Does it even matter if Parcells wanted TO?

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Why does it even matter if Parcells wanted TO? Regardless of whether he wanted him or not, it would not make a difference. If TO turns over a new leaf and never creates any problems then great. If he is the same old TO and is problematic then big deal we get rid of him and BP tells Jerry I told you so....at WORST it could cause a rift betweent BP and JJ but we all know this is Parcells' last year anyways, 1 more year after this at MOST. So what does it matter if Parcells wanted TO or not? TO is a part of this team now and the only way this whole TO thing is going to pan out for ALL of us (cowboy fans) is if TO performs on the field and has no off field issues and in that situation BP will have no problem with him. Worst case scenario TO is his old self and the LAST thing that will be on our minds is that BP didn't want him in the 1st place.
 

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Only to the extent that Jerry is making decisions again in matters he has shown repeatedly that he doesn't know anything about, he just thinks he does. Horrors! Do you suppose his evil twin, Jethro has taken over again?
 

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Of course it matters if this report is true. It can matter in three diff ways:

1)Now if everything goes well, and TO doesnt cause some kind of problem, then that will not cause an open conflict. But this still means JJ went out agaisnt Parcell's desires. That means JJ lied at the TO press conference, and this means the decision making is on JJ's sides, not equally distributed, as JJ claims. This could cause a potential rift between your owner and coach, and it could be something that would keep potentials coachs for the future away from Dallas.

2)If Parcells gets upset midseason, or it seems like he has(ex. the cameras zoom in on Parcells yelling at TO on the sideline, even though it might not be a big deal), the media will jump on that, and make it a HUGE issue, bc Parcells may have not wanted TO on the team.

3)And of course if a real conflict occurs with TO, it will just destroy your team. It will ruin the credibility of JJ and the organization for trying TO. You guys will be the laughing stock of the NFL for trying TO for the third time.

If the report is really false, then thats better for you guys, bc if TO performs well, then everything will be fine. But if this report is true, that is NOT a good thing, and I would personally think reason 1 is the worst.
 

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Parcells wanted T.O. ...... or he wouldnt be here ........... period.
 

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glorydaysrback said:
we all know this is Parcells' last year anyways, 1 more year after this at MOST.

And you don't like people speculating about TO? Don't think in terms of "rationality" where BP is concerned because quitting his last job of his life will be anything but rational. This isn't like last time...there is absolutely nothing else besides maybe working in a booth after this--quit this time and it's forever. Coupled with the fact he seems happier here then any other place I've ever seen him at, not to mention his health seems to be really good. My guess is he squeezes out as many years as he possibly can from this point on, even if he isn't entirely happy his last couple of years here.

My advice, watch the man and see what he does, don't listen to what the papers want you to hear. Heck most of them have been against Bill being in Dallas since the beginning, most forcasting doom since day 1. Same people forcasting TO's 3rd demise with us. Same people going on about how power hungry Jerry is.
 

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hooskins said:
Of course it matters if this report is true. It can matter in three diff ways:

1)Now if everything goes well, and TO doesnt cause some kind of problem, then that will not cause an open conflict. But this still means JJ went out agaisnt Parcell's desires. That means JJ lied at the TO press conference, and this means the decision making is on JJ's sides, not equally distributed, as JJ claims. This could cause a potential rift between your owner and coach, and it could be something that would keep potentials coachs for the future away from Dallas.

2)If Parcells gets upset midseason, or it seems like he has(ex. the cameras zoom in on Parcells yelling at TO on the sideline, even though it might not be a big deal), the media will jump on that, and make it a HUGE issue, bc Parcells may have not wanted TO on the team.

3)And of course if a real conflict occurs with TO, it will just destroy your team. It will ruin the credibility of JJ and the organization for trying TO. You guys will be the laughing stock of the NFL for trying TO for the third time.

If the report is really false, then thats better for you guys, bc if TO performs well, then everything will be fine. But if this report is true, that is NOT a good thing, and I would personally think reason 1 is the worst.

This report isn't true, Parcells hates the media, there is no way he would tell them something like this that would merely rile up TO haters, and people who just wanna call TO a cancer.
 

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J.Jones21 said:
This report isn't true, Parcells hates the media, there is no way he would tell them something like this that would merely rile up TO haters, and people who just wanna call TO a cancer.

I agree ...... if Parcells didnt want T.O. he would not be a Cowboy ......
 

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the guys who buy into the idea Tuna didn't want TO, yet he signed here anyways would probably purchase bottled water while they're drowning.
 

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zrinkill said:
Parcells wanted T.O. ...... or he wouldnt be here ........... period.
I love it when a man of few words speaks the truth !
 

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3)And of course if a real conflict occurs with TO, it will just destroy your team.

I wouldn't say destroy. To me, that means it would have a resounding negative affect on the team for years to come.

Getting TO didn't come at the cost of draft picks. Parcells is only planning to be around for 2 more years, so it's not like with the Jimmy situation where you had a relatively young coach who had plenty more years left in him, but got ticked off because we signed TO and quit.

Where TO could hurt Dallas is if he acts up badly during the season, especially if the team is looking like a Super Bowl contender. They still have the easy out of cutting Owens come the offseason, but it would likely ruin THAT season.

For all of the talk that "Owens destroyed Philly", the Eagles organization still is to blame for their problems. They have a coach that hates running the ball (although I believe he'll almost force himself to run the ball next season) and while they've been good at developing players, they've been miserable at developing WR's.

So when Owens caused problems, it took away their best receiving threat on an extremely pass oriented team. If the Eagles had been able to develop a good WR that they have drafted over the years, thing wouldn't look half as bad.

It will ruin the credibility of JJ and the organization for trying TO. You guys will be the laughing stock of the NFL for trying TO for the third time.

I'm still not sure what that would have to do with wins/losses on the field. It wouldn't prevent Dallas from signing future FA's and for all of the talk, if Jones offers the right money, a good head coach will accept the job.

Rich.........
 

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notherbob said:
Only to the extent that Jerry is making decisions again in matters he has shown repeatedly that he doesn't know anything about, he just thinks he does. Horrors! Do you suppose his evil twin, Jethro has taken over again?

These reports are mainly coming from outside news sources and rumor mongering goofs like Mike Florio.

The local media who almost always has an axe to grind with the Cowboys has said they haven't heard anything. Furthermore, it was reported by several Dallas beat writers that Jones didn't want to pay Vanderjagt the money he was asking for, but Bill did.

Vanderjagt is now on the team.

I wasn't for the TO signing and I'd prefer to not have him on the team. But once I heard that Parcells and Rosenhaus had a lunch meeting, I was resigned to the fact that Owens was going to become a Dallas Cowboy. To think about it for a second, before Owens signed there was not one single Cowboy that had Rosenhaus as an agent. Furthermore, there were no other FA's that Dallas was looking at that had Rosenhaus as an agent.

Despite that, they still had a meeting out of the blue. Now I'm supposed to believe that Rosenhaus and Parcells were just talking about Drew's hair gel and the roast beef on rye special instead of Owens?

If you believe that, then I have a nice bridge in Brooklyn for sale.


Rich.........
 

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hooskins said:
Of course it matters if this report is true. It can matter in three diff ways

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no, not really, because I doubt Parcells was totally against the signing, Parcells wants to win now too

and Parcells has an ego, he's handled troubled players very well in the past, and I belive he thinks he can do it again, JMO though
 

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and when you mean a real conflict, that stuff happens on pro teams everday, it becomes a team destroying thing when they aren't reconciled
 

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zrinkill said:
Parcells wanted T.O. ...... or he wouldnt be here ........... period.
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Don't care in the least if Parcells wanted him or not...He's here now so Coach him and lets start winning.
 
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