Does anyone see Danny Snyder throwing in the towel?

[jobberone]

Very true Sarge. I think Gibbs will call it quits when he realizes that Snyder is more of a big business guy and would rather see the Skins tops in revenue rather than fielding a consistantly winning team.

Danny wants to sell jerseys rather than put wins in the "win column".

I'm sure you are right about him being greedy. But I also suspect the little guy wants it all. He just can't seem to buy a winner.

But I think the Skins should not be taken lightly. They had the number three D in the league last year by memory. At the least a very good D. I refuse to take Gibbs lightly until he really does fail. I think you have to give him at least 3 maybe 4 years.

 

[chicago JK]

He isn't going anywhere.


It is funny on the front page of ES messageboard there is a poll whether he is a good owner or not. By a large margin Skins fans think he is a good owner. Just imagine how favorable his fans would be if he ever put a winning team on the field?

BTW I have watched both Skins preseason games this year and you can see improvement. They will have a better record this year...not sure how much better. Although the homerism at ES is pretty comical. I am sure us Cowboy fans can be just as bad sometimes but ES can take it to a whole new level.

 

[JDSmith]

I really hope Snyder does give up the Skins. As much as I hate them I don't want them to become the new Cardinals - doormats of the NFCE. They are a franchise with a proud history, and far and away our greatest rival. Winning is a lot more fun when you beat a good Washington team in the process. Rooting against the Skins is only fun for me if it's not a foregone conclusion that they're going to lose almost every week. I want them to get their hopes up so that WE can crush them, I don't want them so lousy that they simply have no hope. It takes all the fun out of ripping their hearts out.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Very true Sarge. I think Gibbs will call it quits when he realizes that Snyder is more of a big business guy and would rather see the Skins tops in revenue rather than fielding a consistantly winning team.

Danny wants to sell jerseys rather than put wins in the "win column".

I don't know if I can buy into that. He spent a ton of money over the last few years chasing a Lombardi.

 

[ghst187]

Hey, the 'skins are going at the very least 10-6 this year.
According to extremeskins.com, that is.

Its funny how, when you get right down to it, that few Cowboys fans on this MB are completely unrealistic about their team. The overwhelming majority on extremeskins truly believe the 'skins are going to be a good team this year.
Its amazing and sad at the same time.

when has anyone in Washington been realistic?

 

[Chuck 54]

Snyder won't bail on the Skins but a guy name Gibbs will.

amen brother...gibbs will quit or be fired...he is miserable with that offense right now. he might get it together, but if ever a coach and unit looked like time had passed him by, it's the Commanders offense under Gibbs...and it's not for a lack of talent on that side of the ball either.

 

[Chuck 54]

He isn't going anywhere.


It is funny on the front page of ES messageboard there is a poll whether he is a good owner or not. By a large margin Skins fans think he is a good owner. Just imagine how favorable his fans would be if he ever put a winning team on the field?

BTW I have watched both Skins preseason games this year and you can see improvement. They will have a better record this year...not sure how much better. Although the homerism at ES is pretty comical. I am sure us Cowboy fans can be just as bad sometimes but ES can take it to a whole new level.

wow...I watched the same games here in VA, but I thought they were much worse. Their receivers are not nearly as good as last year, their QB is still struggling, and they are still an undisciplined team that makes really stupid mistakes...they are struggling to score.

If they didn't have williams coaching their defense, I don't think they'd have anything at all....from what I've seen, they will again be the basement team in the NFC EAST.

And I can't believe my ears with guys wishing the Skins would be decent and provide competition,not wanting them to be a joke??? Where were you guys back in the 70's when we had to put up with guys like Diron Talbert and Kilmer, George Allen and then the freakin' hogs in the 80's.

No siree...my hatred for the Commanders goes beyond anything else in the NFL...I would love to see them go 0-16 for the next decade and be laughed out of the league. There's not a team in the NFL, under any circumstances other than putting the Cowboys into the playoffs, against which I'd root for the Commanders.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

:dissskin: This is the best I can do to articulate my true feelings for the deadskins.......we own them anyhow!

 

[big dog cowboy]

amen brother...gibbs will quit or be fired.

WOW that would be somehting to see him fired. Commander nation would really be on suicide watch.
:laugh2: :laugh1: :laugh2:

 

[Marty R]

Pride will goeth before the fall when it comes to Snyder. He will have his ephiny, (sp?) sooner than our beloved Jerry Jones had his. He may have already had it in the (re)hiring of Gibbs as coach. Give Gibbs a few more years to clean up the mess that Synder has made and he will put a respecteble product on the field. Snyder had a good coach in Marty Schottenhiemer, but got all crazy when Spurrier left Florida. He wants it all and he wants it right now. But just maybe he realizes he ain't the football man he thought he was...

 

[calico]

The guy will never admit that he is nothing more than a football fan with filthy amounts of money to live his dream.

I actually want the skins to dig out of their pit a little because the victories over them will be sweeter. I want the games to mean more again.

Snyder came close to being run out of town in 03 but then he slapped a band aid on the severed leg by getting Gibbs to come back. At that point, alot of skins fans were passing on their season ticket options...but then he throws them a bone and the masses all come back hungrier than ever.

 

[Tuna Helper]

With such poor drafting by these guys, year after year. The loss of some core players in Pierce, Coles, and Champ Bailey a year ago. Lavar being hurt and disgruntled. Salary cap woes. Off the field problems with Sean Taylor. Joe Gibbs health problems. Bottomline, just bone head moves and problems galore.

Ya think Little Napolean will give up the Skins?

:suxskins:

Due to the fact that the Commanders own all or part of the stadium, they actually have the highest market value of any NFL team. There is no way that Napoleon gives up on the Commanders.

As long as the Commanders keep his pockets full, he is happy. It is a business after all, and the fans keep coming back for more of the same every year. Much like the other 30 teams fans that couldn't brag about a SB victory all offseason.

 

[lspain1]

Due to the fact that the Commanders own all or part of the stadium, they actually have the highest market value of any NFL team. There is no way that Napoleon gives up on the Commanders.

As long as the Commanders keep his pockets full, he is happy. It is a business after all, and the fans keep coming back for more of the same every year. Much like the other 30 teams fans that couldn't brag about a SB victory all offseason.

Actually, I think the Commanders' overall value as a franchise is beginning to slip under the weight of all the losing seasons. It has long been an axiom that the Skins' season ticket waiting list was decades long, tickets included in wills, etc. It is my understanding that situation has radically changed and Skins tickets are not nearly so hard to come by. That might partially be a product of the larger stadium and the presence of the Ravens, but Snyder definitely needs a winning season soon out of his team.

 

[SultanOfSix]

It is funny on the front page of ES messageboard there is a poll whether he is a good owner or not. By a large margin Skins fans think he is a good owner.

Yeah, but ES is owned by the Skins.

 

[chicago JK]

Actually, I think the Commanders' overall value as a franchise is beginning to slip under the weight of all the losing seasons. It has long been an axiom that the Skins' season ticket waiting list was decades long, tickets included in wills, etc. It is my understanding that situation has radically changed and Skins tickets are not nearly so hard to come by. That might partially be a product of the larger stadium and the presence of the Ravens, but Snyder definitely needs a winning season soon out of his team.

Snyder raking in the money as Commanders owner

Posted: Saturday Aug 20, 2005 5:18 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) - Dan Snyder's marketing savvy pushed the Washington Commanders' revenues last year to $300 million, nearly double the amount the team was grossing when he bought the franchise in 1999.

Snyder outlined some details of the Commanders' finances in a document he filed this week with the Securities and Exchange Commission in connection with his attempted takeover of Six Flags amusement parks.

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While the Commanders were already considered a profitable franchise, the documents reveal that the franchise belongs in the upper echelons of moneymaking in U.S. sports. The document puts the Commanders' annual revenues at $162 million in 1999, when Snyder bought the team and its stadium for $800 million.

Snyder made his original fortune through marketing, and he has applied his expertise fully with the Commanders. Sponsorship revenue, for example, has risen 1,200 percent - from $4 million to $48 million - in six years. Some 10,000 seats have been added to the stadium, which has a capacity of nearly 92,000 and is the largest in the NFL. More efficient concession services have led to greater customer spending, with the average fan spending $15 for food per game instead of the $9 when Snyder bought the team.

The documents do not reveal the Commanders' annual profit. Player salaries and mortgage on the stadium are just two major annual expenditures, but the team appears to be making considerably more than previous estimates of $50 million a year.

The financial wizardry hasn't helped Commanders reach Snyder's stated goal of winning the Super Bowl. The team hasn't had a winning season since 1999. He bought the team in May of that year and kept the existing coaching staff and players in place for that season.