Dom Capers stats this decade

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Here are the stats for his defenses this decade.

NFL rank in points, yards

00 Jaguars 16,12
02 Texans 20,16
03 Texans 27,31
04 Texans 15,23
05 Texans 32,31
06 Dolphins 05,04
07 Dolphins 30,23

Average over the last six years he's been a head coach or DC:

25, 23

Just FYI.
 

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But he had one good season in Jacksonville and two good seasons in Pittsburgh nearly 20 years ago!
 

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Capers career does not need me or anyone else to justify it, it speaks for itself b/c he is still coaching, and with very good organizations. His run w/Houston was horrible no question, but I credit primarily that with extremely poor personnel decisions.


Even with the skewed stats above, I still take Capers over Stewart ANY day. And if Wade is canned next season (as many are already predicting), who is in place to take over the D?


In any case, Capers could have done a better job than either Stewart or READ, yes I said Read, this season.

Field position
Field position is one of the canards that Dom Capers used to sell his players when he coached expansion teams at Carolina and Houston, and still preaches as defensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins. So did Bill Cowher, coach of the 2005 champion Pittsburgh Steelers.

In 1996, Capers' second season with the expansion Panthers, Carolina had the league's best average starting position after receiving kickoffs, and its defense had the second best position in the league after kicking off. Those numbers translated to an 8.6-yard differential for every pair of kickoffs; more than a quarter of the time, Panthers' opponents started inside their own 20 following a kickoff, twice the league average.

Multiply that through an entire season, and you get a lot of so-called hidden yardage.

That wasn't the only reason, but clearly it was one of them, that, in their second season in the league, Carolina compiled a 12-4 record and reached the NFC Championship Game. That same year, the New York Jets had the worst field position differential after kickoffs -- minus-5.7 yards. The Jets finished 1-15.

Cowher, a former special teams coach, understands the concept.

"I didn't look at (kickoff return) average," Cowher said. "I just look at starting position. It's an indication of how long a field are you creating when you kick off, and how short a field are you creating when you return it?"

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80358f1f&template=without-video&confirm=true
 

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Chocolate Lab;2580383 said:
Here are the stats for his defenses this decade.

NFL rank in points, yards

00 Jaguars 16,12
02 Texans 20,16
03 Texans 27,31
04 Texans 15,23
05 Texans 32,31
06 Dolphins 05,04
07 Dolphins 30,23

Average over the last six years he's been a head coach or DC:

25, 23


Just FYI.
What does that say for Garrett, who supposedly wants him as the defensive coordinator?
 

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khiladi;2580496 said:
What does that say for Garrett, who supposedly wants him as the defensive coordinator?
Says it's about right considering he handpicked Brad Johnson.
 

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khiladi;2580496 said:
What does that say for Garrett, who supposedly wants him as the defensive coordinator?


What does that say about McDaniels who wanted him as DC for the Broncos, or the Packers who brought him in to interview for the DC position.


Or the Patriots and Belicheck? We can go on and on.
 

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BAT;2580521 said:
What does that say about McDaniels who wanted him as DC for the Broncos, or the Packers who brought him in to interview for the DC position.


Or the Patriots and Belicheck? We can go on and on.
McDainels had the chance to hire him and hired Mike Nolan instead. Belichick had him as a secondary coach.
 

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theogt;2580477 said:
That's some of the silliest logic I've ever seen. Because he has a job, he deserves the job?


LOL. Are you serious? Obviously you have never been in a position to hire or fire employees. Anyone would obviously want candidates that other more successful companies covet.


He IS deserving of the job b/c his value is more than just numbers YOU pick and choose. There are more qualified evaluators in the league who keep hiring him for a reason. Note that Capers only spent one season as a position coach before getting another coordinator position.


Just b/c you have an agenda (or are completely oblivious) against Capers does not make it universal in HIS industry. Capers is very respected, as well as coveted. He has a job because HE EARNED IT.
 

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BAT;2580521 said:
What does that say about McDaniels who wanted him as DC for the Broncos, or the Packers who brought him in to interview for the DC position.


Or the Patriots and Belicheck? We can go on and on.

Uh, they don't know defense??? But as theogt pointed out, they didn't hire him... His numbers speak to the fact that he is over-rated... There is no disputing that...
 

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BAT;2580553 said:
LOL. Are you serious? Obviously you have never been in a position to hire or fire employees. Anyone would obviously want candidates that other more successful companies covet.


He IS deserving of the job b/c his value is more than just numbers YOU pick and choose. There are more qualified evaluators in the league who keep hiring him for a reason. Note that Capers only spent one season as a position coach before getting another coordinator position.


Just b/c you have an agenda (or are completely oblivious) against Capers does not make it universal in HIS industry. Capers is very respected, as well as coveted. He has a job because HE EARNED IT.
You're just repeating the argument that he deserves a job because he has a job.
 

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theogt;2581095 said:
You're just repeating the argument that he deserves a job because he has a job.

No I'm not. That would be using circular logic, which is your forte.


Save the thread and we will see who is right next year. Capers will be a DC again, and a very good one, for some NFL team.



The stats above speak primarily to his HC skills, which many, myself included, have said is not his strength. Although he has reached the NFC championship game as HC, unlike the last few Dallas HCs. As a DC, Capers has proven himself to be among one of the best.
 

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Honestly I think Capers is an OK coach but he's not spectacular and I think people vastly over-rate him.

Those stats put up there show he's nothing more than average.
 
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