't have the players.
Long answer- we might have the players.

It comes down to the O-line for me. Are they talented enough? I think so,the problem with this position is three main things:

Penalties
Mental errors and missed assignments
Lack of depth

If those things can be fixed I am very optimistic where this team can go.

 

[malbis030347]

you hit it on the head as to why Garret appears so predictable with his playcalling....those 90's teams he played on were based on execution... after the huddle, the team would line up and basically say to the defense--" we know you know what play is coming...now try to stop it!'
and Garret still calls the game like when he played back than but we are not very good at execution as was evident last year..

 

[CATCH17]

Our offensive line is getting old fast...lets take a look at the ages of the line during this season... Flozell Adams 34, Kyle Kosier 31, Andre Gurode 31, Leonard Davis 31, and Mark Colombo 31. Time keeps on tickin'...

The primary backups or draft picks need to step up soon... McQuistan 26, Free 26, Proctor 26, and Holland 29.

We need good "young" offensive lineman...spend half the current draft choices to get them. Our future depends on it.

31 is still pretty young for linemen.


I imagine they have at least 5 more years in them.

 

[Monster Heel]

you hit it on the head as to why Garret appears so predictable with his playcalling....those 90's teams he played on were based on execution... after the huddle, the team would line up and basically say to the defense--" we know you know what play is coming...now try to stop it!'
and Garret still calls the game like when he played back than but we are not very good at execution as was evident last year..

This team also isn't close to that talent level. Counting the OL as a unit, those teams were better than the current team is across the board offensively except at TE.

 

[Monster Heel]

31 is still pretty young for linemen.


I imagine they have at least 5 more years in them.

That's assuming they don't start getting hurt. I'd really like you to be right, but Adams has blown out his knee before and was largely awful last year. Columbo was able to be pulled off scrap heap because he couldn't stay healthy. Although he's always played since he became the starter here, I get the feeling that he's nicked up a lot. Kosier's injury (re-injury) last year goes without saying.

 

[EPL0c0]

Players...yes

Heart...who knows

 

[burmafrd]

Colombo has been a total stud and I hate to break this to you but FOOTBALL players are ALWAYS dinged up. It comes down to how well they play when dinged and Colombo has shown there.
31 is prime age for an O lineman. You do not see real drop due to age untill around 35.
While we still have to worry about cap issues and such we right now have as stable a O line as we have had in years. The key is consitency and attention to detail- in other words no blown assignments and stupid penalties.
We have the size and strength on this O line to dominate any D line in the league as long as we execute.

 

[khiladi]

Let me say it once again:Garrett's offensive philosophy is nothing like the Cowboys of the 90s. Not only was his offense crappy at execution, it lacks a play-action pass, and the OL scheme, even as it relates to the running game, is totally contrary to what we ran in the 90s. TO had no impact on how those schemes were deployed.The fact is, people confuse simplicity of the Cowboys 90s with predictability. While the offensive formations may have been simple, the plays the Cowboys and Norn ran out of there were anything but predictable. Play-action was a staple of the offense. Further, Troy Aikman never operated out of the shot-gun, while Garrett has Romo in the shot-gun all the time. They were deceptive from the very snap, while Romo in shotgun limits the actual unpredictability of the offense, thus the always-seen shot-gun draw that got us nothing.If it was simply about execution, then we could run Deon Anderson all day, and should be able to get a TD. THERE IS A REASON THE COWBOYS FIRED DAVE SCHULA AND BROUGHT IN NORV TURNER. The fact is, people argue execution when the fact is, not executing properly is the result of many things, among them, the defense knowing exactly what is coming. A defense can force bad execution.

 

[khiladi]

Jason Garrett, so far, is not the next-coming of Norv Turner, but the next coming of Mike Martz, where the offense puts up great yards, but the QB gets killed in the process. And when you play a great defense, the yardage itself stops coming.

 

[Lodeus]

Players...yes

Heart...who knows

Indeed.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Let me say it once again:Garrett's offensive philosophy is nothing like the Cowboys of the 90s. Not only was his offense crappy at execution, it lacks a play-action pass, and the OL scheme, even as it relates to the running game, is totally contrary to what we ran in the 90s. TO had no impact on how those schemes were deployed.The fact is, people confuse simplicity of the Cowboys 90s with predictability. While the offensive formations may have been simple, the plays the Cowboys and Norn ran out of there were anything but predictable. Play-action was a staple of the offense. Further, Troy Aikman never operated out of the shot-gun, while Garrett has Romo in the shot-gun all the time. They were deceptive from the very snap, while Romo in shotgun limits the actual unpredictability of the offense, thus the always-seen shot-gun draw that got us nothing.If it was simply about execution, then we could run Deon Anderson all day, and should be able to get a TD. THERE IS A REASON THE COWBOYS FIRED DAVE SCHULA AND BROUGHT IN NORV TURNER. The fact is, people argue execution when the fact is, not executing properly is the result of many things, among them, the defense knowing exactly what is coming. A defense can force bad execution.

Nothing against you personally, but I disagree with pretty much everything you have to say that is Cowboys related, especially Garrett so I'll just leave it at that.

And I never said we ran a 90's offense last year. I said we are shifting towards a more 90's related offense in this upcoming season. Two completely different things.

 

[Future]

I know we lost TO......but I think we're gaining two offensive weapons that we didn't get to see a whole lot last year.

Call me a pessimist...but Garrett hasn't shown me anything to say that he is capable of getting the ball to all of these weapons.