Does JJ have confidence in Ciskowski to churn the roster on draft day?

[igtmfo]

It's easy to predict a big draft day trade-up strategy for da Boys. Even more so with all our day-two picks ...

Of course the Q is: does Jerruh want to churn some, not trade up, and improve the overall roster and maybe find a longshot to boot ... ...

The churn may happen because Jerry has confidence in Ciskowski after Ciskowski's first excellent first solo run last year, featuring day-two picks Choice and Scandrick (only Erik Walden was a whiff on day two ...)

But ... Jerry can't stand being out of the action. Look at 2008 draft and don't you think he'll do a lot on draft day this year regardless. I predict though he'll go the other way this year, to get perceived quality over sheer number of picks ...

Draft day trades 2007:
- Trading our one pick to Cle (eventually B. Quinn) ...
- Trading our 2, 3, and 5 pick to Philly for Philly's one pick (we got A. Spencer)
- Trading something to move up in 7th round for Courtney Brown ...

Draft day trades 2008 eventful - wow:
- Move up for Felix: from 28 up to 25, (Seattle trade), we give up 5 and 7 picks.
- Move down: Our 3 pick for Lions' 4 pick and the Lions' 2009 4 pick.
- Move down: Our 4 pick for Raiders' 4 pick (moved down four spots in the fourth round) plus we got Raiders' 7 pick.
- Move down: Another of our 4 picks to Cle for their 4 pick (18 picks down) plus their 5 pick.
- Move "down" (for next year that is): Yet another of our 4 picks to Cle for their 3 pick in 2009
- Move up: for Scandrick (yes!), Jacksonville's 5 pick for our five and our seventh

Hypothetical: If you were GM, would you do a "credit card" draft every year? That is, give up your 1 next year (and change) for a 2 this year. Then next round, give up your 2 next year (and change) for a 3 this year ... etc. .. it seems like you would a year ahead of the pack ... on the other hand, this sounds like something Snyder would do ..

Just musing over a few beers, sorry, but it's my personal world record 10
days without alcohol until tonite ... prolly drank too much, so sorry if I missed any facts above ..

 

[rathalarge]

Ciskowski will have nothing to do with churning the roster. Jerry has already let it be known that ALL final decisions on coaches, personnel, and roster moves end with him. I have confidence in Ciskowski and feel good about not only his drafting, but his ability to bring in free agents, as they've done thus far! Jerry showed me something this week, and most will admit, they feel good about discontents being released. Sorry T.O. apologists, dude was good, but his act was about to start early this year beginning in the offseason, just like in Pliladelphia! That said, I have nothing against T.O., but I feel it was a good move, and a starting point for Jerry to listen and trust his football people... IMO!!

 

[miamicowboy21]

I think people underestimate the fact that Jerry actually listens to his football people. He may have final say, but he consults them. It may seem like an one man operation on the surface, but many behind the scenes have Jerry's ear. The release of owens should've been an good indication of that. Jerry didn't just wake up thursday morning and say im going to cut owens, many were consulted that brought jerry to that conclusion. I expect our draft to be very good even without a first rounder.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Ciskowski will have nothing to do with churning the roster.

:fact:

 

[dbair1967]

Jerry said right after the season ended he could see a 25-30% roster turnover...thats about 15 spots give or take a guy or two.

Already gone are Canty, Owens, B Johnson, R Williams, T Johnson, Henry, Berger, Pac Trash & Zach Thomas...thats 9 spots already...undoubtedly there will be 2-3 new OL's on the roster...probably 2-3 new DB's on the way too...

Not hard to see 14-15 new guys here at all

 

[Vinnie2u]

Jerry said right after the season ended he could see a 25-30% roster turnover...thats about 15 spots give or take a guy or two.

Already gone are Canty, Owens, B Johnson, R Williams, T Johnson, Henry, Berger, Pac Trash & Zach Thomas...thats 9 spots already...undoubtedly there will be 2-3 new OL's on the roster...probably 2-3 new DB's on the way too...

Not hard to see 14-15 new guys here at all

Also add Curtis, Burnett and K.Davis

 

[dbair1967]

Also add Curtis, Burnett and K.Davis

I think Davis might be back...also think they havent closed the door on Burnett yet

Curtis is definitely a goner

 

[Chocolate Lab]

If Jerry trades around as well this year as he did last year, we're going to be in good shape for years. Getting Cleveland and Detroit's high third and fourth rounders was nothing short of masterful.

And yes, I assume he trusts Ciskowski. Why wouldn't he? Last year's draft was outstanding.

 

[Hostile]

I think people underestimate the fact that Jerry actually listens to his football people. He may have final say, but he consults them. It may seem like an one man operation on the surface, but many behind the scenes have Jerry's ear. The release of owens should've been an good indication of that. Jerry didn't just wake up thursday morning and say im going to cut owens, many were consulted that brought jerry to that conclusion. I expect our draft to be very good even without a first rounder.

How dare you actually make sense. The gall.

 

[igtmfo]

Another good/lucky move we made last year: you guys remember the draft room cam catching Stephen getting the call from Steelers in the fourth round, wanting to trade us their 3 pick in 2009 for our 4 pick last year. But the Browns had already offered us the same deal. Luckily the decision was quickly made to accept the Browns' 3 pick rather than the Steelers' 3 pick.

BTW the 4 pick we forfeited last year was said to be OT Anthony Collins if we had picked. He went to Bengals, and accd. to Marvin Lewis there, exceeded expectations ... he started some games at the end of the year for them. Well at least our scouts had the right idea if we had stayed put and taken Collins.