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casmith07;3849515 said:
Before he got old and got indifferent to going for walks, we used to not only walk him every day, but once a week we'd take him to the woods and let him off the leash and he would just ruuuun and run. He'd sniff everything, pee on everything, and chase deer. He loved it. He never would get too far ahead, either...he's got "tough guy" syndrome but only to an extent :D he would pretend to be a tough guy on the leash and then if we didn't "lock" the leash (one of those extendo leashes) he would turn around and look as if to say "hold me back! hold me back!" :lmao:

He's a riot.

:)

Mine does the same "Hold me back!" routine.

And ya see, you've stated something here that I mention to dog owners who think that their dog urinates in the house because it's being "spiteful"

Dogs are quite fascinated by urine. They think urine is the Bomb!

So I'm doubting they make deposits of such fascinating stuff out of spite. :)
 

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I have been fortunate to have trained a few dogs of my own.

I take great pride in the training of my dogs. I have spent a lot of time and energy over the years in doing so.

Years ago I got a hold of a book called, "Love, Praise and Reward". It was an awesome book and the author really thought like a dog and taught his readers to think like a dog.

Recently Juke sent me a book by Ian Dunbar that is awesome too.

I am currently training a 10 month old brown schnauzer. I have had him for 6 months.

Juke has been helpful answering a couple of questions that I have had during that time.

Everything is going great and he is learning a ton of stuff.

Like I said, I think I am a pretty good master and a pretty good dog trainer. But all of my training has been a strong one-on-one relationship with my own dog. We are together all of the time that I am home. I work with him constantly.

But I am amazed by guys like Juke that can help other people train their dogs. I can't imagine how difficult that must be. I understand my dog, and we communicate in a dog/master way.

To be able to help with a strange dog that doesn't really know you is pretty amazing. Good job Juke.
 

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I love dogs! It's awesome that you are writing about them!

My mom & dad got 2 Yellow Lab/Golden Retriever mix puppies from a shelter after the heartbreaking loss of their 11 & 12 yo dogs within weeks of each other right around the holidays.

The pups are 14 weeks old and full of energy! It has been so long since they have had puppies! They love everyone and jump up when they see people. I can handle them, but that behavior needs to be curtailed or as they get bigger they could hurt someone! How do you get puppies to stop jumping on people? They are really cute & lovable!
 

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BlueStar3398;3852448 said:
I love dogs! It's awesome that you are writing about them!

My mom & dad got 2 Yellow Lab/Golden Retriever mix puppies from a shelter after the heartbreaking loss of their 11 & 12 yo dogs within weeks of each other right around the holidays.

The pups are 14 weeks old and full of energy! It has been so long since they have had puppies! They love everyone and jump up when they see people. I can handle them, but that behavior needs to be curtailed or as they get bigger they could hurt someone! How do you get puppies to stop jumping on people? They are really cute & lovable!

I lost my 14 yr old best friend about a yr ago. I got another puppy about 6 months after that.

Anyway, I'm sure somebody will have a better way to keep dogs from jumping, but one way is to try to ignore them until they sit first. Then they learn that they don't get love until they stop jumping.

I had a big dog that I got to stop jumping by holding his paws when he jumped on me. He didn't want to stay up but he had to while I held his paws. I kept holding his paws and talking to him each time he jumped on me. He didn't like me holding his paws and he soon learned that each time he jumped he had to "dance" with me which he didn't want to.

I'm sure others will have good suggestions too.
 

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Juke99;3849377 said:
And here ya go..

Dog "Whisperer" my arse...

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NOTE: at 2:50, the dog receives a shock, redirect aggression toward the owner, catches himself before biting and then is so freaked that he sticks his head under the chair.

Great training Cesar. Well done.

Moron. All he is teaching the dog is an association "Every time I this cat, I get hurt" Heaven forbid that dog ever has a chance to get at that cat.

That's the video that made me stop watching him. When I saw the episode I knew something wasn't right. Then I saw him literally kick a dog while walking it. He did that behind the back kick thing he does and it wasn't a tap. He might as well just flat out kicked the dog.


One of these days I'll have to replace both of our dogs (one passed almost 3 yrs ago) and I'm not sure if I want to go through the whole puppy training thing. I still want another boxer. I just love those goofy mutts.
 

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WV Cowboy;3852546 said:
I lost my 14 yr old best friend about a yr ago. I got another puppy about 6 months after that.

Anyway, I'm sure somebody will have a better way to keep dogs from jumping, but one way is to try to ignore them until they sit first. Then they learn that they don't get love until they stop jumping.

I had a big dog that I got to stop jumping by holding his paws when he jumped on me. He didn't want to stay up but he had to while I held his paws. I kept holding his paws and talking to him each time he jumped on me. He didn't like me holding his paws and he soon learned that each time he jumped he had to "dance" with me which he didn't want to.

I'm sure others will have good suggestions too.


There's no better way than your first way. ON THE NOSEY.

I get a lot of calls for this.

The thing that most people do wrong is that if you do something once the dog has already jumped, the dog learns that jumping is ok, so long as it gets down when told. We don't want that. We want the dog to learn, sitting gets good things.

You're original point is much better than your second. Ignore until the exact second the dog's butt hits the floor in a sit and then drop a treat.

Go back out the door and come in again....do the same.

Go back out the door...etc.

With each rep, the dog will be a bit more calm.

Everyone should enter the house the same way until the dog reliably sits.

Just did this Sunday with a Pit...BIG time jumper.

Within 5 reps, the dog was understanding that "sit = reward" and I was getting auto sits.

You can also work on this....get your dog to sit, hold a treat up...if he jumps "cancel" the trip by pulling your hand up, and make an annoying sound. The dog will learn, sitting gets the treat, jumping cancels it. Start with short durations. Hold the treat up, if you get a "sit" for even one second, pay off. Get five solid reps. Then hold the treat up for two seconds, etc.

Great way to teach the dog, four on the floor gets it good stuff.
 

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BlueStar3398;3852448 said:
I love dogs! It's awesome that you are writing about them!

My mom & dad got 2 Yellow Lab/Golden Retriever mix puppies from a shelter after the heartbreaking loss of their 11 & 12 yo dogs within weeks of each other right around the holidays.

The pups are 14 weeks old and full of energy! It has been so long since they have had puppies! They love everyone and jump up when they see people. I can handle them, but that behavior needs to be curtailed or as they get bigger they could hurt someone! How do you get puppies to stop jumping on people? They are really cute & lovable!

See my note below. you can also email me and I'll send you a written protocol that I use for my customers.

MOST important thing now for those pups is to socialize them.

Puppies are pretty much in socialization mode through 16 weeks. At this stage of the game, they should meet lots of kids, men, men in uniforms, other dogs. BUT in controlled settings.

Scoot over to my training site, johnvisconti.com and down load from the "articles and tips" page.."Puppy things to do" list.

Hugely important stuff to do right now or you end up chasing after and trying to counter condition unwanted behaviors out of the dogs.
 

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WV Cowboy;3852431 said:
I have been fortunate to have trained a few dogs of my own.

I take great pride in the training of my dogs. I have spent a lot of time and energy over the years in doing so.

Years ago I got a hold of a book called, "Love, Praise and Reward". It was an awesome book and the author really thought like a dog and taught his readers to think like a dog.

Recently Juke sent me a book by Ian Dunbar that is awesome too.

I am currently training a 10 month old brown schnauzer. I have had him for 6 months.

Juke has been helpful answering a couple of questions that I have had during that time.

Everything is going great and he is learning a ton of stuff.

Like I said, I think I am a pretty good master and a pretty good dog trainer. But all of my training has been a strong one-on-one relationship with my own dog. We are together all of the time that I am home. I work with him constantly.

But I am amazed by guys like Juke that can help other people train their dogs. I can't imagine how difficult that must be. I understand my dog, and we communicate in a dog/master way.

To be able to help with a strange dog that doesn't really know you is pretty amazing. Good job Juke.


great to see things are working out and that you're committed to training. Well done.

I am BEYOND fortunate to be friends with Dr Dunbar and also Jean Donaldson....both are heavy hitters

I've been working at this for years. True passion. My library contains 65 books, 25 DVD's, magazine subscriptions...on and on...

The toughest part of training is...the owners. Always.

Dogs all learn the same way. The science of learning and behavior is great stuff.

The key to ALL dog training is to let the dog think it's training you.

Jumping up? I walk into a home and people are amazed at how quickly the dog will respond. No magic. The dog just learns, "ah, with this guy, if I sit, I get a reward"

I taught my dog to ring a service bell...the kind you'd find to call for a bell hop in a hotel. (there's a video of her doing this on my website). It's a short video. You'll see her ding the bell...get rewarded and then, without my asking her to, she goes back to the bell and dings it again. She thinks she has me trained.

Fine with me.
 

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Yeagermeister;3852748 said:
That's the video that made me stop watching him. When I saw the episode I knew something wasn't right. Then I saw him literally kick a dog while walking it. He did that behind the back kick thing he does and it wasn't a tap. He might as well just flat out kicked the dog.


One of these days I'll have to replace both of our dogs (one passed almost 3 yrs ago) and I'm not sure if I want to go through the whole puppy training thing. I still want another boxer. I just love those goofy mutts.



He's a hack/butcher.

Ya ever see a trained tiger? Exactly how would this "whisperer" train a tiger? "exercise, discipline and affection"?

By kicking the tiger?

My new customers know more about training after one appointment.
 

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Two questions --

One thing about my JRT - he licks a lot...any reason why? The vet said it has nothing to do with his health. Every once in a while he just goes into lick mode.

Also, why do dogs scratch the ground after they go #2? I always though it was funny.
 

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casmith07;3858702 said:
Two questions --

One thing about my JRT - he licks a lot...any reason why? The vet said it has nothing to do with his health. Every once in a while he just goes into lick mode.

Also, why do dogs scratch the ground after they go #2? I always though it was funny.

I think they scratch the ground in an effort to cover it up, .. something to do with covering their scent in the wild.
 
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