Draft 2nd Round Question
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TheSport78
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DE Damontre Moore, S J. Cyprien and RB Giovanni Bernard are the guys I'm targeting.
EDIT: I'll throw Kyle Long in there, but I think he may fall to the early 3rd round.
EDIT: I'll throw Kyle Long in there, but I think he may fall to the early 3rd round.
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TheSport78;5049946 said:
I'm with you if Moore is still on the board at 47 we need to snatch him up and then we'll be able to shop Spencer for maybe a late 2nd or a 3rd round pick. I'm cool with Gio Bernard if we can maybe move down a few spots and gain an extra pick out of it.
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The only guys I would consider in the 2nd are:
Menelik Watson
Terron Armstead
Brian Schwenke
Menelik Watson:
In game footage he appears very quick and athletic. He plays with excellent power. Some people point to him being a raw player as a big negative; however, IMO, I'm surprised how good he played considering that he only played 1 year at Florida State. His upside is very high IMO. One small concern that I have is his agility times at the combine. They were not good, but they don't fit with what you see in game footage. Running those drills does take some practice. It's possible that he was just not familiar with how to execute the drills properly. He appears to have the power and build to also play Guard.
Terron Armstead:
Super athletic, small school player. IMO, he has a lot similarities to Lane Johnson but is just not as far along in his development. He does play with better power than I expected based on his build.
Brian Schwenke:
He puts the ugly into the term Big Uglies because he has an ugly body; however, he is very quick and plays with good power/leverage. He really gets the job done; although it might not look pretty. He is really good at getting off initial blocks an out to the 2nd level. IMO, he plays with much better power and anchor strength that a guy like Justin Pugh.
Menelik Watson
Terron Armstead
Brian Schwenke
Menelik Watson:
In game footage he appears very quick and athletic. He plays with excellent power. Some people point to him being a raw player as a big negative; however, IMO, I'm surprised how good he played considering that he only played 1 year at Florida State. His upside is very high IMO. One small concern that I have is his agility times at the combine. They were not good, but they don't fit with what you see in game footage. Running those drills does take some practice. It's possible that he was just not familiar with how to execute the drills properly. He appears to have the power and build to also play Guard.
Terron Armstead:
Super athletic, small school player. IMO, he has a lot similarities to Lane Johnson but is just not as far along in his development. He does play with better power than I expected based on his build.
Brian Schwenke:
He puts the ugly into the term Big Uglies because he has an ugly body; however, he is very quick and plays with good power/leverage. He really gets the job done; although it might not look pretty. He is really good at getting off initial blocks an out to the 2nd level. IMO, he plays with much better power and anchor strength that a guy like Justin Pugh.
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I wouldn't touch Kyle Long, Justin Pugh or Travis Frederick in the 2nd.
Kyle Long:
Multiple character type issues. True weight appears to be about 304 (he weighed 304 at the Senior Bowl and then 313 a couple of week later at the combine). He has short arms for an OT. At Guard, he is tall 6-6 and underweight for his height. He has good quickness but his anchor strength is not that great.
Justin Pugh:
He has very quick feet; however, he has minimal anchor strength and very short arms (31.5"). IMO, he is almost identical to a player that is already on the Cowboys roster, Kevin Kowalski. I'm hopeful that Kowalski can develop, but the difference is that Kowalski was a UDFA.
Travis Frederick:
His college weight was 338. He appeared slow in game footage; however, I thought that he had room to lose weight and get quicker. Unfortunately, he got down to 312 for the combine and still ran a 5.55 forty. I think that his playing weight will be somewhere between 338 and 312. Any additional weight over the 312 is going to make him that much slower. In the modern pass-happy NFL, slow but powerful OLinemen are not the asset that they were in the past. The Cowboys OL coach Callahan is trying to implement a Zone Blocking Scheme. This scheme requires quicker than average OLinemen.
Kyle Long:
Multiple character type issues. True weight appears to be about 304 (he weighed 304 at the Senior Bowl and then 313 a couple of week later at the combine). He has short arms for an OT. At Guard, he is tall 6-6 and underweight for his height. He has good quickness but his anchor strength is not that great.
Justin Pugh:
He has very quick feet; however, he has minimal anchor strength and very short arms (31.5"). IMO, he is almost identical to a player that is already on the Cowboys roster, Kevin Kowalski. I'm hopeful that Kowalski can develop, but the difference is that Kowalski was a UDFA.
Travis Frederick:
His college weight was 338. He appeared slow in game footage; however, I thought that he had room to lose weight and get quicker. Unfortunately, he got down to 312 for the combine and still ran a 5.55 forty. I think that his playing weight will be somewhere between 338 and 312. Any additional weight over the 312 is going to make him that much slower. In the modern pass-happy NFL, slow but powerful OLinemen are not the asset that they were in the past. The Cowboys OL coach Callahan is trying to implement a Zone Blocking Scheme. This scheme requires quicker than average OLinemen.