Do you Home Brew?

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Do any of you guys home brew?

I know a few people that do. (we brewed some beer when I was in Austin a couple of weeks ago) I know some other people that make wine too. Today, I'm going to make a run at making wine.

I picked up a Master Vinter Winemaking Kit (the six gallon kit, not the small batch) and a WineExpert - Eclipse Barossa Valley Shiraz Reciepe Kit.

There are a lot of different wine recipe kits. Cheaper ones and more expensive ones. Many great Shiraz wines come out of Australia's Barossa Valley. Some of them are incredible and I really enjoy them, so I splurged and got the Barossa Valley Shiraz kit. I probably should have started with a cheaper one since I'm sure I will wreck this first attempt! :laugh:

Anyhow, do any of you guys brew beer or make wine? (or illegally distill spirits? :laugh: )
 

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Here it is almost ready for fermentation. The stuff in the top is bubbles and French Oak woodchips. I hadn't put the yeast in just yet. It has a cheese cloth like mesh bag with all the grapeskins and stuff in it.

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Here it is finished with the airlock installed.

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Now I have to let it ferment for the next seven days. Stirring it once a day. After seven days, I will need to rack it into the glass carboy and add some other stuff included these French Oak wood cubes. Very interesting process.
 

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Your floor is filthy!! ;)

Wish I could help, Sam. I tried that gig once but patience got the best of me.
 

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We do not home brew, but thankfully, our younger son has a friend that does. lol. He has helped that friend out a time or two in making his moonshine, and brought some benefits home. It is mighty tasty, gotta say. :p

Oh and Sam, pay no attention to Seven. ;) Your floor is beautiful. It looks very clean, compared to our hospital white tile floors that show every speck of everything unimaginable. LOL :thumbup:
 

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I am an amateur home-brewer... And by that I mean I just use the mr. Beer kit which essentially has you start with mixing the wort.

Still a fun hobby. My first batch was full of mistakes and came out tasting like Redd's Apple Ale, which is why I don't respect that brew.
 

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Your floor is filthy!! ;)

Wish I could help, Sam. I tried that gig once but patience got the best of me.

lol, I just spent the last couple of hours making six gallons of wine right there on that floor. You should have seen me wrestling with the five gallons of grape juice trying to get it in the bubbler through a funnel! hah. There were two of us and it was still quite difficult! Then all the powders, wood chips, (grapeskins where messy too) and cleaning and sanitizing all the equipment. (there is quite a bit of it)

Believe me, I'm not a clean freak, but my house is generally more picked up than most people I know. hah (most people are pigs! o_O :laugh: )
 

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We do not home brew, but thankfully, our younger son has a friend that does. lol. He has helped that friend out a time or two in making his moonshine, and brought some benefits home. It is mighty tasty, gotta say. :p

Oh and Sam, pay no attention to Seven. ;) Your floor is beautiful. It looks very clean, compared to our hospital white tile floors that show every speck of everything unimaginable. LOL :thumbup:

Moonshine huh? hah I would have to have a house to do that. I'm currently in an apt as I sold my house in July of last year. Once I buy another, I might make a run at Beer first. Then if I feel like...



I'll try some Moonshine too. :)
 

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I am an amateur home-brewer... And by that I mean I just use the mr. Beer kit which essentially has you start with mixing the wort.

Still a fun hobby. My first batch was full of mistakes and came out tasting like Redd's Apple Ale, which is why I don't respect that brew.

lol, that's hilarious. You don't respect a brand because you're screw up tastes like their product. :laugh::lmao::lmao2:

I will look up Mr. Beer kit. I have no idea what "kit" my friend uses, but it has this big funnel bubble looking thing it ferments in. He bought his stuff from Austin Homebrew. (which is where by bought the 36 bottles for my wine since they were the cheapest)
 

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Welp, that first attempt failed. Overnight it blew the airlock off as it got full a bubbles, oak powder, and probably yeast. Couldn't release the CO2 and blew the airlock off spraying wine everywhere. Good thing I had it contained in a closet hah. Damn, that sucks.
 

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Welp, that first attempt failed. Overnight it blew the airlock off as it got full a bubbles, oak powder, and probably yeast. Couldn't release the CO2 and blew the airlock off spraying wine everywhere. Good thing I had it contained in a closet hah. Damn, that sucks.

Sorry to hear that. Keep us informed until you make a decent wine. :)
 

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If you don't have flies buzzing around or dead inside your batch then you're just fooling around.
 

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If you don't have flies buzzing around or dead inside your batch then you're just fooling around.

No flies yet, but I've got plenty of dead in it. :)

I just read that that didn't doom the batch. Though it's too late for it now since I poured it out. (I was already late for work, just had to clean it up and go)

Sigh, Maybe I will try again hah. Need to get a big bag to cover it up though. Can't deal with exploding wine in my kitchen closet. hah
 

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So, I started again. This time I bought a 7.9G bucket since the Big Mouth Bubbler is only 6.5G and there is 6G of wine. That didn't leave much room and part of the reason the top blew off during fermentation.

I also picked up a pump to pump the wine since using a auto-siphon can be a pain at times. (especially if the wine hasn't been degassed)

Having the pump means plastic containers are out (pumping into one anyhow), so I got a second six gallon carboy.

Those damn things are unwieldy and heavy when filled with six gallons of wine, so I got a small black dolly to move the containers around.

Here are some new pictures.

This is the wine with the oak wood shaving in it. As you can see, much more room in this bucket than what was in that big mouth bubbler.

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This is right after I pitched the yeast on top. The yeast turned dark as soon as it hit the wine. That's why it looks like black pepper sitting on top.

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So, it needs at least seven days I believe to ferment. So, it sounds like next Saturday I might be able to rack it to a glass carboy. Though, maybe it goes back to the bubbler since I have wood chips that need to go in too. I'm going to have to get my ducks in a row to ensure I do this correctly.
 

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Welp, that first attempt failed. Overnight it blew the airlock off as it got full a bubbles, oak powder, and probably yeast. Couldn't release the CO2 and blew the airlock off spraying wine everywhere. Good thing I had it contained in a closet hah. Damn, that sucks.

I did the same thing with my first batch of beer. I had it in the garage and heard the bung hit the ceiling. From that point I started connecting a blow-off tube into a bottle of sanitized water. Some yeast can get real busy and make a mess.
 

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Interesting.

Keep with the updates, I'd like to see how this turns out.

I stumbled upon a much simple method I think I might play around with:

http://fivegallonideas.com/1-minute-wine-recipe/

A couple of things. This guy is right, but well. Yeah, no.
You DON’T need exotic chemicals like potassium sorbate and sodium metabisulfite and campden tablets and acid blend all the other weird extras home wine makers are adding these days.
This is true. You don't need potassium sorbate. (wine stablizer) Potassium sorbate basically causes the fermentation (yeast converting sugar to alcohol and CO2) to cease. If you bottle (or completely seal) the wine in a container without an air lock, and there is still sugar and yeast in the wine. It will continue to ferment which does a lot of things you don't want. Including continue to increase in pressure. You can occasionally release the pressure, but that exposes the wine to oxygen which causes oxidization. Oxidization converts wine to vinegar. (yeah, unless you're going to cook with it, you don't want that)

You can buy a pound of it shipped for about $17. You use very little.

Sodium metabisulfite is used as a sanitize and used to prevent oxidation. You want to sanitize anything you use to make wine as any bacteria will contaminate your wine and make it bad and make you sick. Also to note (and you can look this up) hot water alone helps, but it's not the best. Using soap (as he suggests) is not good as soap has perfumes and your wine will pick up those flavors. You can buy a pound of it shipped for $7. That can be used to make A LOT of wine. Why wouldn't you invest $7 to make lots wine that is safe to drink?

Do you think the pilgrims who landed at Plymouth rock used this chemical warfare when they made wine?

Very true. They did not. Their wine wasn't very palatable either, but that's all they had and sometimes you had to drink alcoholic beverages so you weren't drinking tainted water that will make you sick. I promise you, if the pilgrims at Plymouth Rock had today's wine kits, they would use them over the harsh means they used back then.

You DON’T need expensive cleaners like PBW and StarSan and Iodaphor to make good wine either. A certain degree of cleanliness is important, but soap and water – and maybe a little bleach for tougher jobs – is enough to keep a home brewery clean.
You don't need to buy those, you can just buy Oxiclean Free. (Oxiclean without perfumes, dyes, or chlorine) Oxiclean free can be bought for $7.60 at Walmart. This is what you clean your equipment with. No perfumes, dyes, or chlorine that will make you sick or alter the chemical make up (and taste) of your wine. Oxiclean cleans with oxygen which is one of the best cleaners. That's what most of those products clean with too. The difference is Oxiclean is extremely cheap, the others pretend they are for doing this stuff and require special pricing, but no. They are the same thing. Just more expensive.

I agree with him that if you're going to use this type of manner to make wine. Definitely do it in small batches. If you don't, your wine won't last long. You will have to drink it quick. Making 30 bottles in this fashion, you would need to drink at least a bottle of day hah and still hope you're hearty enough to deal with any ill effects.

You don't need all the equipment, but I highly suggest you do use the potassium sorbate (stabilizer), sodium metabisulfite, (sanitize and prevent oxidation), and Oxiclean (proper cleaning without tainting the wine with perfumes, dyes, and chlorine) I would suggest clairfiers too to help the floaties to clump and fall to the bottle so they don't get stuck in your teeth when you drink it hah. (and the wine looks more appetizing)

There are also small batch wine kits (equipment) that range from $50-$80. The big six gallon kits are around $130ish. You still need the recipe kits unless you're going to make it from scratch as that guy does. The pre-compiled recipe kits will make much better wine though.
 
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Here is the after fermentation day two stirring. It's looking good!

The big bag looking thing you see floating is a mesh bag that has the grapeskins in it. That is what adds darker colors, flavors, and of course tannins to the wine.

Of the fizzy bubbles is from the fermentation. (yeast eats sugar, and pisses alcohol and farts carbon dioxide. (CO2)) :laugh:

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