Does it seem like everything this organization does backfires on them?

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I mean even back to Randy Moss. We pass him up because he is going to be a problem off the field. He never gets suspended and ends up in the HOF and would have been the weapon we desperately needed at that time.

We pass up the Honey Badger and he stays out of trouble and becomes a pro bowl DB.

We trade up to get a "generational talent" in Morris Claiborne only to see him fail here and excel in NY.

We don't draft Tyreek Hill because of off-field issues and he has been great and has never had any issues since.

We take a chance on Randy Gregory and he lets us down right from the start.

We take an RB at 4 and he gets suspended 6 games and is one incident away from league banishment.

We don't put Tony Romo back into the lineup when he is healthy in 2016 because we think we just lucked into our next franchise QB only to see him regress every season to the point that he may be nothing more than a career backup.

I could name many more like this but I think you get my point. It just seems like everything we do as an organization backfires and sets us back as a team.
 
I don't think it's uncommon for any team's fan base other than maybe the Patriots or whatever team just won the past year's SB to think that way, and to have their own laundry list of examples.

But/and I think that's glass-half-empty thinking... valid to some degree but also skewed to some degree.

And unless/until we reach the promised land, I think that's just how things will continue to be for us.
 
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I think that it all boils down to Dallas being a passively playing team. Way too cerebral in design. One doesn't outsmart a team on the field, he attacks and dominates phases of it's opponents. Predictable is easier to attack.
 
Well it was odd to see us spend so much money/resources to get two man coverage corners and then fire Rob and get new D coordinators who preferred zone coverages.
While Kiffin and Rod did play man here and there, could we of seen better development from Mo had we had a man coverage first DC/better assistant coaches? Just throwing that out there.

T. Hill came out after the Rice debacle. What he did to his GF was disgusting.
Fortunately for him he plays for a smaller, but passionate fanbase/team. Had we drafted him, nonstop coverage of his off the field issues.
 
Not everything goes bad for us, just seems that way sometimes. Every team makes mistakes; the problem is that many of those teams overcome those mistakes to a more effective degree than us.
 
I mean even back to Randy Moss. We pass him up because he is going to be a problem off the field. He never gets suspended and ends up in the HOF and would have been the weapon we desperately needed at that time.

We pass up the Honey Badger and he stays out of trouble and becomes a pro bowl DB.

We trade up to get a "generational talent" in Morris Claiborne only to see him fail here and excel in NY.

We don't draft Tyreek Hill because of off-field issues and he has been great and has never had any issues since.

We take a chance on Randy Gregory and he lets us down right from the start.

We take an RB at 4 and he gets suspended 6 games and is one incident away from league banishment.

We don't put Tony Romo back into the lineup when he is healthy in 2016 because we think we just lucked into our next franchise QB only to see him regress every season to the point that he may be nothing more than a career backup.

I could name many more like this but I think you get my point. It just seems like everything we do as an organization backfires and sets us back as a team.

Yes it seems we are jinxed.
Look at the injuries for us as well as the suspensions the often derail us.
Look at other teams, they miss quite a few of their players, especially their OL's. But they either miraculously heal or the back ups look like all pros against us.
We never seem to take advantage of those situations, but we get exploited with our back ups.

A friend of mine calls it the Jimmy Curse.
 
I mean even back to Randy Moss. We pass him up because he is going to be a problem off the field. He never gets suspended and ends up in the HOF and would have been the weapon we desperately needed at that time.

We pass up the Honey Badger and he stays out of trouble and becomes a pro bowl DB.

We trade up to get a "generational talent" in Morris Claiborne only to see him fail here and excel in NY.

We don't draft Tyreek Hill because of off-field issues and he has been great and has never had any issues since.

We take a chance on Randy Gregory and he lets us down right from the start.

We take an RB at 4 and he gets suspended 6 games and is one incident away from league banishment.

We don't put Tony Romo back into the lineup when he is healthy in 2016 because we think we just lucked into our next franchise QB only to see him regress every season to the point that he may be nothing more than a career backup.

I could name many more like this but I think you get my point. It just seems like everything we do as an organization backfires and sets us back as a team.
Most of it comes down to not having a football saavy man in charge.
 
I mean even back to Randy Moss. We pass him up because he is going to be a problem off the field. He never gets suspended and ends up in the HOF and would have been the weapon we desperately needed at that time.

We pass up the Honey Badger and he stays out of trouble and becomes a pro bowl DB.

We trade up to get a "generational talent" in Morris Claiborne only to see him fail here and excel in NY.

We don't draft Tyreek Hill because of off-field issues and he has been great and has never had any issues since.

We take a chance on Randy Gregory and he lets us down right from the start.

We take an RB at 4 and he gets suspended 6 games and is one incident away from league banishment.

We don't put Tony Romo back into the lineup when he is healthy in 2016 because we think we just lucked into our next franchise QB only to see him regress every season to the point that he may be nothing more than a career backup.

I could name many more like this but I think you get my point. It just seems like everything we do as an organization backfires and sets us back as a team.

Some of these are reasonable points, but some aren't completely accurate or fair.

For example, Morris Claiborne has not excelled in NY. He happened to have a healthy season last year, and did fine, but he isn't playing any better than he did when he left Dallas.

As for Tyreek Hill, every team passed on him until the 165th pick in the draft.

As for "Honey Badger", he was only Pro Bowl once out of 6 years, and even so, every other NFL team passed on him until the 3rd round too.

As for Dak regressing "every year" after 2016, he has only had 1 year and 1 game since then. It may be that what you say ends up being true, but for now we can only say he regressed in 2017.
 
Jerry sold his soul in the 90's and we are going to pay for it for the rest of our lives.

So is this the price he paid, we as fans have to suffer, not him?

And we all thought Stephen as he takes more control of the team, or has he?. But if he has, is he in on the deal too, because he seems to becoming Jerry now by not spending to get the players here, as opposed to overspending on the wrong players.

I mean, I like that they do not over spend, but they need to do so at times. It is like if you are a FA, don't expect to sign here for more than $3 million a year.
 
Oh, and Mo is the #2 Cb. Trumaine Johnson is the #1. And the Jets have a pass rush.
 
I don't think it's uncommon for any team's fan base other than maybe the Patriots or whatever team just won the past year's SB to think that way, and to have their own laundry list of examples.

But/and I think that's glass-half-empty thinking... valid to some degree but also skewed to some degree.

And unless/until we reach the promised land, I think that's just how things will continue to be for us.
back further tes Jimmy even made the mistake of letting Jimmy Smith go on the expansion roster.. we were yelling no no no including willy Jackson I believe and not soon after Irvin retires with the neck thing think about the bad trades trying to get WR in here when Jimmy smith had a great career..its started back then
 
If it isn't broke, you don't fix it! We have had some very good teams show up over the years, specifically I recall 2014 and 2016. The refs have been controlling the games, which needs to stop! Let them play football!
 
So is this the price he paid, we as fans have to suffer, not him?

And we all thought Stephen as he takes more control of the team, or has he?. But if he has, is he in on the deal too, because he seems to becoming Jerry now by not spending to get the players here, as opposed to overspending on the wrong players.

I mean, I like that they do not over spend, but they need to do so at times. It is like if you are a FA, don't expect to sign here for more than $3 million a year.
There is a time to pay. However, we have non-football saavy people in charge, so they're completely clueless as to figuring out which players to pay. Brandon Carr, for instance, was a #2 type Cb. And it was extremely easy to see it w/ a simple examination of his skillset.
 
So is this the price he paid, we as fans have to suffer, not him?

And we all thought Stephen as he takes more control of the team, or has he?. But if he has, is he in on the deal too, because he seems to becoming Jerry now by not spending to get the players here, as opposed to overspending on the wrong players.

I mean, I like that they do not over spend, but they need to do so at times. It is like if you are a FA, don't expect to sign here for more than $3 million a year.
Stephen's arm chair QB comment about Troy Aikman's comment told me that he's not too far from his old man. Aikman isn't always right but now Stephen is coming off as delusional. We're in this quasi purgatory for our lifetimes.
 
I think that it all boils down to Dallas being a passively playing team. Way too cerebral in design. One doesn't outsmart a team on the field, he attacks and dominates phases of it's opponents. Predictable is easier to attack.

This is what that looks like:

Here are Dak’s passing yards in the last 10 games:

• 249
• 176
• 145
• 179
• 102
• 332
• 212
• 181
• 179
• 170

Let’s do some math. He failed to reach the 200-yard mark seven times. He earned 200 yards or more only three times in the last 10 contests. His only 300-yard ball game came on December 10th, 2017, which was a win over the New York Giants, 30-10.

https://thelandryhat.com/2018/09/11/dallas-cowboys-five-things-panthers-giants/
 
I mean even back to Randy Moss. We pass him up because he is going to be a problem off the field. He never gets suspended and ends up in the HOF and would have been the weapon we desperately needed at that time.

We pass up the Honey Badger and he stays out of trouble and becomes a pro bowl DB.

We trade up to get a "generational talent" in Morris Claiborne only to see him fail here and excel in NY.

We don't draft Tyreek Hill because of off-field issues and he has been great and has never had any issues since.

We take a chance on Randy Gregory and he lets us down right from the start.

We take an RB at 4 and he gets suspended 6 games and is one incident away from league banishment.

We don't put Tony Romo back into the lineup when he is healthy in 2016 because we think we just lucked into our next franchise QB only to see him regress every season to the point that he may be nothing more than a career backup.

I could name many more like this but I think you get my point. It just seems like everything we do as an organization backfires and sets us back as a team.

I know
The gods are against us :facepalm:

Send Jerry a letter so he can close up shop
 

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