Don't blame Wade, thank Jerry

[Doomsdayblitz]

Everyone wants to fire Wade Phillips. Now, while I don't disagree, because I would love to have Chucky in here, Wade is NOT the problem.

The only constant since 1996 is Jerry Jones. He was smart enough to hire the second best head coach in Cowboys' history in Jimmy Johnson...and was sly enough to flim-flam the idiot who traded away half of Minnesota's draft picks. That's it. After that, his arrogance chased Jimmy away, and with him one of the greatest talent evaluators ever.

By '96, all of the great talent Jimmy brought in were getting old, & JJ hasn't had the brains to bring in either enough talent or coaching to get ONE playoff win!

The only way this team will win again is if JJ swallows his pride and hires a Jimmy clone, or kicks the bucket. We all know which case that will be. Well, at least we have a great palace to lose in.

 

[hawklegion]

I wish you were wrong............................

 

[Americas_Team]

I think that his last good decision was to hire jimmy

 

[casmith07]

John Gruden is so garbage.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I've been a critic of Jerrah Jones for a long time, the guy just isn't a good supposed GM.

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

blame wade all you want

but if we had a better offensive coordinator running this offense

we win today and that greenbay game, even beat the giants who philly is torching like everyone else has for weeks

everyone is looking at us differently then

we have 5 close losses and in most our offense was almost non exisiting.

49 points in the last 5 games

no way we lose the 5 games we did with a good coordinator calling the shots

 

[jjktkk]

Everyone wants to fire Wade Phillips. Now, while I don't disagree, because I would love to have Chucky in here, Wade is NOT the problem.

The only constant since 1996 is Jerry Jones. He was smart enough to hire the second best head coach in Cowboys' history in Jimmy Johnson...and was sly enough to flim-flam the idiot who traded away half of Minnesota's draft picks. That's it. After that, his arrogance chased Jimmy away, and with him one of the greatest talent evaluators ever.

By '96, all of the great talent Jimmy brought in were getting old, & JJ hasn't had the brains to bring in either enough talent or coaching to get ONE playoff win!

The only way this team will win again is if JJ swallows his pride and hires a Jimmy clone, or kicks the bucket. We all know which case that will be. Well, at least we have a great palace to lose in.

Been there, done that. Parcells couldn't get it done either with this group. IMO the problem is the leaders on this team: James, Witten, Romo, etc., do not possess enough leadership to push this team from good to elite status.

 

[Americas_Team]

blame wade all you want

but if we had a better offensive coordinator running this offense

we win today and that greenbay game, even beat the giants who philly is torching like everyone else has for weeks

everyone is looking at us differently

we have 5 close losses and in most our offense was almost non exisiting.

no way we lose 5 games with a good coordinator calling the shots

I dont think so, they have not stoped any team when they needed too... Usualy, if we are playing a good team, and they have the ball last and they need a score they get it... you are correct about Garrett and our offense, but Wade is gutless, the guy has no fire, he lost his players a log time ago... He sould have been fired last year after the Philly game.

 

[Eskimo]

I think Gruden is the best of what is left out there. He is still young enough to have the fire in the belly to lead this team to the SB.

I think he would love to work with Romo.

He would likely bring much needed discipline to the offense.

I'll also give him credit for being smart enough to run Keyshawn Johnson out of town.

 

[utrunner07]

I think Gruden is the best of what is left out there. He is still young enough to have the fire in the belly to lead this team to the SB.

I think he would love to work with Romo.

He would likely bring much needed discipline to the offense.

I'll also give him credit for being smart enough to run Keyshawn Johnson out of town.

You do realize there are other coaches besides the 4 or so commonly named on this board right? Gruden is definitely not the best of what is left out there. He may be the best of the big names but not the best of what is left.

 

[Eskimo]

You do realize there are other coaches besides the 4 or so commonly named on this board right? Gruden is definitely not the best of what is left out there. He may be the best of the big names but not the best of what is left.

Jerry won't bring some young no-name into this spot again after the Campo-Gailey years, IMO. Amongst the names commonly bandied about (Shannahan-Holmgren-Cowher being the others) I do think he is the best. He was a young, successful coordinator in his own right before he came to TB and coached Brad Johnson to the SB.

I wouldn't mind if he brought in a young, fire-in-the-belly coordinator from another team. I just don't think he'll go through that route again.

Besdies, a young coordinator is unlikely to have enough pull to request enough power in personnel matters to tame Jerry's demons. At least he doesn't interfere too much with the draft anymore.

 

[Da Hammer]

Jerry = Great Owner.

Jerry = Piece of garbage GM.

again i repeat Jerry should have no input on who the next HC will be, other than getting that contract ready and signed. Hire Holmgreen as the GM and let him run the show. That would be the best possible move that Jerry could make this offseason.

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

I dont think so, they have not stoped any team when they needed too... Usualy, if we are playing a good team, and they have the ball last and they need a score they get it... you are correct about Garrett and our offense, but Wade is gutless, the guy has no fire, he lost his players a log time ago... He sould have been fired last year after the Philly game.

be honest with yourself, you thought 20 points allowed vs sd would be bad prior to the game

no one who had us winning saw us holding sd to 20 points

they expected us to out score a sd team whos defense let the browns score 23 last week

you didnt think holding the sd to 20 would be enough?

if i told you we only give up 10 points on d in den you wouldve said its wasnt enough?

if i told you coming into that greenbay gm they would only score 10 points on our defense. 7 came from a turnover you wouldve said that wasnt enough?

blame wade all you want. yes the d hasnt been perfect but if not for the inconsistency and shaky play of our offense our season is completely different

even in our first meeting with the giants. they had less then 11 points of offense vs our d. they scored off of turnovers. we consistently put our d in bad spots that entire gm. even last week. scored after a barber fumble and a td on special teams

only 17 giving up on defense. that wasnt decent enough?


garrett is holding us back more then anything

 

[utrunner07]

Jerry won't bring some young no-name into this spot again after the Campo-Gailey years, IMO. Amongst the names commonly bandied about (Shannahan-Holmgren-Cowher being the others) I do think he is the best. He was a young, successful coordinator in his own right before he came to TB and coached Brad Johnson to the SB.

I wouldn't mind if he brought in a young, fire-in-the-belly coordinator from another team. I just don't think he'll go through that route again.

Besdies, a young coordinator is unlikely to have enough pull to request enough power in personnel matters to tame Jerry's demons. At least he doesn't interfere too much with the draft anymore.

Perhaps you are right, but Gruden is staying with ESPN, Cowher would not touch us, and I think both Holmgren and Shannahan want GM control...I think we are either going with JG or getting a low name the Jerry can control to whatever extent he wants to control

 

[SultanOfSix]

Wow. This is new. Another blame JJ thread. Yes, I know "it all starts at the top, yadda, yadda..."

Not related to today, but has to be stated because it's not revisionist history: Jimmy wanted to leave. He did everything in his power to do so, because he wanted to live in Miami. So, JJ isn't solely responsible for his termination because it was a mutual thing.

I will blame JJ for hiring Garrett though. Terrible decision. Holding SD who's strength is the offense to one its lowest scoring point totals of the season, despite losing your best player half way through the game, and still losing is the fault of the offense.

7 points against GB. 7 points against Washington. 10 points against SD until too late. There's the pattern.

 

[7footer]

I certainly don't blame Jerry, he has done his best to bring the most talented group of players to Dallas that football has ever seen! The problem lies in the excecution and the discipline. Both of which seem to be lacking on a consistent basis, especially towards the end of the season.

Garrett (first) and Wade (second) deserve the blame for the slump, not Jerry.

 

[utrunner07]

I certainly don't blame Jerry, he has done his best to bring the most talented group of players to Dallas that football has ever seen!

There MAY BE 3 guys AT MOST on this ENTIRE team that would have started on the early/mid 90s teams.

 

[CF74]

blame wade all you want

but if we had a better offensive coordinator running this offense

we win today and that greenbay game, even beat the giants who philly is torching like everyone else has for weeks

everyone is looking at us differently then

we have 5 close losses and in most our offense was almost non exisiting.

49 points in the last 5 games

no way we lose the 5 games we did with a good coordinator calling the shots

 

[7footer]

There MAY BE 3 guys AT MOST on this ENTIRE team that would have started on the early/mid 90s teams.

Surely you jest?

Let's see...

Ware - Definitely

Ratliff - Definitely

Austin - #2 opposite Irvin, Definitely

Witten - Definitely

McBriar - Definitely

Brooking - Definitely

That's more than 3, and there are many other players that would still be debateable.

The only reason Romo, Jenkins, Barber or Jones wouldn't start is because they had legends in their respective positions. We have future legends on this team though right now who's legacy has yet to be fully determined. Stay tuned...

 

[utrunner07]

Surely you jest?

Let's see...

Ware - Definitely

Ratliff - Definitely

Austin - #2 opposite Irvin, Definitely

Witten - Definitely

McBriar - Definitely

Brooking - Definitely

That's more than 3, and there are many other players that would still be debateable.

The only reason Romo, Jenkins, Barber or Jones wouldn't start is because they had legends in their respective positions. We have future legends on this team though right now who's legacy has yet to be fully determined. Stay tuned...

lol, so your defense of your statement that Jerry has brought in "the most talented group of players to Dallas that football has ever seen!" is to name 6 men on the current 53 man roster that would be able to start on another Dallas Team. That is pretty weak.

You said this was the best talent a Dallas Football team has ever had and yet you can only name 6 starters (and one of those being a kicker) that would start on several teams in the past? Yeah, just man up, you made a stupid over the top statement.