Does anyone realize World Bowl XV was Saturday?

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I lost all interest in the World League / NFL Europe or what ever it was when they changed the name to NFL Europa.

Maybe they can follow suit and change the World Bowl to the Europa Bowl. Kinda sounds like a fancy toilet bowl.
 

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jman;1537799 said:
I lost all interest in the World League / NFL Europe or what ever it was when they changed the name to NFL Europa.

Maybe they can follow suit and change the World Bowl to the Europa Bowl. Kinda sounds like a fancy toilet bowl.
I think I'll always be interested if we have a player there who is doing well. This year we didn't. The guys we sent were not so hot.
 

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Hostile;1537882 said:
I think I'll always be interested if we have a player there who is doing well. This year we didn't. The guys we sent were not so hot.

I do not believe we took it seriously.

Anyone here think Remi Ayodele, Tony Curtis or John Saldi had even a remote chance to make this team?

I would have preferred we sent others who have something to develop, like Matt Baker, Quincy Butler, Demarius Bilbo, Junior Glymph, Jamaica Rector, Jerhame Urban and Joey Thomas.

I understand there are some cases where we feel we can do more with them in an offseason program, but there is only so much that can accomplish as some just need to play and perhaps show more than they can in practices.

We used to do a better job with it. Now, NFL Europa appears to be where we send players to die.
 

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lolZ, the first 5 posts or so of that ES thread sounded ok. Like people just genuinely interested in how the player was doing. Sorta like how it was around here when Henson was in NFL:e. Then i suddenly turned and went into "OMG, he's so amazing." It's pretty funny the drastic change that took place in such a short time.
 

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adamknite;1537930 said:
lolZ, the first 5 posts or so of that ES thread sounded ok. Like people just genuinely interested in how the player was doing. Sorta like how it was around here when Henson was in NFL:e. Then i suddenly turned and went into "OMG, he's so amazing." It's pretty funny the drastic change that took place in such a short time.

It was probably one of the more vulgar displays of blatent and ignorant team favortism I have ever seen.

You are correct, it started out normal. You had posters who were probably watching him play for the first time this season. By the end, he was fetching a first round choice, kicking Todd Collins and Mark Brunell out of the way and threatening Jason Campbell's standing on the football team.

It was very typical of them however. Once a Commander, the talent becomes magnified a hundred fold.
 

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Alexander;1537932 said:
It was probably one of the more vulgar displays of blatent and ignorant team favortism I have ever seen.

You are correct, it started out normal. You had posters who were probably watching him play for the first time this season. By the end, he was fetching a first round choice, kicking Todd Collins and Mark Brunell out of the way and threatening Jason Campbell's standing on the football team.

It was very typical of them however. Once a Commander, the talent becomes magnified a hundred fold.

Commander fans are definetly strange bunch. I have no problem admitting that I'm a completely biased homer at times, but that's nothing compared to the year round blinding homerism these ES guys show.
 

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adamknite;1537946 said:
Commander fans are definetly strange bunch. I have no problem admitting that I'm a completely biased homer at times, but that's nothing compared to the year round blinding homerism these ES guys show.


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I still think the NFL would be much better off devoting its' time and resources to a minor league system based in the United States rather than wasting their time and money on World League/NFL Europe/NFL Europa.

This is one instance (and probably the only one) where the NFL could actually learn something from Major League Baseball.
 

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stasheroo;1537982 said:
I still think the NFL would be much better off devoting its' time and resources to a minor league system based in the United States rather than wasting their time and money on World League/NFL Europe/NFL Europa.

This is one instance (and probably the only one) where the NFL could actually learn something from Major League Baseball.

I doubt that happens. Why I do not know.

Goodell's pet cat is worldwide expansion. I would see him putting teams on foreign soil long before he would invest in anything domestically.
 

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stasheroo;1537982 said:
I still think the NFL would be much better off devoting its' time and resources to a minor league system based in the United States rather than wasting their time and money on World League/NFL Europe/NFL Europa.

This is one instance (and probably the only one) where the NFL could actually learn something from Major League Baseball.
Baseball has more worldwide appeal, and doesn't need leagues in Japan and Mexico to generate interest and farm talent. I think the NFL is trying to catch up to that in Europe.

The thing is, most of the people going to these things are the Americans stationed at military bases jonesing for football, which is why most are in Germany. I suspect it's a very small percentage of native europeans who are attending. The rest of the world just doesn;'t like our game, yet. In another 3 decades, we might seee some progress. It took baseball and basketball a while to globalize - but they're seeing the benefits now.
 

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Alexander;1537984 said:
I doubt that happens. Why I do not know.

Goodell's pet cat is worldwide expansion. I would see him putting teams on foreign soil long before he would invest in anything domestically.

I don't know if worldwide expansion is so much a "pet cat." Goodell is pursuing it, sure. But that reflects more that there isn't much else the NFL can do to be sucessful in the U.S. Efforts here don't have the potential bring in huge sums of previously untapped $. The owners want to make more money and aside from doubling ticket prices, etc. that isn't going to happen in the U.S.

That said I think worldwide expansion is a mistake. US Football is never going to be soccer. The game is complicated and people who don't grow up with it have a hell of a time following what is going on. Further, this is a league that gets its but kicked in Canada by some lame Canuck version of the product. How can anyone expect that other countries are going to buy US Football when we can't even make in roads in our neighbor to the north?
 

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Ever hear of soccer?

Allow me to answer your question with a question of my own.

What the hell are you talking about?

I don't understand what soccer has to do with baseball having more worldwide appeal than football.
 

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superpunk;1538015 said:
Allow me to answer your question with a question of my own.

What the hell are you talking about?

I don't understand what soccer has to do with baseball having more worldwide appeal than football.

My mistake -- I thought you were saying baseball has the MOST appeal. Saying a sport has more worldwide appeal that football seemed odd since all the majors do -- basketball and hockey also beat the NFL by a long stretch.
 

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Alexander;1537912 said:
I do not believe we took it seriously.

Anyone here think Remi Ayodele, Tony Curtis or John Saldi had even a remote chance to make this team?

I would have preferred we sent others who have something to develop, like Matt Baker, Quincy Butler, Demarius Bilbo, Junior Glymph, Jamaica Rector, Jerhame Urban and Joey Thomas.

I understand there are some cases where we feel we can do more with them in an offseason program, but there is only so much that can accomplish as some just need to play and perhaps show more than they can in practices.

We used to do a better job with it. Now, NFL Europa appears to be where we send players to die.
I gotta agree with you on this Alexander. I don't think we took it seriously and that bothers me. Teams that take it seriously will find soem diamonds in the rough, while we just use it as a means to comply with the league mandate.

I'd much rather actually try and see someone develop who could end up helping the team. The closest you can say we did to that was Tony Curtis and I simply never believed in him the way Charles the self exiled did.
 

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Did anyone watch? Did Dallas have anyone contribute? I hadn't heard a word about it. I guess with no Henson-gate saga for discussion, it was given the back burner here this summer.

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Apparently the skins QB, Casey Bramlet had a good year.

I did, I played the National Anthem and did the half time show, not by myself of course!:D

BTW, it was the loudest place I've ever been. I needed earplugs, as did most of the staff and a few players. The loudest place I've ever been before that was the Hemisfair Arena during the Spurs early years with Ice and company.

The game was unreal, German fans really understood the game well, I was told there were only about 5,000 american fans out of about 50,000 (sell out).
 

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Alexander;1537932 said:
It was very typical of them however. Once a Commander, the talent becomes magnified a hundred fold.

I hate how everyone here acts like every Commanders fan is like the guys at ES. They named themselves extreme for a reason it seems. I don't like it over there either because it's so totalitarian.

Personally, I am intrigued by Bramlet but I see NFL Europa (I feel gay just typing that name) as a bit like a less talented version of college, if they did well then it might translate into NFL success. Might...

Anyways, most of the Skins fans I know are rooting for him to take the 3rd string QB and maybe second when Brunell retires.

Do you want me to dig up the Drew Henson threads of last year to show you some of you were almost as fanatical about Drew Henson?
 

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firehawk350;1538139 said:
I hate how everyone here acts like every Commanders fan is like the guys at ES. They named themselves extreme for a reason it seems. I don't like it over there either because it's so totalitarian.

Personally, I am intrigued by Bramlet but I see NFL Europa (I feel gay just typing that name) as a bit like a less talented version of college, if they did well then it might translate into NFL success. Might...

Anyways, most of the Skins fans I know are rooting for him to take the 3rd string QB and maybe second when Brunell retires.

Do you want me to dig up the Drew Henson threads of last year to show you some of you were almost as fanatical about Drew Henson?
You mean how Skins fans assume that all Cowboys fans are ignorant hicks?

Please.

Take your sanctimony somewhere else.

Oh, and go ahead and dig up the Henson threads. He had as many detractors as he had supporters. All you will be doing is making our point.
 

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You mean how Skins fans assume that all Cowboys fans are ignorant hicks?

Please.

Take your sanctimony somewhere else.

Oh, and go ahead and dig up the Henson threads. He had as many detractors as he had supporters. All you will be doing is making our point.

Awww, your so misunderstood. I can't speak of other Skins fans, and surely you know that there are people who will stereotype other people because it's convenient, they're ignorant or they are insecure and like to belittle other people. Doing it because they do it is just as wrong.

If I was as close-minded about this as you, I would quote the more extreme ones and say that Cowboys' fans thought he was the savior and laugh about it back in my own forum.
 
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