Do we need a #1 receiver?

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Do you all think folks are too pressed over whether Roy will be a #1. Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Philly consistenly do well without one and the Pats won their Super Bowls without one. Indy and the NY Giants did or do have them so it seems it can get done either way. The QB and both lines seem to be what's critical. Love to hear your thoughts. I wouldn't be unhappy if we drafted O line with the first 2 picks we have though I admit I would love to get some speed on Offense to go with Felix.
 

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btgboys41;2723830 said:
Do you all think folks are too pressed over whether Roy will be a #1. Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Philly consistenly do well without one and the Pats won their Super Bowls without one. Indy and the NY Giants did or do have them so it seems it can get done either way. The QB and both lines seem to be what's critical. Love to hear your thoughts. I wouldn't be unhappy if we drafted O line with the first 2 picks we have though I admit I would love to get some speed on Offense to go with Felix.

While if you look that last time the Patriots actually won a SuperBowl they had 4-5 guys that caught passes and made plays all year. Funny thing they add a Randy Moss and they loose. When they had solid wr core and where running Givens; Brown Patten etc they won

Just saying
 

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I still maintain that WR is the most overrated position in football, outside of kickers of course. Not that they aren't important, but they are the least involved players on the offense on a play-by-play basis. If the ball isn't coming to them then they are nothing but decoys on every other play, unless they are blocking I guess.

Anyway, all this fuss over Owens and how we can replace him is wasted energy IMO. Get the O-Line in place and we are set.
 

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Do we need a #1 WR? Forget that! What we need are several WRs (plural) to make this roster more competitive. After all, the NFL is a passing league and the Cowboys have a solid QB roster in place, a solid RB roster in place, and are adequate on the starting OL (but its depth needs addressing). But WR is the CLEAR question mark on offense, and all up-and-down the WR roster, because there are question marks at EVERY starting-WR spot, which only means the depth of that roster is that much worse.

#1 WR, Roy Williams: Came in last year without partaking in the offseason program, played on a bum foot and was never really written into the game plan. Has the injury healed? Can Garrett figure out how to work him in? Can he go beyond the flashes of greatness he has shown in his past and put a full season of top-notch WR-football together?

#2 WR, Miles Austin: Babe you've got to let me know...will you stay or will you go (will you stay or will you go now)? And if you stay, will you stay healthy? While Austin has posted a great yards-after-catch statistic, that's only by playing against defenses as a come-off-the-bench player. Many players post great stats when they have some ability but are not taken seriously by defenses when they come in for spot duty. But as a #2 WR, now that defenses will game plan for him, can he post those same kind of numbers, that is if he stays - and stays healthy if he stays?

#3 WR, Patrick Crayton: If this WR's play was as big as his mouth he'd be Terrell Owens. Crayton is the perfect example for why you should worry about Austin. As a #3 slot WR, Crayton had mad numbers in 2007; but when elevated to #2 WR in 2008, he flopped. In fact the higher he climbed the depth chart the more he talked, the more the media wanted his sound bites, and the worse he produced. So I don't see him as more than a #3 or #4 WR. In that role he will be less relevant and his sound bites will carry less weight. But can he worry more about playing better and less about speaking his mind?

#4 WR, Sam Hurd: Injuries really set him back in 2008. It's a shame because i see him as neck-and-neck with Austin. Both are similarly unproven players that have made plays in games, but only in spot duty. Like Crayton, he's a potential #3 or #4 WR. But can he put potential in the past and production in the future?

Everyone else we have at WR is a clear project still, so they're not worth commenting on. CLEAR PROJECT STILL is all that needs to be said. And the top 4 WRs listed above are question marks themselves; now imagine if any of them is lost to injury – and Dallas then needs to play clear projects to fill the void. Sorry but that's a problem. So Dallas DOES need WRs in the draft for any part of the WR roster they can get.
 

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Kangaroo;2723844 said:
While if you look that last time the Patriots actually won a SuperBowl they had 4-5 guys that caught passes and made plays all year. Funny thing they add a Randy Moss and they loose. When they had solid wr core and where running Givens; Brown Patten etc they won

Just saying
People dont remember that enough.
 

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Ok here are my thoughts on the issue is a great WR a good thing to have darn tottin it generally been the case in the NFL but I want to qualify a few things most Great WR's now days seem to be Primadona's and not worth the toll they take on there team.

That is why I love Irvin he was always about the bottom line winning; I think Larry Fitzgerald is from that mold he is kind of old school and there are a few more WR I would place in that class. The rest seem to be shelfish and seem to melt down causing major team drama the look at me hey i am a great wr.

Then the game has changed as well and is a passing league as well. If you can run the ball effectively and then run out 3-4 guys that can catch 40+ balls a year you have a good chance of making the playoffs and winning every year. What you have is 3-4 guys making plays any given week which is more pressure on a defense when any guy can go off in any game.

Like I said it is my view on the subject
 

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btgboys41;2723830 said:
Do you all think folks are too pressed over whether Roy will be a #1. Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Philly consistenly do well without one and the Pats won their Super Bowls without one. Indy and the NY Giants did or do have them so it seems it can get done either way. The QB and both lines seem to be what's critical. Love to hear your thoughts. I wouldn't be unhappy if we drafted O line with the first 2 picks we have though I admit I would love to get some speed on Offense to go with Felix.
You're comparing us to teams that relied heavily on having a dominant defense that can hold teams to single digits and the teens on the regular which is what we've lacked.



Even the Patriots only had an average offense their first two SB runs. It wasnt til their last one in '04 they actually had an offense that put up alot of points and alot of that had to do with Corey Dillon.
 

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Kangaroo;2723844 said:
While if you look that last time the Patriots actually won a SuperBowl they had 4-5 guys that caught passes and made plays all year. Funny thing they add a Randy Moss and they loose. When they had solid wr core and where running Givens; Brown Patten etc they won

Just saying
They had something we don't have - I'll let you figure out what that is.
 
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