Dom Capers?

[DCDave]

Yes, but if Saban doesn't leave then Capers pretty much has to be given permission from the Dolphins to leave to become D-Coordinator here since it would be considered a "lateral move."



YAKUZA

No, you only need permission for a lateral move as a coach when you're under contract. When your contract is up, you're basically a "free agent."

 

[Haley94]

This defense doesn't look like a 3-4 to me, at least not the way SD, Pittsburgh and Baltimore play it. If Capers comes available you HIRE him the moment he walks off the Dolphins facility.

I'm really not arguing against the 3-4. I just think Parcells ego is too big to bring in a guy like Capers. He doesn't come from his coaching tree. Al Groh or Crennel, yes because he can control them. Parcells is all about control.

 

[rlgiv]

I think Parcells is all about finding people who know what the hell their doing. We have got a lot of experience on our coaching staff, especially the offensive side of the ball. Capers would fit the position like a glove. He has been outstanding as a 3/4 DC in the past and I would be surprised if we don't sign him unless he wants to stay in Miami.

 

[Haley94]

I think Parcells is all about finding people who know what the hell their doing. We have got a lot of experience on our coaching staff, especially the offensive side of the ball. Capers would fit the position like a glove. He has been outstanding as a 3/4 DC in the past and I would be surprised if we don't sign him unless he wants to stay in Miami.

Yeah, if Parcells wanted him, he would have hired him last year.

 

[rlgiv]

We don't know that Parcells didn't want him.

 

[Haley94]

We don't know that Parcells didn't want him.

Yes we do. If Bill wanted him, Jerry would have got it done. Bill has recieved everything he has asked for.

 

[rlgiv]

And you know that how?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes we do. If Bill wanted him, Jerry would have got it done. Bill has recieved everything he has asked for.

Wow so now youre an inside source as to the machinations at VR? We were not in the market for a DC last year bottomline so we did not give Capers a looksie.

Nothing more and nothing less.

 

[Haley94]

And you know that how?

Come on, get real dude. Yeah we lost a bidding war over Capers. Think about it, Capers would have been able to keep his house in Houston and not uproot.

Maybe you should ask yourself this: If Parcells wanted Capers to be his DC, why would Capers turn him down. Remember we have the personnel to run a 3-4, Miami really doesn't yet. Also, Cappers could have positioned himself for the HC job when Parcells left.The dallas job was much more attractive than the Miami job.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Maybe Parcells simply believed in Zimmer....now that we have all realized the guy is a tool...he will come to his senses or JJ will can him as well.

 

[Haley94]

Wow so now youre an inside source as to the machinations at VR? We were not in the market for a DC last year bottomline so we did not give Capers a looksie.

Nothing more and nothing less.

I have no source. Never said I did. Just using logic. Something you guys might try.

 

[DCDave]

Yeah, if Parcells wanted him, he would have hired him last year.

I don't know about that. Last year, I thought Zimmer was doing a pretty good job. 10th in the league in total defense, 12th in scoring defense. But this year, we've gone from 12th to 20th in scoring defense. In our second year in the 3-4, we're giving up significantly more points. And we seem to be getting worse. And its not just the points. Its the inexplicably bad decisions. Take that last touchdown before halftime Sunday. Eight seconds on the clock. If they throw the ball anywhere but the endzone, they run to risk of losing the clock before they can try a field goal. And in that situation, you have Aaron Glenn covering Roy Williams by himself in the endzone? Why on earth would you have anyone, much less your third corner, against one of the best receivers in the league man-to-man with no help in that situation? I don't pretend to have more football knowledge than the coaches doing it professionally, but IMO there's just no excuse in that situation. And that's not just an isolated incident. I think that there have been numerous lapses like that that could lead BP, not previously interested in a guy like Capers, to change his mind. After all, I suspect that if BP was comletely sold on Zimmer, Zimmer's contract would have been extended long ago.

 

[Haley94]

Maybe Parcells simply believed in Zimmer....now that we have all realized the guy is a tool...he will come to his senses or JJ will can him as well.

You all are underestimating the power of EGO.

 

[Oh_Canada]

That''s very possible....but if this is true and Parcells has any coherent thoughts left in that oversized head of his, he will realize he NEEDS someone like Capers to run this very talented defense properly.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Why is everyone assuming Greg Ellis will "be back"?

Was Kevin Smith "back" after his Achilles injury?

At best, he might be a situational player if he makes it back.

You bring up a very good point, and I have been worried about that position also......we can only keep our fingers crossed

 

[Haley94]

I don't know about that. Last year, I thought Zimmer was doing a pretty good job. 10th in the league in total defense, 12th in scoring defense. But this year, we've gone from 12th to 20th in scoring defense. In our second year in the 3-4, we're giving up significantly more points. And we seem to be getting worse. And its not just the points. Its the inexplicably bad decisions. Take that last touchdown before halftime Sunday. Eight seconds on the clock. If they throw the ball anywhere but the endzone, they run to risk of losing the clock before they can try a field goal. And in that situation, you have Aaron Glenn covering Roy Williams by himself in the endzone? Why on earth would you have anyone, much less your third corner, against one of the best receivers in the league man-to-man with no help in that situation? I don't pretend to have more football knowledge than the coaches doing it professionally, but IMO there's just no excuse in that situation. And that's not just an isolated incident. I think that there have been numerous lapses like that that could lead BP, not previously interested in a guy like Capers, to change his mind. After all, I suspect that if BP was comletely sold on Zimmer, Zimmer's contract would have been extended long ago.

It could. It's hard for an old general to look in the mirror.

 

[Sandman52]

I think Ellis stands a decent chance at a return,comparing a OLB to a corner's requirements is unreasonable.
The loss in ability to backpedal doomed Smith.

Well, Takeo Spikes did come back a season from Achilles surgery.

 

[Dough Boy]

Greg Ellis in never coming back and if by slight chance I'm wrong, he'll be a mere shell of his former self. That is a VERY serious injury, especially at his age.

Did you Julian Peterson make the pro bowl this year? If so, he came back from the same injury. I think the injury is worst for CB. CB becasue they lose the ability to accurately backpedal. Also, Ronald Curry WR from Oakland also came back from the injury.

I think Kevin Smith lost his confidence more than anything. He was a very physical CB with a tremendous burst. Ellis has never been a great speed rusher. Ellis is a great technique guy though. He uses his hands very well, and his inside moves are great.

I think Ellis will be fine. He will get his typical 8 sacks next season. No matter the scheme.

 

[es22]

We need a DC with experience in the Zone Blitz. We need to be agressive in the 3-4, not the way Zimmer operates it.

This is my most frustrating thing about our 3-4