Does this sound crazy?

erod

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What if Dallas dangled the No. 4 pick and traded down 6-8 spots in exchange for a second-round pick. Then, trade both second round picks to jump up back up into the first round.

Let's say they're now drafting at 12 and 20. Ezekiel Elliott and Josh Doctson?

I know, I know. Defense, defense, defense. Go defense the rest of the draft and get busier in free agency right now.

Dez, Doctson, Elliott, Witten, Romo.....that's pretty dadgum serious with that offensive line.

Bosa or Ramsey or Buckner would be good, but TWO high-quality offensive weapons could be had perhaps.
 

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Easier said than done, but it's a good idea. Moving down that far would net the Cowboys a lot more than just a 2nd rounder, too.
 

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Here's the starting defense in your scenario:

LDE: David Irving?
1T: Cedric Thornton
3T: Tyrone Crawford
RDE: Demarcus Lawrence

SAM: Anthony Hitchens
MIKE: Rolando McClain
WILL: Sean Lee

LCB: Brandon Carr? Josh Thomas?
SS: Barry Church
FS; Byron Jones
RCB: Orlando Scandrick


That defense isn't stopping anyone.
 

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Chances are doctson will be there around 34 anyway so why waste a pick trading up?
 

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Here's the starting defense in your scenario:

LDE: David Irving?
1T: Cedric Thornton
3T: Tyrone Crawford
RDE: Demarcus Lawrence

SAM: Anthony Hitchens
MIKE: Rolando McClain
WILL: Sean Lee

LCB: Brandon Carr? Josh Thomas?
SS: Barry Church
FS; Byron Jones
RCB: Orlando Scandrick


That defense isn't stopping anyone.

Hence why I said this would require more aggressiveness in free agency.
 

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Based on what's been written, he'd be a reach at 20.
 

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What if Dallas dangled the No. 4 pick and traded down 6-8 spots in exchange for a second-round pick. Then, trade both second round picks to jump up back up into the first round.

Let's say they're now drafting at 12 and 20. Ezekiel Elliott and Josh Doctson?

I know, I know. Defense, defense, defense. Go defense the rest of the draft and get busier in free agency right now.

Dez, Doctson, Elliott, Witten, Romo.....that's pretty dadgum serious with that offensive line.

Bosa or Ramsey or Buckner would be good, but TWO high-quality offensive weapons could be had perhaps.

Like both of those players at those spots, but, yeah, Defense.

If it came down to it, I'd prefer moving back, getting Zeke and using both 2nd round picks (1 from the trade back) to take players for the defensive front-7 to staying put and taking Bosa. But that only if Ramsay and the QBs are gone. Or swapping with SF to let them take Goff and taking a defender or even Lynch there and adding another top-100ish player in the third, maybe. Personally, I like Goff for us there, but assuming the team doesn't love him.

I know there are only 4-5 unique players in this draft. I just don't see where Bosa is actually one of them. But every way you slice the first three picks up it keeps suggesting to me that it's either Bosa or a QB for us there if we stay put.
 

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I'm not sure about the players, but the two trade to land 2 #1s is viable. Pretty sure would get more too.
Drop to 12 and get a 2nd and 4th
Combine our early 2nd with the 12th pick in Rd 2 and go all the way up to 16th or so in the 1st.

I know it's dreamland (you have to have willing trade partners...twice) but you could get two really good players.
 

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Here's the starting defense in your scenario:

LDE: David Irving?
1T: Cedric Thornton
3T: Tyrone Crawford
RDE: Demarcus Lawrence

SAM: Anthony Hitchens
MIKE: Rolando McClain
WILL: Sean Lee

LCB: Brandon Carr? Josh Thomas?
SS: Barry Church
FS; Byron Jones
RCB: Orlando Scandrick


That defense isn't stopping anyone.

Either way...a good deal of players listed will likely be starting. Bosa, Ramsey, etc. could be additions that alter a spot or two. But the aforementioned scenario wouldn't be much different than if they went QB in the 1st & RB in the 2nd. But hell, I'm not sure what to favor at this point. Can see the pro's & con's with differing scenario's.

DL = Lawrence, Thornton, Crawford and ? ... potential is there for a decent DL, but they undoubtedly need to add more & Hardy is seemingly done in Dallas

LB's = Lee & McClain should occupy 2 of 3 spots...I stress 'should'

DB's = Scandrick, Jones ... it's likely at least one of Church/Carr is starting...but possible cap savings could make both potential candidates for June 1st cuts in theory, if not practice...though the staff seems to love Church in particular

At least Thornton & Scandrick are upgrades...and I like the upside of Irving.
 

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Like both of those players at those spots, but, yeah, Defense.

If it came down to it, I'd prefer moving back, getting Zeke and using both 2nd round picks (1 from the trade back) to take players for the defensive front-7 to staying put and taking Bosa. But that only if Ramsay and the QBs are gone. Or swapping with SF to let them take Goff and taking a defender or even Lynch there and adding another top-100ish player in the third, maybe. Personally, I like Goff for us there, but assuming the team doesn't love him.

I know there are only 4-5 unique players in this draft. I just don't see where Bosa is actually one of them. But every way you slice the first three picks up it keeps suggesting to me that it's either Bosa or a QB for us there if we stay put.

I think we're underestimating our need for a legitimate receiver. When Dez went down, this was perhaps the worst group of receivers in the NFL.

Agreed on Bosa. I have a Bobby Carpenter kind of feel about him.
 

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I think we're underestimating our need for a legitimate receiver. When Dez went down, this was perhaps the worst group of receivers in the NFL.

Agreed on Bosa. I have a Bobby Carpenter kind of feel about him.

I want a WR, too. And I love Doctson. I just want defense a little bit more. But I'd understand the pick if we made it there.
 

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I think we're underestimating our need for a legitimate receiver. When Dez went down, this was perhaps the worst group of receivers in the NFL.

Agreed on Bosa. I have a Bobby Carpenter kind of feel about him.

I have felt that way all throughout the process so far. I am coming around a bit. I agree, it's looking like Goff or Bosa at # 4. Every draft pundit has Bosa as a top 5 pick, and the # 1 rated DE. Could it be we are wrong on our impression of him ?
God I hope so, cause its looking like they are leaning that way ...
 

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What if Dallas dangled the No. 4 pick and traded down 6-8 spots in exchange for a second-round pick. Then, trade both second round picks to jump up back up into the first round.

Let's say they're now drafting at 12 and 20. Ezekiel Elliott and Josh Doctson?

I know, I know. Defense, defense, defense. Go defense the rest of the draft and get busier in free agency right now.

Dez, Doctson, Elliott, Witten, Romo.....that's pretty dadgum serious with that offensive line.

Bosa or Ramsey or Buckner would be good, but TWO high-quality offensive weapons could be had perhaps.

Crazy? Not quite. Stupid? Certainly.
 
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I think we're underestimating our need for a legitimate receiver. When Dez went down, this was perhaps the worst group of receivers in the NFL.

Agreed on Bosa. I have a Bobby Carpenter kind of feel about him.

Disagree about Bosa. He may not be a super stud but he has a very high floor. He's lived up to his billing throughout HS and college since freshman and has performed every year. Obviously last year he got plenty of attention but it frees up his mates to do the work. He's nothing like Carpenter.
 

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What if Dallas dangled the No. 4 pick and traded down 6-8 spots in exchange for a second-round pick. Then, trade both second round picks to jump up back up into the first round.

Let's say they're now drafting at 12 and 20. Ezekiel Elliott and Josh Doctson?

I know, I know. Defense, defense, defense. Go defense the rest of the draft and get busier in free agency right now.

Dez, Doctson, Elliott, Witten, Romo.....that's pretty dadgum serious with that offensive line.

Bosa or Ramsey or Buckner would be good, but TWO high-quality offensive weapons could be had perhaps.

Think RB 1st round and WR 2nd.

This would be even better, lol....but not as likely. Still the results can be similar and certain with a guy like Fuller, Miller, Thomas or Coleman ect. if they slide to 34th overall after taking Zeke @ 4.
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