Does bringing in Mario Williams mean 4-3?

[TheSport78]

If we hypothetically bring in Mario Williams, would you want Dallas to run a 4-3 or a 3-4?

Honestly, I'd love a 4-3 switch.

CB's: Jenkins, Scandrick, draft pick, free agent
MLB: Sean Lee
OLB's Bruce Carter and free agent/draft pick
DL: Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher, Super Mario

Then, we could bring in a veteran center like Scott Wells or Chris Myers, and then draft DeCastro at #14.

OL: Smith-DeCastro-Myers-Holland/Nagy/Arkin-Free

Re-signing Laurent Robinson is a must also. Thoughts?

 

[Typhus]

If they were to sign Mario Williams, they could go to more of a 4-3 look, but even though Ryans Defense is labeled a 3-4, they run several hybrid sets, that resemble a 4-3... my point is the personnel will dictate allignment, and just think about the flexability you have now with a guy that is either a DE, or an OLB in a pinch.
I would hate to be a OT in this league that had to square off with Mario at the LOS with a hand down, and Ware breathing down his shoulder.

As far as draft, Im warming to the thought of dropping back a few slots if we are able as long as you are pretty sure you can come away with Konz or Poe, either or, just make sure you get one of them at the very least, and if I were able to grab another 3rd or maybe even a 2nd, I would be thrilled.

The early rounds are littered with the big uglies, big OL like Brandon Washington, Osemele, Zeitler,, etc... on and on deep, a team in need of OL and DL repair can get a lot of help fast in this one.

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[TheSport78]

If they were to sign Mario Williams, they could go to more of a 4-3 look, but even though Ryans Defense is labeled a 3-4, they run several hybrid sets, that resemble a 4-3... my point is the personnel will dictate allignment, and just think about the flexability you have now with a guy that is either a DE, or an OLB in a pinch.
I would hate to be a OT in this league that had to square off with Mario at the LOS with a hand down, and Ware breathing down his shoulder.

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Super Mario and Ware would make Jenkins and Scandrick look like Deion in his prime.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

If we hypothetically bring in Mario Williams, would you want Dallas to run a 4-3 or a 3-4?

Honestly, I'd love a 4-3 switch.

CB's: Jenkins, Scandrick, draft pick, free agent
MLB: Sean Lee
OLB's Bruce Carter and free agent/draft pick
DL: Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher, Super Mario

Then, we could bring in a veteran center like Scott Wells or Chris Myers, and then draft DeCastro at #14.

OL: Smith-DeCastro-Myers-Holland/Nagy/Arkin-Free

Re-signing Laurent Robinson is a must also. Thoughts?

No. Williams would be a compliment to Ware on the edge as a LB in the 3-4. Dallas would need to upgrade the tackle position to convert to the 4-3.

By the way, this is what I'd like to see happen if Spencer leaves. Given the choice between Nicks and Williams, I'd rather have Williams. Guard could then be a priority in FA.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Guys, the chances in us signing Mario Williams is about 1 micron above absolutely none.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Guys, the chances in us signing Mario Williams is about 1 micron above absolutely none.

yeah, probably less....Dallas isn't signing Williams

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Guys, the chances in us signing Mario Williams is about 1 micron above absolutely none.

Maybe. But a chance is a chance.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Maybe. But a chance is a chance.

 

[Typhus]

No. Williams would be a compliment to Ware on the edge as a LB in the 3-4. Dallas would need to upgrade the tackle position to convert to the 4-3.

By the way, this is what I'd like to see happen if Spencer leaves. Given the choice between Nicks and Williams, I'd rather have Williams. Guard could then be a priority in FA.

Upgrade the DT's ? With Mario your defense just added a freak that counts as both a top DE and OLB either or..... its the flexability that makes it so valuable and coveted.

Lots of young tackles already on this team that would easily transition into a 4-3 front with Lissemore and Josh Brent,,,, Hatch? Spears? Rat?

Not saying this team still isnt in need of that dominating NT, regardless if Mario is brought in or not.

 

[Typhus]

Guys, the chances in us signing Mario Williams is about 1 micron above absolutely none.

I would give the Cowboys a fair a shot as any other team, why wouldnt/couldnt you?

Do you think that type of bold FA play is out of character for Jerry Jones?

 

[Doomsday101]

If we hypothetically bring in Mario Williams, would you want Dallas to run a 4-3 or a 3-4?

Honestly, I'd love a 4-3 switch.

CB's: Jenkins, Scandrick, draft pick, free agent
MLB: Sean Lee
OLB's Bruce Carter and free agent/draft pick
DL: Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher, Super Mario

Then, we could bring in a veteran center like Scott Wells or Chris Myers, and then draft DeCastro at #14.

OL: Smith-DeCastro-Myers-Holland/Nagy/Arkin-Free

Re-signing Laurent Robinson is a must also. Thoughts?

Wade felt he could play the 3-4 and Williams did have 5 sacks in the only 5 games he played. Getting injured had nothing to do with a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense and the plain truth Williams was doing a very good job before he went down.

Having said that I don't think Williams ends up in Dallas

 

[Oh_Canada]

Super Mario and Ware would make Jenkins and Scandrick look like Deion in his prime.

Bingo. Those two would be in Eli's nightmares every single time that goofy head hits the pillow.

Mario Williams played in the 3-4 last year...five sacks in five games.

Too bad it won't happen.

 

[joseephuss]

Wade felt he could play the 3-4 and Williams did have 5 sacks in the only 5 games he played. Getting injured had nothing to do with a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense and the plain truth Williams was doing a very good job before he went down.

Having said that I don't think Williams ends up in Dallas

He really wasn't doing a good job before he went down. He was struggling out in space. He was also not doing that well against the run. His sacks came in obvious passing situations when the team was in nickle defense and not a true 3-4 alignment. He also benefited on a couple of those sacks by being blocked or really not blocked by a tight end. I even think one of his sacks came when no one blocked him. Those kinds of things happen.

I watched him when they were in a true 3-4 defense and he was not doing well. This was expected because he was learning a new position and was not able to go through mini-camps. It is quite a bit to learn in such a short time such as training camp and pre-season. As a pass rusher he can still do well, but questions remain on his transition to an OLB.

 

[Doomsday101]

He really wasn't doing a good job before he went down. He was struggling out in space. He was also not doing that well against the run. His sacks came in obvious passing situations when the team was in nickle defense and not a true 3-4 alignment. He also benefited on a couple of those sacks by being blocked or really not blocked by a tight end. I even think one of his sacks came when no one blocked him. Those kinds of things happen.

I watched him when they were in a true 3-4 defense and he was not doing well. This was expected because he was learning a new position and was not able to go through mini-camps. It is quite a bit to learn in such a short time such as training camp and pre-season. As a pass rusher he can still do well, but questions remain on his transition to an OLB.

I don't think he was playing bad and I agree there is still much to learn however I think Williams can play the 3-4 or the 4-3.

 

[Kangaroo]

He really wasn't doing a good job before he went down. He was struggling out in space. He was also not doing that well against the run. His sacks came in obvious passing situations when the team was in nickle defense and not a true 3-4 alignment. He also benefited on a couple of those sacks by being blocked or really not blocked by a tight end. I even think one of his sacks came when no one blocked him. Those kinds of things happen.

I watched him when they were in a true 3-4 defense and he was not doing well. This was expected because he was learning a new position and was not able to go through mini-camps. It is quite a bit to learn in such a short time such as training camp and pre-season. As a pass rusher he can still do well, but questions remain on his transition to an OLB.

He is just not worth his price tag unless we move back to a 4-3. I agree with what you said and actually think Mario is a good player I just do not see him as a great player. He has missed 14 games the last two years and he had another year where he played injured and his play was down of course because it was a shoulder. I have concerns on the injury side as well

 

[YosemiteSam]

I would give the Cowboys a fair a shot as any other team, why wouldnt/couldnt you?

Do you think that type of bold FA play is out of character for Jerry Jones?

Pass rushers are the second most expensive free agents on the market. We need help in a lot of areas. Buying an expensive free agent causes problems elsewhere.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Pass rushers are the second most expensive free agents on the market. We need help in a lot of areas. Buying an expensive free agent causes problems elsewhere.

Buying a proven pass rusher would cure a lot of ills on this defense. This one player can make the entire defense better allowing the Cowboys to go into the draft with more options.

 

[noshame]

I'm all for Mario and the 4-3, Rat would look like Leroy Glover in his prime.

 

[Risen Star]

Mommy, make these 4-3 threads stop.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Mommy, make these 4-3 threads stop.

:laugh2:

Amen to that!