Does Price project more as a 1 or 3 tech in Kiffin's system?

[TheRomoSexual]

I'm hoping him and Crawford step up to provide much needed youthful DT depth.

 

[FiveRings]

I'd say hes more of a one gap penetrating 1 tech guy. If he can solidify that position, then Hatcher and Rat can rotate in the 3 tech with Lissemore backing the 1

 

[TheRomoSexual]

I'd say hes more of a one gap penetrating 1 tech guy. If he can solidify that position, then Hatcher and Rat can rotate in the 3 tech with Lissemore backing the 1

Are you projecting Crawford at end?

 

[FiveRings]

Are you projecting Crawford at end?

No, now that hes put on weight he can be a good D Tackle IMO

 

[InmanRoshi]

He played mostly 1 tech in Raheem's Tampa defense in 2011 shaded over the center's shoulder.

 

[xwalker]

Does Price project more as a 1 or 3 tech in Kiffin's system?

He played mostly 1-tech in Tampa in 2011 but looked unstoppable in a few snaps that I saw him at 3-tech.

If you have the Season Pass (All-22) from NFL.com, check him out in 2011 playing for Tampa. He is #92.

Keep in mind that he was overweight and out of shape due to the radical offseason surgery and couldn't even run until very near the beginning of the season.

If this guy has his head on straight, I have no doubt that he is a legit NFL starter.

 

[speedkilz88]

He looks like he could play either. I believe the Bucs drafted him to play the 3 but ended up playing him a lot at the 1 as xwalker posted.

 

[JeffInDC]

He looks like he could play either. I believe the Bucs drafted him to play the 3 but ended up playing him a lot at the 1 as xwalker posted.

Actually, I think when they drafted him, Morris had every intention of making him the 1T because they had also drafted McCoy in Round 1 to be the 3T. Had he been healthy and focused, that would've been one hell of a tandem for years to come - based on what they both demonstrated in college. And, seeing as McCoy made the Pro Bowl this year, they may have been on to something.

 

[xwalker]

FYI - Price started 14 games in 2011 after having radical offseason surgery.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

he's a one tech and we've got plenty of those. Ratliff, Lissimore, Price and if you look at 2014, maybe Brent.

at the three tech, we've got one guy in Hatcher and that's it. If he's injured, we can slide Ratliff to the 3 and start Lissimore or Price, but with Ratliff's injury history, that's not a great plan.

 

[speedkilz88]

he's a one tech and we've got plenty of those. Ratliff, Lissimore, Price and if you look at 2014, maybe Brent.

at the three tech, we've got one guy in Hatcher and that's it. If he's injured, we can slide Ratliff to the 3 and start Lissimore or Price, but with Ratliff's injury history, that's not a great plan.

Cowboys have said that Ratliff and Hatcher are battling for the 3 spot. At least right now that is what they are saying.

 

[JeffInDC]

Cowboys have said that Ratliff and Hatcher are battling for the 3 spot. At least right now that is what they are saying.

I truly hope that is accurate. Why? Because, that tells me that we will be rotating the middle of the line quite often during games to keep people fresh - and, more importantly - therer will NOT be much of a drop off in terms of talent.

 

[Echo9]

I truly hope that is accurate. Why? Because, that tells me that we will be rotating the middle of the line quite often during games to keep people fresh - and, more importantly - therer will NOT be much of a drop off in terms of talent.

I agree that idea of of Ratliff and Hatcher splitting time would be a good idea. In all honesty, I don't really have a good feel for what Hatcher's best fit is in this defense, but I firmly believe that Ratliff is a natural 3. IMO Ratliff have been playing his entire carrer somewhat out of position. Now he has the opportunity to play in a defense that aligns perfectly with his skills.

Unfortunately, he's on the older side so I can't expect him to be dominant all the time. That's where a rotation with Hatcher helps. As an aside, it's been stated numerous times (Lunch Break/Talkin Cowboys) that Hatcher prefers to come off the bench, so he's a better player if his snaps are limited. If Hatcher can play the 3 tech well, it works out nicely all the way around.

Now we just need figure out who will rotate with Lissemore at the 1. I tend to think Crawford will be getting some time at SDE, but that's mainly because we don't really have anyone else to spell Spencer, unless they think Albright can do it. But if they thought that, I figure we'd know he was in the running there. We were told about Wilber moving to back up Ware after all.

Price is a wild card. No idea what he'll do, if anything. I'm hoping for nice surprise there. He has the potential to be our starter at the 1 tech and make a difference. There's an equal chance he doesn't even get past the first round of cuts. Going into camp, there's still a big fat question mark at the 1 tech.

 

[InmanRoshi]

There isn't that much "question" with Price to me. It's all right there on the film. He's a starting caliber NFL 1 tech. I don't know why everyone puts so much weight into what Shariff Floyd does against the Vanderbuilt Commodores, but quickly dismisses what Brian Price does against the Atlanta Falcons.

I also don't think there is much question what Hatcher does. He plays 3 tech. He's played 3 tech in nickel situations the last two years, and been one of the league's better players at it. He just doesn't need to be doing it at 60 snaps a game, if you want him at his most effective.

 

[speedkilz88]

Hatcher doesn't prefer to come off the bench. What they have been saying is Hatcher is better coming off the bench. That he isn't a starting caliber player. Hatcher has hinted that this is his final season with the Cowboys on twitter. He may assume that he will be backing up Rat and that he needs to move on after the season is over.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Hatcher doesn't prefer to come off the bench. What they have been saying is Hatcher is better coming off the bench. That he isn't a starting caliber player. Hatcher has hinted that this is his final season with the Cowboys on twitter. He may assume that he will be backing up Rat and that he needs to move on after the season is over.

Which would be a classic case of the word "starter" being way over-valued over total snaps played. . I'm expecting Hatcher and Ratliff pairing up on subpackages inside. Combine that with being in the base rotation he's probably looking at 70% of the team's total defensive snaps .

 

[Galian Beast]

Which would be a classic case of the word "starter" being way over-valued over total snaps played. . I'm expecting Hatcher and Ratliff pairing up on subpackages inside. Combine that with being in the base rotation he's probably looking at 70% of the team's total defensive snaps .

And there we have it folks... "reason and deduction" finally...

 

[Echo9]

Hatcher doesn't prefer to come off the bench. What they have been saying is Hatcher is better coming off the bench. That he isn't a starting caliber player. Hatcher has hinted that this is his final season with the Cowboys on twitter. He may assume that he will be backing up Rat and that he needs to move on after the season is over.

I don't have a link since it's just audio from some of the podcasts, but someone over there did actually say that Hatcher preferred to come off the bench. They treated it as a direct quote from Hatcher. This stuck out in my mind since acceptance of a non-starting role is surprising. FWIW, It wasn't a very recent podcast, but it was said at least one time.

At this stage in his career, he's not going to be an automatic starter anywhere. His expectation that he'll be moving on could have nothing to do with him starting someplace. With the way rotation works, starting doesn't matter all that much anyway.

 

[Echo9]

There isn't that much "question" with Price to me. It's all right there on the film. He's a starting caliber NFL 1 tech. I don't know why everyone puts so much weight into what Shariff Floyd does against the Vanderbuilt Commodores, but quickly dismisses what Brian Price does against the Atlanta Falcons.

I also don't think there is much question what Hatcher does. He plays 3 tech. He's played 3 tech in nickel situations the last two years, and been one of the league's better players at it. He just doesn't need to be doing it at 60 snaps a game, if you want him at his most effective.

The question is whether he can be the player he was in 2011. Despite his play for the Bucs, he was let go. Then he didn't make it out of training camp for the Bears.

At first I thought it was a great sign that Marinell (who cut him) was here and signed off on getting Price, then I realized (I was told by someone else to be honest ) that the Price signing was before Marinelli came here. Yeah Marinelli had a pretty nice set of DTs to keep instead of Price, but if he's really starting quality, don't you think Marinelli would have found a place for him?

I've got hopes for him, but it's still a big "question".

As far as Hatcher goes, if he can rotate in at the 3, great. If he's done it the last 3 years, then I'm all for it. I think Ratliff and Hatcher can be a great rotation there.

 

[Galian Beast]

As for Jerry making up a term...

http://www.nfldraftgeek.com/sheldonrichardson.html

http://www.foxsportsdetroit.com/nfl...fensive-ends-in-draft-overrate?blockID=867625