Do we win either game without McCann?

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This positive swing of emotion and success is great.

Garrett has changed the landscape with the Cowboys.

But do we win either game without the big plays from McCann?

When he made his plays in both games things were not looking good for us, .. and then BANG!, he changes the momentum in the game on one length of the field play!!

Gotta wonder.
 
I don't know about if we win or not without McCan, but it's another example of how we don't know what we have until someone gets injured (Austin, Free).

Is our scouting and/or coaches that bad at evaluating our own talent?
 
We did tend to stick with our starters no matter how bad they were playing w/o question. Also just thought Wade didn't have a clue how to run a high profile NFL team. The Cowboys are expected to win; don't give me that garbage about how good we were in 07 going 13-3 & don't mention that a player was a pro bowler. It's how they are playing now.

Believe that Wade lost this team early in the preseason. Frankly, it could simply be he didn't have the players in pads often enough, so they weren't ready to really hit & play at a high level. They took the season for granted but the team had changed enough, and aged enough particularly on the OL, that changes needed to be made & accountability by each player to each other and to the team.

Don't believe we make the playoffs this year nor even end up 7-9. We've got too many problem areas which we won't be able to disguise against some of the good teams remaining on our schedule. But since it obvious we will end up with at least a mid level draft pick (much earlier then we've seen in some years) in every round, we got a good chance to add some quality players--assuming scouting department & Jerry don't screw it up & we can't be sure of that.
 
WV Cowboy;3712445 said:
This positive swing of emotion and success is great.

Garrett has changed the landscape with the Cowboys.

But do we win either game without the big plays from McCann?

When he made his plays in both games things were not looking good for us, .. and then BANG!, he changes the momentum in the game on one length of the field play!!

Gotta wonder.

Hard to say but no doubt it was a momentum swing the Cowboys needed.
 
Zman5;3712458 said:
I don't know about if we win or not without McCan, but it's another example of how we don't know what we have until someone gets injured (Austin, Free).

Is our scouting and/or coaches that bad at evaluating our own talent?

Did you think McCann did enough to be the starter over Jenkins at the beginning of the year? Do you think he has done enough to start in place of Jenkins now?
 
joseephuss;3712492 said:
Did you think McCann did enough to be the starter over Jenkins at the beginning of the year? Do you think he has done enough to start in place of Jenkins now?

I think so. He has more confidence and appears to be putting in more film work. He needs to be on the field. The guy makes plays.
 
McCann is exactly what is wrong with our GM.

We cut McCann to make room for crap picks from 2009 who we finally ended up kicking to the curb as a last ditch attempt to stir things up before Wade got the axe. This is one piece I really miss about BP - didn't matter where you were picked, if you sucked you got cut.
 
Zman5;3712458 said:
I don't know about if we win or not without McCan, but it's another example of how we don't know what we have until someone gets injured (Austin, Free).

Is our scouting and/or coaches that bad at evaluating our own talent?

Well if this was a case of simply mis-evaluating talent, there are a lot of teams in the same boat right now (especially Baltimore).
 
I'm just glad someone is finally playing the young guys. Wade's approach with rookies has always annoyed me.
 
I'm happy for McCanns but I don't think 1 play vs the Giants and the return is going to force the Cowboys to sit Newman or Jenkins as full time starters. I think some are getting carried away. I'm not saying McCanns will develop into a top CB or not but for now he provides some depth in the defense and a special teams player.
 
TheCount;3712535 said:
I'm just glad someone is finally playing the young guys. Wade's approach with rookies has always annoyed me.

McCann came in because of an injury and plays special teams, Dallas put AOA out there was well and he is a rookie. Dez is getting playing time and he is a rookie and as time goes they will see more time. They are not holding players up
 
Doomsday101;3712536 said:
I'm happy for McCanns but I don't think 1 play vs the Giants and the return is going to force the Cowboys to sit Newman or Jenkins as full time starters. I think some are getting carried away. I'm not saying McCanns will develop into a top CB or not but for now he provides some depth in the defense and a special teams player.

Yeah, talk about starting McCann based off that one interception is pretty premature. He looked pretty average for the rest of the game imo. It's nice to have a guy with some playmaking ability, but right now he hasn't proven a whole lot other than possibly being a special teams dynamo. That's still a very welcome find, but we need to hold off on declaring him any sort of answer at DB.
 
Doomsday101;3712541 said:
McCann came in because of an injury and plays special teams, Dallas put AOA out there was well and he is a rookie. Dez is getting playing time and he is a rookie and as time goes they will see more time. They are not holding players up

Not really. I didn't say they don't play them, I said I don't like the approach. It's part of the reason guys that can't play stick around for years as well. They are never battle tested so you never know.
 
AbeBeta;3712502 said:
McCann is exactly what is wrong with our GM.

We cut McCann to make room for crap picks from 2009 who we finally ended up kicking to the curb as a last ditch attempt to stir things up before Wade got the axe. This is one piece I really miss about BP - didn't matter where you were picked, if you sucked you got cut.

That's very strange logic.

Every other team in the NFL passed on this guy. We cut him. Another team picked him up. They cut him.

This happens all the time. How many teams had the opportunity to cut a scrub to sign Miles Austin when he came out?
 
TheCount;3712545 said:
Not really. I didn't say they don't play them, I said I don't like the approach. It's part of the reason guys that can't play stick around for years as well. They are never battle tested so you never know.

Most coaches do not like to play rookies alot yes there are exceptions but Rookies tend to make alot more mistakes. coaches go by what they see day in and day out with players they do have a better clue than a fan sitting at home saying I wished we got to see him, they have they know what these guys know from the class room and practice fields and when a guy starts showing he is ready to see some playing time they do.

Fans are very quick to annoit players but just as quick to turn on them when they make a mistake. Hell people praised Jenkins play last year and now some holler about cutting him? It gets to be down right funny hearing some of the comments based on knee jerk reactions
 
...in your approach on rookies.

How soon we forget about Gronkowski's mistake.

What is more ideal is having a good thumb on the evaluation of your vets and knowing when to cut the cord.

There are vets on this team who have become long in the tooth, but more importantly we need their replacements who are capable - not pro bowl, but capable.

It's amazing what youth can do to overcome a lack of experience and on the flipside whqat experience will do to overcome youthful energy.

The secret is to be able to identify the tipping point when you go from wily vet to just plain old slow and overmatched. It's a problem all NFL coaches face.
 
Two plays does not a career make, but I get the OP's point, and yes, this kid shows a lot of promise.

Lots of Jerry bashing in this thread, but give him a break on this one. This kid is a great find, and he's HERE thanks to Jerry. I want to see more from him in the DB role because he is showing tremendous ability, and the kid appears to be a ball hawk. Not all plays have gone his way, but he wipes his memory clean and moves onto the next one. I love his style and approach to the game.

My only fear is the curse of the poodle (Campo). I don't want Dave Campo anywhere near McCann out of fear that his insticts will drop off, like they seem to have with Jenkins after he first appeared to be a great pickup.
 
I don't believe Dallas wins the Giants game without his play. I have a feeling they would have pulled through against the Lions though.
 
Shinywalrus;3712548 said:
That's very strange logic.

Every other team in the NFL passed on this guy. We cut him. Another team picked him up. They cut him.

This happens all the time. How many teams had the opportunity to cut a scrub to sign Miles Austin when he came out?

The point here is that we liked him, he performed well, yet we cut him to save a spot for guy who played like crap.
 
Don Corleone;3712605 said:
Two plays does not a career make, but I get the OP's point, and yes, this kid shows a lot of promise.

Lots of Jerry bashing in this thread, but give him a break on this one. This kid is a great find, and he's HERE thanks to Jerry. I want to see more from him in the DB role because he is showing tremendous ability, and the kid appears to be a ball hawk. Not all plays have gone his way, but he wipes his memory clean and moves onto the next one. I love his style and approach to the game.

My only fear is the curse of the poodle (Campo). I don't want Dave Campo anywhere near McCann out of fear that his insticts will drop off, like they seem to have with Jenkins after he first appeared to be a great pickup.

I agree completely. I so hope that Campo is shown the door next year.
 

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