Does Dak hold the ball too long?

[Blackrain]

Save yourselves the agony of reading through all this and just watch Kurt Warner's breakdown of the game film from our game against the 49ers and decide for yourself what Dak is doing it's more than just holding the ball too long.

This guy knows the quarterback position intimately and describes accurately what is going on better than anyone I've seen.

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

This is what happens when you have a QB that stares down one route at a time for +3 seconds
His peripheral vision or lack of field accuracy severely inhibits his ability to read the whole defense and anticipate the whole set of routes of the play. Elite QB's like Brady, Mahomes don't stare down one receiver and hope he becomes open. They use their elite vision and defensive reading to scan the field and anticipate the whole set of routes as "one route".

The Josh Allen highest TTT is misleading because he is a mobile QB and is elite at escaping the pocket for a throw.

This is completely incorrect. Dak isn't a one look qb, he goes through his reads sufficiently fast. But the scheme doesn't work when the qb is pressured quickly with 4 or 5 rushers. Kellen Moore and Co. didn't figure out a response to it since the denver game

 

[Aftershock]

This is completely incorrect. Dak isn't a one look qb, he goes through his reads sufficiently fast. But the scheme doesn't work when the qb is pressured quickly with 4 or 5 rushers. Kellen Moore and Co. didn't figure out a response to it since the denver game

Did you watch the WC game? I couldn’t even count on my fingers how many times dak had a wide open drag/under route wide open and he would never see it. Go watch Kurt Warner’s analysis on YouTube

 

[Brooksey]

This is completely incorrect. Dak isn't a one look qb, he goes through his reads sufficiently fast. But the scheme doesn't work when the qb is pressured quickly with 4 or 5 rushers. Kellen Moore and Co. didn't figure out a response to it since the denver game

That's not it, there's just way to many examples of poor throws when he does have the time. He really struggles when he has to go beyond two reads

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

Did you watch the WC game? I couldn’t even count on my fingers how many times dak had a wide open drag/under route wide open and he would never see it. Go watch Kurt Warner’s analysis on YouTube

If only Dak had a view from his TV screen from the comfort of a couch or the broadcast booth. Sometimes there's more to a qbs decisions than what he can see right infront of him. Pressure from previous calls, the defensive look, a lineman losing containment, etc

 

[stiletto]

Moore needed to go to dink and dunk. Let the LBs come and dump it right over to receiver. Or roll outs and dump offs. Keep doing it and they change what the defense does. He learned to beat the blitz. Moore is not reading what’s happening. We are down by 3 intermediate routes if we are down by 7 everyone go deep.. Don’t run except up the gut. No off tackle or toss plays. No misdirection. Nothing to change the way the defense game plan. Trying to beat there defensive game plan instead of reading it and hitting there weaknesses. Roll out and throw to one on one. There weakness was apparently PI and holding on there secondary.

Yep. Also our 5 Olinemen were consistently getting beat with 4 man fronts. Could barely hold the pass and couldn't open up running lanes 5 vs 4. That's a recipe for disaster. Until that is fixed the team doesn't have a chance!

 

[Demboyz88]

He clearly holds the ball too long. The great quarterbacks like aaron rodgers have the ball there before the receiver even turns around. Dak just doesnt have that.

 

[Aftershock]

If only Dak had a view from his TV screen from the comfort of a couch or the broadcast booth. Sometimes there's more to a qbs decisions than what he can see right infront of him. Pressure from previous calls, the defensive look, a lineman losing containment, etc

That should all be solved in the film room

But it should be in question what exactly KM and DP do in that meeting room...

 

[Redsfan_83]

Everything we see now is why he was drafted in the 4th round, and we put all our eggs into his basket

 

[fansince68]

He was top 10 shortest TTT during the season.

It is obvious he was holding the ball this game due to coverage.

Yeah but, he missed sooooo many single coverage pre snap reads. He doesn't seem to know where the ball needs to go.

 

[G2]

He holds it too long, but he's gentle.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Funny we could see this during the game but they can’t. It’s like JG, won’t adjust and get away from game plan even if it’s wrong or not working..

Its creepy odd how similar these two guys were after they got found out.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dak is not that good when he plays Josh Alllen or Russel Wilson ball, holding it and trying to make broken plays etc.
He plays his best when he gets it out quickly and he's in a rhythm. Our Wr's did not change, the play calling may have.
Between Dak and Moore something went wrong.

Why would he hold it if people are open?

yah, the Oline changed. And the defense people played against us changed.

 

[cowboyec]

yes.
his mental clock needs new batteries.
3 seconds...ball's out.

 

[Xeven]

Garret ruined Dak and Moore. Until they are gone and Jerry hires a GM we will never do better than this year.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Dak's Time to Throw last weekend was 2.95 seconds.

Lowest time to throw was Brady at 2.17 seconds. Highest was Josh Allen at 3.17

Time to Throw
Of the Next Gen Passing Stats, Time to Throw (TT) is the most predictable from one year to the next. The stat itself is self-explanatory—Time to Throw measures the average amount of time elapsed from the time of snap to throw on every pass attempt for a passer (sacks excluded).
Unsurprisingly, the passers with the highest average TT are mobile passers but also quarterbacks who take a lot of sacks.

I'm a numbers guy, but know their limits. The pocket passers got to get rid of it sooner as they aren't buying time with their feet.

Sometimes, you gotta go by judgment. We've seen Dak "let er rip", and we've seen Dak be undecisive and get happy feet. This Sunday was happy feet and double clutch day.

And it wasn't all WRs failing to get open. He didn't see a lot of guys who were open. Didn't correctly *anticipate* who would be open. Just a bad game for Dak. He's not the only one, but he was one.

 

[slick325]

Not sure about whether he holds it too long or not. Some plays have longer developing routed. But, I do think Prescott has below average to poor pocket awareness.

 

[texbumthelife]

It’s not just how long he holds it, it’s that he holds it like he’s a statue. Mahomes and Allen hold the ball forever, but they move. They get outside the pocket. They make plays on the run.

 

[RonWashington]

My eye test says he holds it too long. Obviously, not every play but enough.

Watch Brady watch Rodgers get rid of the ball before a defensive linemen is within 2 feet . This whole offense needs a complete overhaul . You feast on glazed donuts in the NFL East but when a Spagnolo in KC or Fangio game prep for Dallas your locked out of the end zone . 17 points at home in the playoffs is not what the Cowboys are paying the talent on the O to produce.

 

[fansince68]

Moore needed to go to dink and dunk. Let the LBs come and dump it right over to receiver. Or roll outs and dump offs. Keep doing it and they change what the defense does. He learned to beat the blitz. Moore is not reading what’s happening. We are down by 3 intermediate routes if we are down by 7 everyone go deep.. Don’t run except up the gut. No off tackle or toss plays. No misdirection. Nothing to change the way the defense game plan. Trying to beat there defensive game plan instead of reading it and hitting there weaknesses. Roll out and throw to one on one. There weakness was apparently PI and holding on there secondary.

Kellen Moore has been exposed for being a poor play called. But the biggest problem i wonder about is whether he studies film on his qb. Daks flaws have been evident for a long time. Remember back in 2017 and 2018 Dak was accused of only being able to throw button hooks and curls and nothing downfield? Dak needs a decent qb coach. The New OC needs to focus on making the running game more productive as well as designing plays that are best for the talent he has to work with pay big money to lure Bill Callahan O line coach away from the Browns.